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He's unflappable. He didn't
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when the smoke went up. So, Eric,
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By the way, Mayor, I I have to interrupt.

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I'm very interested in Shakespeare
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about you. Okay.
It's entitled Upon the Excellence

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of Mayor Suarez. Please.

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>> Miami's helm he took in hand,

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a city poised 'tween oceans azure deep,

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and future's promise vast throughout the

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land, he sowed where others scarce had

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dared to reap.

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With vision bold as conquistadors of

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old, he brought forth commerce, tech,

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and innovation's art, made Miami shine

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as cities wrought of gold, and placed

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our fair metropolis apart.
It continues. Don't worry.

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>> Okay. Through tempest's
rage and plagues most

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grievous tests,
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adversity's tide, led his citizens with

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courage in his breast, and made our city

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known far and wide. So shall his legacy

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in marble stand,

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the mayor who raised Miami's fortune

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grand, Mayor Suarez. >> [applause]

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>> This is the kind
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you're going to make me tell a story.

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This is completely off script. So, I was

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open the consulate of Morocco.

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Now, usually, as you know, Eric, we
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points, people give us talking points
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reading my talking points lately. So,
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you just give me one or two bullet
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story into it." Well, I go to um
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Morocco, and there's
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Bullet point number one is that there's
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consulate in America for Morocco. Not

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that much to go on, right? So, as I'm
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phone out of my pocket, and I have
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Gemini, of course. I have the Gemini

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>> Know your audience, KYC. So,
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"Pretend you're the mayor of Miami,
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consulate, and you only
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[laughter] one is there's
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>> of Miami, right? [laughter] Fact number
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introducing me, and before I
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>> [clears throat] >> this entire
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People were crying, laughing,

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hugging me. You know our country so

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well, Mr. Mayor. How have you known

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about us so much and so deep? So, yes,

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thank you for that incredible Uh why

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so True story, by the way. And one more
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you'll appreciate. No one has ever done

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an American Business Forum at this scale
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as well. Uh and I >> [applause]

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this all around America, cuz business is
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on the kind of things we're talking
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these models could write.

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of those historic moments in history,
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things like that. It's incredibly
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comments. And of course, it's a it's
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was to bring it from Uruguay. Sergio,
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supersede? I think the most important
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start with luck. I was lucky
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to be born in America.
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about everything except for one thing,
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talent of America is why
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Focus on humans. Focus on their
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development and their curiosity
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forth, and help them with the various
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the humans of America.
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you're a great leader.

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You've been a great
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And you're an incredible coach. And I
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some of the people who
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the coaching habit that you think can
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of the team? So, I wrote a book about So,
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about it. I had a I had
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need a coach." And I said, "I'm a big boy.
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don't need a coach." And he said to me,
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Absolutely.
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Right? Cuz the the answer is, of course,
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Coaches do different things. And so,
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Campbell for free, and became
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individual, but a team.

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a CEO, you manage the team. You don't
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the team dynamics, but fundamentally,
it's a team sport. He was a football

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coach, and a and not a particularly good
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leader. And there's a book,
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if we were to write the book today,
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would be called the Seven Trillion
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Apple and Google. Think about it.

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I think he was a Princeton coach, right?

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>> No. Columbia. Columbia. His winning
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something like that. Yeah. So, but but

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leadership but I now understand that I

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needed coaching, my team needed

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coaching, and the way I manage is I
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watch what's going on, and you try
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are various techniques, like tell
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people who don't talk as much talk more.

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I mean, stuff like that.
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much in coaching, and my coach is probably
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Louis Araujo. I don't know if Louis
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coach right there.
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So, for someone that's starting out
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practice that you think is going
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combination of intelligence, that is,

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ability to do the work, and grit.

