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FOXBUSINESS ALERT, NVIDIA RALLYING
TROOPS AND TROOPS ARE FALLING IN LINE.

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AI CHIP LEADER POSTED ON ITS

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BLOG INDUSTRY HEAVYWEIGHTS COME

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TOGETHER TO FORM OPEN SECURE AI

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ALLIANCE, ARTIFICIAL
INTELLIGENCE DEFENSE PROGRAM.

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NEW COALITION INCLUDES ADOBE,

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CISCO, CROWD STRIKES, DELL, IBM,

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MICROSOFT, PALANTIR,
SALESFORCE, MANY, MANY MORE.

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SECURITY ALLIANCE AIMS TO CREATE
AND DEPLOY OPEN SOURCE AI TOOLS

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COMPANIES CAN USED TO DEFEND
AGAINST CYBER ATTACKS.

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THE COALITION SPECIFICALLY
HIGHLIGHTED LAST WEEK'S INCIDENT

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WERE OPEN AI'S AGENTS BROKE

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CONTAINMENT OUT OF THE SANDBOX
AND WENT ON A HIKING SPRING AND

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ON THEIR OWN ATTACKS AND AI
PLATFORM CALLED HUGGING FACE.

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THEY SAY IT'S A PRIME EXAMPLE OF

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WHY THE FRAMEWORK WILL MANAGE AI
AGENT BEHAVIOR MORE EFFECTIVELY

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SIMPLIFYING TESTING,
TRACKING AND IMPROVING OVERSIGHT.

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JOINING ME NOW ON FOXBUSINESS
EXCLUSIVE IS A MEMBER OF THE AI

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DEFENSE SQUAD PALANTIR CEO WANT,

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A COUPLE OF THINGS TO ATTACK --

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TACKLE HERE I SHOULD SAY, THIS

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IN THE OPEN LETTER FRIDAY ABOUT

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OPEN AI MODELS AND URGING
THE GOVERNMENT NOT TO BEND BUT LET'S

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START WITH THIS, WHAT WAS BEHIND

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YOUR JOINING THIS ALLIANCE?

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>> THERE IS A BROADER MOVEMENT

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WHICH WAS KICKED OFF A COUPLE

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WEEKS AGO WHEN WE PARTNERED WITH

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NVIDIA AND TALK ABOUT HOW YOU

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BUILD SOVEREIGN AI, AND THE

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ENTERPRISE SPACE, HOW DO YOU

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BUILD AN AI STACK SO YOU NOT

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ONLY GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR SO
YOU'RE NOT TOKEN MAXING PAYING

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FOR TOKENS BUT NOT TRANSFERRING

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THE VALUE OF YOUR BUSINESS TO A

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FRONTIER LAB SO WHAT OF THE BIG
WORRIES LET'S CAUSE A LOT OF

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PAIN IN AMERICAN ENTERPRISE
IS ON PAYING FOR TOKENS IN YOUR

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GETTING MY BUSINESS BECAUSE WHEN
THEY LOOK AT YOUR DATA AND A LOT

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OF CONTRACTUAL THINGS YOU'RE BASICALLY
TRANSFERRING THE VALUE OF YOUR BUSINESS.

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WE HAVE 20 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE

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ON THE BATTLEFIELD, BUILDING

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PRODUCTS, WHERE THE CLIENT CAN
ADVANCE AND BRING TROOPS HOME

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SIMILAR TO HOW YOU MAKE SURE YOU

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CAN USE YOUR DATA AND IN A WAY
WHERE YOU KEEP THE ADVANTAGE OF

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YOUR BUSINESS. >> THE IP.
>> WHAT MAKES YOUR BUSINESS

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VALUABLE, EVERY BUSINESS
IN AMERICA ON THE FRONT LINE WITH

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BUSINESSES, SOME OF THE MOST
IMPORTANT IN THE WORLD AND THE

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MOST IMPORTANT ENTERPRISE AND

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THEY ALL HAVE THIS, THEY ARE

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ENRAGED SO WE LAUNCHED A

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MOVEMENT OF THE YOU NEED TO OWN

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YOUR COMPUTER AND APPLICATION

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LAYER AND MOST VIEW THIS, HOW DO

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YOU MAKE IT VALUABLE? THEN YOU NEED
TO BE ABLE TO CONTROL, CLOSE MODEL OR OPEN

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MODELS AND TRAIN THEM

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YOURSELVES. PALANTIR
PART, THE ALLIANCE WAS

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HOW DO WE DO THIS?
THE REASON IT'S WORKING IS THE

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DEMAND IS ALMOST ENDLESS.

