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Even if the technology goes as fast as I

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suspect that it will, we we don't know

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exactly how fast it's going to drive
revenue. We we know it's coming, but

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with the way you buy these data centers,
if you're off by a couple years, that

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can be ruinous. It is just like how I
wrote, you know, in machines of loving

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grace, I said, look, I think we might
get this powerful AI, this country of

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genius in the data center,
that description you gave comes from the

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machines of loving grace. I said, "We'll
get that 2026, maybe 2027." Again, that

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is that is my hunch. Wouldn't be
surprised if I'm off by a year or two,

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but like that is my hunch. Let's say
that happens. That's the starting gun.

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How long does it take to cure all
the diseases, right? That's that's one of

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the ways that like drives a huge amount
of of of of economic value, right? Like

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you cure you cure every disease.
You know there's a question of how much of

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that goes to the pharmaceutical
company to the AI company but there's an

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enormous consumer surplus because
everyone you know assuming we can get

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access for everyone which I care about
greatly we you know we we cure all of

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these diseases how long does it take you

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have to do the biological discovery you

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have to you know go you have to you know
manufacture the new drug you have to you

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know go through the regulatory process
I mean we saw this with like vaccines and

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co right like it there's just this we we

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got the vaccine out to everyone but it
took a year and a half, right? And and

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so my question is, how long does it take

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to get the cure for everything, which AI

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is the genius that can in theory invent

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out to everyone? How long from when
that AI first exists in the lab to when

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diseases have actually been cured for

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everyone, right? In in you know, we've

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had a polio vaccine for 50 years. We're
still trying to eradicate it in the most

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remote corners of Africa. And you know,
the Gates Foundation is trying as hard

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as they can. others are trying
as hard as they can but you know that's

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difficult again I you know I don't
expect most of the economic diffusion to

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be as difficult as that right that's
like the most difficult case but but

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there's a there's a real dilemma here

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and and where I've settled on it is it

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will be it will be it will be faster

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than anything we've seen in the world

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but it still has its limits and and so

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then when we go to buying data centers

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you know you again again the curve I'm

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looking at is okay. We you know we've

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had a 10x a year increase every year. So

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beginning of this year we're looking
at 10 billion in in in annual in you know

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rate of annualized revenue. At the
beginning of the year we have to decide

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how much compute to buy. Um

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and you know it takes a year or two
to actually build out the data centers to

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reserve the data centers. So basically

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I'm saying like in uh 2027 how much

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compute do I get? Well, I could assume

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um uh that uh the uh revenue will

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continue growing 10x a year. So it'll be

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uh one uh one 100 billion at the end of

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2026 and 1 trillion at the end of 2027.

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And so I could buy a trillion dollars.

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Actually, it would be like5 trillion
dollars of compute because it would be a

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trillion dollar a year for for five
years, right? I could buy a trillion

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dollars of compute that starts at the

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end of 2027. And if my if my revenue is

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not a trillion dollars, if it's even

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800 billion, there's no force on earth.

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There's there's no hedge on earth that
could stop me from going bankrupt if I

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if I buy that much compute. And and so
even though a part of my brain wonders

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if it's going to keep growing 10x, I

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can't buy a trillion dollars a year of

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compute in in in in in in in in

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2027. Uh if I'm just off by a year in

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that rate of growth, or if the the growth
rate is 5x a year instead of 10x

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a year, then then you know you go

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bankrupt. Um and and and so you end up

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in a world where you know you're

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supporting hundreds of billions not

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trillions and you accept you accept some

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risk that there's so much demand that

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you can't support the revenue and you
accept still some risk that you know you

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got it wrong and it's still slow and so
when I talked about behaving responsibly

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what I meant actually was not
the absolute amount that that actually was

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not um you know I think it is true we're
spending somewhat less than some of the

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other players. It's actually the other
things like have we been thoughtful

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about it or are we yoloing and saying,
"Oh, we're going to do hundred billion

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here or hundred billion dollars there."

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I kind of get the impression that,
you know, some of the other companies have

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not written down the spreadsheet that
they don't really understand the risk

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they're taking. They're just kind
of doing stuff because it sounds cool. If

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