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And I would add intelligence, grit,
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sponge for everything, cuz I didn't seem
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nothing. And the internet had
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If I were a 16- or 18-year-old
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would be online all the time just
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and I want to know everything. Mayor,
tell me about yourself. Tell me about

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your family. Tell me what you do.
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>> And I trained myself to to look
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How did you fund this? What was it
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intelligence. I have all sorts of friends
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through the day, right?
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have another idea. Nothing happens with
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that's very clever, and they have
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from curiosity.
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the technology that we're in is so
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it, but there are some things we've lost.
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important for curiosity. So, here's
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teacher. Pain, as as we said. What are
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you've had in your life that you think
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hold myself responsible for not
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had the technology to do what Meta
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fast enough. Right?
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keep pushing, it works. And one of the

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especially if I can be honest, in middle
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in the innovation culture
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Ken Burns is a friend of mine, and I
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We've always been disagreeing,
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jump ball, then you can do it. I've

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do self-criticism, and I've consistently
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stable. Humans can always
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you need to. Figure out a way
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>> you've run a big company. I'm running
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is a city of Miami with 5,000
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The decisions that we make and that
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Yeah. How do you deal with doubt in the
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of those decisions
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a presidency when the president makes
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Obviously not none of us have

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easy decision. The people
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able to handle these things. One way
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problems are ones that you participate in,
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and you make a bet, and you iterate
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fundamentally a genius and then
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constant evolution. Um and you're always
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that didn't work and so forth. One
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who can go bankrupt can be rehired
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favorite entrepreneurs, the first idea
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the third idea didn't work,
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basic principle. Don't tell people
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you. So, I I become very repetitive.

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email anymore, is I'm constantly writing
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where we should do. What do you guys
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more interactive. Um and the and the
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process, but it fundamentally starts
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want to win. Okay, what does that mean?

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months. Right? If you force people to say,
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get a very different answer. So,
here's an example. Uh the cost of AI

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tokens, that is the delivery of queries,
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year. Amazing. >> So, 5 years,
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fifth or sorry, five to the what you
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number. What happens
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sonnet is so cheap, it's just everywhere?
Right. Right? All in praise

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of you, mayor. Of course.
What does that mean? Think backward.

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easy, because everybody has stock
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much harder in what you do.
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were you if I were running running the
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them, repeat, repeat, repeat.

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that same innovation? In software,
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which is I think largely going away,
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Chrome browser or, you know, the Android

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operating system or so forth, and then
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finish it. And I kept thinking,
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every team, engineering team, management
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you can only have 10 people, you can't
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you can have 10 people, but not 11.
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kind of a manageable group,
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they can figure it out, and so forth,
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you're not disciplined about that,
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people, and I mean this in
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They are very nice people. They glue
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you don't need them. Person A can
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between. Yeah. And that glue person
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decision, quickness, small teams,
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My experience in talking about this
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this. And this means I'm a human, and I'm

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breathing, and I'm listening to you.
It does not mean I'm going to do anything.

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unless you implement the things I'm

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Knowledge is not sufficient.
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individuals, and so forth. The great

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business people know when to push those

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and when not to. And that's a judgment.

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So, of course, moving on to AI.

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AI is going to be the most powerful
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It's also potentially going to be the

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most dangerous. Let's watch this clip.

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A new age has begun, one not
written in ink, but in code.

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This innovation, this arrival
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Artificial intelligence, the most

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powerful tool humanity has ever created,

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and perhaps its greatest test. The most

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important thing that's going to happen
in about 500 years, maybe a thousand

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years in human society. Few understand
it better than Eric [music] Schmidt, a

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man who helped shape
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Today, he stands at the frontier
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asking the question
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Can we control what we've created?

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The next revolution isn't
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So, uh that's that's as good
as my sonnet. What happened?

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>> Good job. So, I I'm
going to go a little off

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script, more provocative, I told you.

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So, is this sort of AI
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hopefully the good guys out-programming
the bad guys? Is that what this race

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going to be with more

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power, more compute, more sort of

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programming knowledge? Is that Is
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intelligence that we collaborate with is

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the defining event of our generation, of

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our lifetimes. It will color everything.

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of my friends is dying of ALS. Can you

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imagine the value of a solution to that?

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being. Uh I I can go on and on about the

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tragedies that humans experience that

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these technologies can address.