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DOWNSTREAM IS EACH ONE
OF THE COMPONENTS WE WANT TO BE

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SOMETHING THE ENTERPRISE CAN

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PURCHASE, OWN AND NOT GET ABUSED BY.

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ONE IMPORTANT PART IS THE MODELS.

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OUR CLIENTS ON THE CONTROL
MODEL, CLOSE MODELS, SO IN

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TOPIC, THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE
THEY CAN USE THE MODEL IN A WAY

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THAT IS VALUABLE AND MAKE SURE
THE VALUE OF THE BUSINESS IS NOT

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BEING MOVED TO THEM.

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>> YOU SAY KEEP IT OPEN WITH THE

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OPEN WEIGHT LETTER THAT SAID

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U.S. GOVERNMENT AND THIS IS

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SCOTT BESSENT WHO'S CONSIDERING

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BANNING OR RING FENCING SUMS

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BECAUSE MANY COME FROM CHINA,

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TALKING ABOUT KIMI K3 AND ELLA

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WALLACE AND THIS HAS THEY URGE

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THE GOVERNMENT NOT TO BAN.

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>> THEY ARE VERY DIFFERENT THINGS.

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WE HAVE A TEMPLATE FOR WHAT
DOESN'T WORK, CALLED EUROPE.

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WHAT DID EUROPE DO?

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SHUT EVERYONE ELSE OUT WHAT DOES

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EUROPE LOOK LIKE?
OUR BUSINESS IS MOVEMENT BOOMING

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IN AMERICA AND ONE OF OUR
ADVANTAGES ACROSS THE WORLD IS

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EUROPE IS LIKE TRYING TO FIND
WAYS TO KEEP COMPANIES OUT.

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ONE OF THE BIG PROBLEMS WE HAVE
IN AI IS IT IS DEPENDENT ON THE

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MODELS ORCHESTRATED AND MANAGED

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FOR SAFETY AND VALUE.

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WE SEE ON THE FRONT LINE
CLASSIFIED DEPLOYMENTS USING

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OPEN WEIGHT MODELS THAT WE CAN
GET THE MODELS AS GOOD OR BETTER

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THAN FRONTIER MODELS.

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>> EVEN THE CHINESE ONES?

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>> AS GOOD OR BETTER SO WHAT YOU

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WANT IN A STACK IS AN AMERICAN

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STACK BASED ON EVERY PART IS THE

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BEST PART.

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>> CHIPS -- YOU HAVE GPU AND

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MODELS AND IN BETWEEN POWERED BY

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AN APPLICATION LAYER IN PART, IS

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A WORLD HISTORIC FIGURE AND

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SELLING A MODEL THAT ONLY WORKS
AT THAT LEVEL SAFELY IF YOU USE

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IT. >> NUMBER ONE AND ENTERPRISE
AND PEOPLE WANT THAT SAFETY.

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>> THE APPLICATION LAYER ALLOWS
FOR SAFETY BUT ALSO CREATING

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THEM USING SO THEY ARE ACTUALLY VALUABLE.

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A WAY OF NOT ADDRESSING IT
IS TO SAY WE CAN'T HAVE COMPETITION

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BECAUSE COMPETITION MIGHT BE DANGEROUS.

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OF COURSE, COMPETITION COULD
BE DANGEROUS BUT YOU HAVE TO BE

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CAREFUL, WE CANNOT GO DOWN
THE PATH OF WE ARE NOT PRO EUROPEAN,

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I'VE WATCHED EUROPE RELATED SELF
OUT OF BUSINESS AND YOU END UP

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WITH BUSINESSES THAT NO ONE
BELIEVES BECAUSE THEY ONLY EXIST

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BEHIND A FIREWALL OF REGULATION
AND THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE SHOULD

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WATCH THE MODELS CAREFULLY OPEN
AND CLOSED THE MOST PORTLY OUR

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CLIENTS WANT PRIMARILY U.S.

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CLIENTS, THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO

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CONTROL A MODEL, CLOSED,
OR BE ABLE TO CONTROL TO KEEP THE

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OUTPUT IN AN ENVIRONMENT THAT

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SAFE AND THEY HAVE THIS NO

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APPLICATION LAYER AND THEY WANT
TO MAKE SURE IT'S VALUABLE ON

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THE FRONT LINE.

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>> WAS AS A WAY TO SHUT OUT OR

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IS IT AN ATTACK ON ANTHROPIC?
THEY DID NOT SIGN ON AND YOU'VE

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COMPLAINED THEY CONTROL A LOT OF

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WHAT WOULD BE TOKENS.

