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Youngest AI Billionaire Advice from Alexander Wang | Founder of Scale AI | growth world ai
Advice for AI founders
00:09So, you were once a young 19-year-old founder in the AI space. Uh, and you're a whole 25 26 26 >> 26. >> You're all of 26 now. I mean, you're basically a seasoned veteran. Um, but there are more and more founders every day starting AI companies uh right now and you've been through that. what's some advice you would give them about starting a company in the space? [bell] >> Yeah, so in general my um one of my observations from studying you know successful companies is that most of the time um you start companies long you know in an area or in a trend long before they become cool and the thing that allows you to actually win is that by the time the thing becomes cool or interesting you've had this like head
Competition and the founder fantasy
00:54running head start to be able to take advantage of the opportunity. Y >> um so that might cause founders to be slightly dissuaded from starting [laughter] AI companies today. Another way to think about this is like you know for founders starting AI companies today there's just like >> an incredible amount of competition you know I think um there was a uh um a few friends of mine were working on an idea for um AI powered sales. >> Yeah. >> And there are probably literally 50 if not more companies working on AI powered sales. The other thing on the flip side, there's a founder fantasy which is, oh, I'm going to just like hire a bunch of incredible execs. They'll do all the stuff I don't want to do and I'm going
01:35to be able to sit back and like just sort of watch the cogs happen and watch the machine work. And that's also extremely unrealistic because the reason that you are a good founder CEO is because you make very good decisions over and over and over again um over a extended period of time. And to pull yourself out of those decision-m loops is you know would be kind of crazy. That's a pattern we've seen a lot which is I'm going to hire executives. I'm going to step back a bit and then it's like oh realization that like hey some big decisions go wrong and like wait this is the point of me being here. >> Yeah. I think that a lot of startups and a lot of companies are valuable because of an innovation premium. You know,
Schlep blindness and ugly problems
02:11investors believe that that uh founder companies are going to out innovate the market and so your job is to out innovate the market. So >> you better be in the strategic decisions and innovate. Yeah, for sure. Uh it was an article by Paul Graham or an essay by Paul Graham I should say uh called Schle blindness and uh you know I encourage everyone to read it if if you get a chance but um basically the idea was that like you know most people avoid thinking about you know the really sort of just like hairy ugly difficult annoying problems that exist in the world but they're really really important and he actually uses Stripe as as one of the examples in his in his essay but um there's there's these
Hire people who give a damn
02:51problems are everywhere you know the sort of like ugly hairy problems that um that uh everyone knows are important but like aren't sexy to work on. And if you can identify what those problems are, then those generally make really exciting um startup ideas. So I wrote this post many years ago called hire people who give a And it really is pretty simple. You notice I noticed you know when you interview people or when you interact with people you can tell people who are just sort of like phone it in versus people who sort of like they like hang on to their work as like you know it's like it's like the so incredibly monumental and forceful and important to them that they they do great work and it sort of like eats at
03:30them when they don't do great work and when they do great work they're sort of so satisfied with themselves. And so there's sort of this like um the magnitude of of care. And one of the greatest indicators of like a just like how much I enjoyed working with people or like frankly how successful they were at scale was really just this like what is what you know to what degree of their what degree their soul is invested in into um uh into the work that they do. And so I think that that you know if you were to pick one thing that that probably is the sort of like unifier in some way. It's like, you know, um I care a lot, uh I care a lot about every decision we make at the company. Um you know, I still review every hire at the
04:10company. You know, I I we have this process why where I approve or reject literally every single hire at the company. Um uh and and so I care immensely and then this and then like I work with all these people who care immensely and then that enables us to really sort of like we um we feel much more deeply what happens in the business and as a result we sort of like uh you know we'll change course more quickly. We'll learn more quickly. Um we will uh we'll take our work more seriously. We'll adapt more quickly. And I think that that's been quite important to the to the success that we've had. >> Let's go back just a little bit. >> Okay. So you you go to San Francisco by yourself as a 19-year-old kid who had
Building the company at 19
04:48just dropped out of MIT. How do you but you're immature at that point. And so how do you develop leadership skills? And I mean how do you have how do you have the knowhow and make the connections to build a company as a 19-year-old kid? >> Yeah. you. So, um let's see what happened. So, basically early on like um it's about who you get investment from. And so, if you get >> So, it was just you with the competition. There was no team. >> No team. No team. And then, um and so I and I was coding every day. And then I got um we got Y Cominator to invest in us. And then we got um this this investment firm called Excel which was were one of the early investors into Facebook to invest. And so we got um
05:48some some good investors and then they helped me build the team like find people to hire. I also hired you know what actually happened is I mostly hired people I knew from school. >> Really? >> Yeah. So like >> cuz you could trust them. I think more that they could trust me because I think if like at the time if I went to like a a 25year-old engineer in San Francisco and I was like, "Hey, we should we should work together." I had no credibility. Like um I remember I w I like I would get coffee with these people and I would say like, "Yeah, this is what we're working on. It's super cool. You should join us." And then they would all just be like, "Okay, um cool. I guess I'm going to go back to my job
06:33now. [laughter] Um, so early on I had no credibility except for with people I went to uh college with uh who we were just like friends and we liked each other and so I managed to recruit a bunch of them over. Um, and >> they dropped out too. >> Some of them dropped out. Some of them [clears throat] just happened to, you know, were like seniors or whatever, finished school and then joined. Um, it was like a mix. It was a mix. Um, >> [music]