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arrival of intelligence for every single

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human being, right? Having an assistant
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Einstein in your pocket. Just Just

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imagine all of that. Um these things

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it's very hard to predict what
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intelligence. Remember I said the most
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humans plus the AI.
There are plenty of downsides, right?

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be built in America, on our values, with

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our views. And I feel very,
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I want American I'll use the word

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liberalism in the classic sense.
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freedom, it's distrust of the
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combination of that individualism, the

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frontier um

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belief is really, really important. And

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we're on a revolutionary frontier here.

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internet had been invented in China.

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different your experience would be on it.

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By the way, after that sonnet,
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a little bit provocative. I think
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The acceleration of the
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consciousness? And if they have their own
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to make decisions
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which means if they're smarter than us

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and they're independently prompted
can they figure out more intelligently

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than we can how to prevent us
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writing a movie script that I think
we're going to see a lot of movies

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written about. So, for a bit
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are prompted by humans. The technical
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young people in college will go
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learn how to manipulate these models
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That's not general intelligence.
That's special intelligence. So, if I'm a

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physicist, which I'm not, I'll have
my physics assistant and I'll say I have

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the following idea and the physics
assistant will say, "Well, I I've

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analyzed that. Here's a better idea
for you." But the invocation or the

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initiation occurs from the human.

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The question is when do these systems
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own? The technical term for that is
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They're just naturally learning and
getting smarter. And there are all sorts

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of terrible scenarios. It discovers
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electricity, so it decides to shut down
a hospital to get more electricity for

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itself. Those are the kind
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To me, all of these are red lines.

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The point at which we humans give agency

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to these computers for what
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would be access to weapons. The last
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decisions about nuclear war,
nor do any of us. That kind of thing.

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I have a bunch of questions from that.

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certainly and we see this sort of play

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out geopolitically. The US,
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The question is how do we deal with
people who may have this that are not

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responsible? Number one.
And And I'll And I'll I'll

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give a little bit of hope to humanity.

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This is the second time I
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And we talked about this the first time.

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Just to give humanity a little bit
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been around for a generation. And but

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for the first time that they were
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we've limited this technology
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us. So, I guess my question is we
can potentially have faith in our

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country hopefully to do the right thing
and draw those red lines. How do we deal

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with the nefarious actors
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We're going to have this problem.
Every technology I mean it when Alexander

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Graham Bell invented the telephone, it
didn't occur to him that criminals would

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use it. I remember one day people said,
"Did you know that there are criminals

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on the internet?"
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criminals and they showed up, right?
So, you have to assume the same thing is

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going to happen with with this technology.
And I think the most

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important thing is to put in the the
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And we should be able to create
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to watch for bad actors, at least in the
extreme cases. Um I'm worried about it

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for the following reason.

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In our lifetimes, in the next 5 or 10

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years, every single human on the planet

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who has a mobile phone, cell phone, will

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have access to Einstein, Leonardo da

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Vinci, you know, whomever in some form.

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We've never had that devolution
of power. We've never had that

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decentralized empowerment of humans.

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Now, this group I trust.

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There's an awful lot of wacky countries
and wacky cultures and wacky religions,

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sorry, where I'm not so sure I would
trust their collective action being

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consistent with our values. For sure.

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Right? And I think history will judge us

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based on how we make this how we
handle the humans as this intelligence

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evolution occurs and empowers individuals.

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So, the most famous use case obviously
of AI right now is the large language

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models. I mean, they're the ones that are
being used day in and day out. What

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would you say are probably going to be,
let's say, the top one or two or three

453
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next use cases that you think are going
to change things? And maybe one or two

454
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that people aren't thinking about.

455
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>> Well, so today there are sort of three
things going on. I'll simplify it.

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Language stuff, that's what we were
joking about with large language models.

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There's something called the agentic
revolution where you have agents. An

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agent takes language in, it has memory,
and it produces something. So, it says,

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"I want to do a conference in Miami."

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And it selects the venue. And then it
calls the mayor and the mayor says yes

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cuz the mayor is very pro-business.
And then it calls the security people and

462
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then it calls the contractors and then

463
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it designs the stadium. Each of these is

464
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a work plan, right? Um

465
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over and over again, that's workflow.