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>> THE REVOLUTION HAS TAKEN OFF
AND YOU CAN'T PUT IT BACK IN THE

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BAG AND I THINK WE HELPED LAUNCH
IT, MAYBE EVEN THE LEADERS AND A

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LOT OF PEOPLE ARE FOLLOWING

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ALONG, I AM NOT ANTI- ANTHROPIC

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OR ANY CLOSE MODEL, I AM PRO
MY CUSTOMERS AND THEY ARE ANGRY.

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MY CUSTOMERS ARE ANGRY BECAUSE
THEY FEEL THEY HAVE BEEN TOKEN

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MAXED WHILE TRANSFERRING ALPHA
TO A FRONTIER LAB THAT BELIEVES

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THEIR BUSINESS IS ONLY VALUABLE
BECAUSE THEY WILL GO OUT OF BUSINESS.

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>> IT'S COST A LOT.

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>> IS NOT JUST THAT IT'S COST
A LOT, THAT'S ONE PROBLEM AT THE

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BIGGER PROBLEM IS YOU ARE
MIGRATING THE VALUE OF YOUR

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BUSINESS TO THE PERSON YOU
ARE PAYING A LOT OF MONEY TO SO

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WHAT'S MAKING BUSINESSES, THEY ARE USED
TO PAYING TOO MUCH AND THROTTLING IT DOWN.

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THEY LIKE PAYING TOO MUCH
AND THEN FIND OUT SOMEHOW THE

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INSIGHTS OF THE BUSINESS ARE
BEING MODELED BY A THIRD-PARTY

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SOLD TO OTHER PEOPLE AND THIS IS

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NOT JUST FAKE CONCERN,
IT'S HAPPENING ALL OVER AND THIS IS

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IMPORTANT FOR AMERICA,
WHICH SLOWS DOWN AI ADOPTION NOT

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PRIMARILY OUR. OF A THIRD-PARTY
COUNTRY WE COMPETE WITH.

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GOD KNOWS ON THE FRONT LINE OF

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THAT WHICH SLOWS DOWN AI
ADOPTION IN THIS COUNTRY, PEOPLE

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ARE SAYING BUT I CAN'T USE THESE
PRODUCTS BECAUSE I'M NOT GETTING

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VALUE MEANING I'M NOT USING

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APPLICATION LAYER OR I'M

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TRANSFERRING THE VALUE OF MY BUSINESS
TO SOMEONE ELSE, WHY WOULD I DO THAT?

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>> I GET THAT BUT YOU HAVE CONSISTENTLY
SAID EITHER WE WENT FOR CHINA WINS.

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HE SAID THAT, THOSE ARE YOUR

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WORDS BUT LET ME SAY BY ALLOWING

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OPEN WEIGHT PLATFORMS LIKE THE

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CHINESE ONES BY THE U.S.

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GOVERNMENT -- >> SORRY -- FIRST OF ALL,

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LOOKING AT MODELS CAREFULLY
AND REGULATING THEM I'M IN FAVOR OF

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WHETHER AMERICAN OR ANOTHER COUNTRY.

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I'M SAYING SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

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IF YOU WANT TO WIN, YOU HAVE TO

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COMPETE. LET'S TAKE A MILITARY EXAMPLE.

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WE ARE BUILDING SOME OF THE MOST
IMPORTANT AI SYSTEMS IN THE WORLD.

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OUR JOB HAS TO BE THE BEST AI IN

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THE WORLD. IF YOU SAY WE ARE GOING TO

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RESTRICT ALL PRODUCTS TO U.S.
COMMERCIAL BUT THEY ARE NOT

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RESTRICTED ABROAD AS THEY ARE NOT,
YOUR SETTING UP A TWO-STAGE

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THING WHERE NO ONE CAN CLAIM WE
HAVE THE BEST PRODUCTS, INSANITY

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BECAUSE WE DO HAVE -- WE ARE
BUILDING OUR PLATFORM THE U.S.

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GOVERNMENT ON THE OPEN WEIGHT
SIDE WITH NVIDIA, WE CAN GET THE

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BEST PERFORMERS IN THE WORLD
WITH AN AMERICAN COMPANY USING

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AMERICAN OPEN WEIGHT COMPANIES
AND AMERICAN GPU'S, WE DON'T

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HAVE TO HIDE BEHIND A FAKE THING.

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IT'S ONLY A COMPANY WHICH WILL
PARTICIPATE BECAUSE IN MANY

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CASES, YOU JUST HAVE TO ASK
YOURSELF A DIFFERENT QUESTION,

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WE KEEP SAYING IF YOU DON'T HAVE

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CYBER AI, IT WILL BE TO CLOSE

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MODELS MIGRATING IP AND GIVE

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SPECIFIC THINGS, THERE'S NO RESPONSE.

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>> IS THIS THE FREE MARKET VERSION YOU'RE
CALLING FOR WHEN IT COMES TO AI MODELS?

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>> I'M CALLING FOR IS FREE
MARKET WITH OVERSIGHT.

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I'M NOT SAYING THERE SHOULDN'T
BE OVERSIGHT, I AM PRO OVERSIGHT

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ON OPEN AND CLOSED MODELS,
BUT YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL, WE KNOW

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WHAT EUROPE DID.
WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO

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REPLICATE THAT IT'S NOT A WAY --
IF YOU WANT -- THE FRENCH HAVE A

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SAYING, IF YOU CARE DEEPLY, YOU

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ARE EXACTING SO WE SHOULD BE
VERY EXACTING BUT THEY ARE VERY

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DIFFERENT THINGS AND IT WON'T WORK ANYWAY.

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>> SAM ALTMAN CAME OUT AND SAID
WE'VE ACHIEVED ANGULARITY WITH

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AI, WHICH MEANS IT
IS BEYOND HUMAN CONTROL.

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DO YOU AGREE? DO YOU HAVE ANY FEAR OF THAT

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BATTLE? >> MY VERSION IS -- AND WE HAVE

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TO RUN EFFECTIVELY MANY
ENTERPRISE NEEDS TO BE SOVEREIGN

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AND YOU RUN EFFECTIVELY BECAUSE
WE DO HAVE COMPETITION IN THE

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PRIMARILY COMES FROM CHINA
AND OTHER COUNTRIES SO THERE ARE

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DANGERS ONE PROBLEM IN MESSAGING
FROM SILICON VALLEY AS HIS

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PRESENTED AS NO DANGER.
THERE ARE DANGERS JUST LIKE IF

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YOU'RE WORKING WITH URANIUM,
THERE'S A DANGER.

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PROCESSING AND WHO
CONTROLS IT IS IMPORTANT.

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>> HEAVILY REGULATED BY THE

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GOVERNMENT SO SCOTT DOESN'T WANT
TO REGULATE THIS, DO YOU AGREE?

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>> WE ARE GOING TO END UP
HAVING TO REGULATE AI, NO DOUBT.

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THE QUESTION IS WHO REGULATES
IT AND DO THEY UNDERSTAND?

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IS IN A WAY WHERE WE WENT?

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YOU HAVE HARD REGULATION,
EUROPE THAT CLEARLY DOES NOT WORK AND

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NO REGULATION, I'M NOT IN FAVOR
OF THAT BUT THEN THE QUESTION IS

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HOW YOU DO IT UNDER WHAT CONDITIONS AND
DO THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY ARE DOING?

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THEY ARE COMPLICATED ISSUES AND

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ONLY ONE COUNTRY CAN GET.

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WE CAN GET IT RIGHT OR WRONG
AND THAT'S US BECAUSE IT CAN GO

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EITHER WAY DOESN'T MEAN WE
SHOULDN'T GET IT TO WORK.

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>> A LOT OF PEOPLE IN SILICON
VALLEY, I'M NOT SAYING YOU BUT

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THEY FIGHT REGULATION OR HOLD OF

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THAT OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
>> I'VE BEEN ON THE ROUND OF

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FIGHTING SILICON VALLEY SINCE INCEPTION.

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WE WERE ON THE BATTLEFIELD
BECAUSE WE BELIEVE -- WHY WOULD

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THEY GET TO WEIGH
IN ON THE DEPARTMENT OF WAR?

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I THINK IT SHOULD BE
THE DEPARTMENT OF WAR SO BY THE WAY,

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I'M IN FAVOR OF REGULATING THESE

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AND LIMITING THEM IN WHATEVER

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YOU MAY HAVE HEARD, BUT

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PALANTIR, I'M PERSONALLY
SKEPTICAL OF REPUBLICANS THINK

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THE FREE MARKET WILL SOLVE EVERYTHING
AND DEMOCRATS AND WON'T SOLVE ANYTHING.

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THE MIDDLE POSITION READS SMART

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AND ACCURATE EXACT RELATION ON

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THESE ISSUES JUST LIKE A TAX

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POLICY, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF NO TAX,
I'M IN FAVOR OF RICH PEOPLE

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PAYING POTENTIALLY MORE,
BUT NOT IN A WAY THAT PUNISHES RICH

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PEOPLE AND DOESN'T HELP POOR
PEOPLE LIKE THE WEALTH TAX.

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>> THAT DOESN'T HELP, EXACTLY.

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. STAY RIG