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Workflow is what happens in business.

467
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The technical industry believes two
things. First, the scaling laws, which

468
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are the laws of improvement,
are not slowing down.

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The crazy [snorts] investment that you
see is there for a reason. They're

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seeing the kind of gains, this factor
of 10 every year, are continuing to come.

471
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It's pretty amazing. Um and and most
importantly, with that investment comes

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everything else that we talked about.

473
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It's enormously expensive.
And by the way, we're going to run out of

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electricity before we run out of money,
which is a separate discussion. But the

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important thing is you have language.

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The next thing and then you have agents.

477
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And these agents do everything. There's
something called agent orchestration

478
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where you can move the agents around.

479
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And the third one
is essentially reasoning.

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You now have systems that can pass math
tests, chemistry tests, biology tests,

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and so forth at the graduate level
and beat the humans. That's really

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remarkable. And I've watched them
and I have no idea what problems they're

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solving. And you can watch them
go forward, it doesn't work. They

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problem-solve like a human being.

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The union of those is the power.

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That will give us the power to innovate
to address our problems. And the the

487
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thought experiment that I would give
you is let's imagine that one of the

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American companies I obviously have
my own bias, but we'll pick somebody else,

489
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you whoever manages to get
to the point where these

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systems can solve problems that humans

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have never been able to solve.

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What is the value of that company?

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How many trillions of dollars in one

494
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company? Infinity. Right? It's It's
literally I mean, think about all the

495
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problems you face every day and it can
solve every one of them. And you can sit

496
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there and drink coffee and,
you know, sort of watch it.

497
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>> just solves most of them, but that's
okay. That's right. Uh the important

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thing is that we're
on the threshold of being

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able to have truly new innovation.

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And that's the That's the hype.
That's the promise.

501
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If we don't get there, people will be
destroyed just from their own hype. I

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mean, it's extraordinary. I'm going
to ask one last question. It's a follow-up

503
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to the the problem that you presented.

504
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Is SMRs, which is a small scale modular
reactors, is that the solution for that

505
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energy gap that you're talking about?
Or is it going to be something else? We

506
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need more energy in America.

507
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,677
We need every kind of energy. Um we need

508
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uh nuclear. We need fusion. We need

509
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natural gas. We need renewables. We need

510
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,597
wind. We need solar. We need it all.

511
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Why? Because those data centers which

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account for 1% of GDP growth this year

513
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in America need power. If you want that

514
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3% growth that the president love this
have talked about, you need to solve the

515
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energy problem. Eric, thank you so much.

516
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,317
What a provocative conversation.
Thank you. Appreciate it.

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Can I read one thing? Oh, of course.

518
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>> [applause] >> I I I
was thinking a lot about you gave

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me the honor to talk to this incredible

520
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,397
group about the frontier.

521
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Um in 1893, a fellow
named uh Frederick Turner

522
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talked about the frontier. And he said,

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"To the frontier the American intellect
owes its striking characteristics. This

524
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is 150 years ago.
That coarseness and strength combined

525
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,037
with acuteness inquisitiveness, that

526
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practical inventive turn of mind quick

527
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,757
to find expedients, that masterful grasp

528
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of material things, lacking in the

529
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artistic but powerful to affect great

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00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,637
ends, that restless nervous energy, that

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dominant individualism working for good

532
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,597
and evil and with all that buoyancy and

533
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,997
exuberance which comes with freedom,

534
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,637
these are the traits of the frontier.

535
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This is America. This is us. This is why

536
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we're here. This is why you're a great

537
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:14,030
leader. Thank you very much."
That was >> [applause]

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>> That was in 1893. >> 1893.
You know what happened 3 years

539
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:20,677
later? What's that? You know what

540
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,037
happened 3 years later? What? The city

541
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,757
of Miami was established. 1896.

542
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,317
>> There you go. Happy birthday to Miami.

543
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:32,887
Thank you. Okay, mayor.
Good. Thank you, guys.

544
00:31:32,970 --> 00:31:34,990
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