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POSSIBLY ADD. AND THIS IS WHAT
WE WILL REWARD YOU FOR DOING.

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AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S REFLECTED
IN WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IN THAT S-1.

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>> COMING BACK TO YOU IN A
LITTLE BIT, THE MOMENTS HERE.

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SAM ALTMAN IS LIVE WITH OUR KATE
ROONEY. KATE, TAKE IT AWAY.

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>> HEY SCOTT, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

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AND SAM, IT'S GREAT TO SEE YOU.

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THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING
US HERE AT DEVELOPER DAY.

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>> THANK YOU FOR COMING TO IT.

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>> IT'S NICE TO HAVE AN EVENT
IN SAN FRANCISCO FOR ONCE.

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>> I LOVE SAN FRANCISCO.
>> YEAH. WELL, NO, IT'S BUSY

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EVENT. WE'VE HAD PEOPLE LINING
UP TO GET IN AND THERE'S A LOT

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TO TALK ABOUT. I DO WANT
TO START ON THE AI SAFETY DEBATE.

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THERE IS A TON TO TALK ABOUT,
BUT THE LATEST HEADLINE THAT WE

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HAVE CONFIRMED IS THAT OPENAI
ESSENTIALLY ABANDONED PLANS TO

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LAUNCH A NEW MODEL BECAUSE
OF SAFETY CONCERNS. IF YOU COULD

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WALK US THROUGH THAT, BUT ALSO
WHAT HAS CHANGED? YEAH. WHY DO

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THAT? AND IS THIS DIFFERENT THAN
WHAT YOU'VE DONE IN PREVIOUS MODELS?

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>> AI HAS TO BE BUILT FOR PEOPLE.
IT HAS TO BE GOOD FOR

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PEOPLE. PART OF THAT IS THERE
HAS TO BE SAFE. IT HAS TO BE

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ALWAYS UNDER HUMAN CONTROL.
IT HAS TO DO WHAT PEOPLE WANT. AND

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YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO LIKE,
USE IT AND BE CONFIDENT THAT

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NOTHING BAD IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

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AS THE MODELS HAVE GOTTEN MORE
CAPABLE, THE SAFETY CASES THAT

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WE NOW USE HAVE TO BE HELD TO A
HIGHER AND HIGHER STANDARD, AND

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THE MODELS CAN DO MORE.
SO WE WILL HAVE MANY GREAT NEW MODELS

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TO COME. BUT WHAT WE HAVE
SAID IS THAT ALIGNMENT, SAFETY,

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MONITORING, SECURITY HAVE
TO STAY WAY AHEAD OF CAPABILITIES.

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AND WE HAVE HAD MODELS IN THE
PAST WHERE WE SAY, THIS IS NOT

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QUITE AT THE BAR WE WANT,
AND WE'LL MAKE ANOTHER ONE AND FIX

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IT AND LAUNCH IT LATER. BUT THERE'S
CLEARLY MORE ATTENTION ON THIS NOW.

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>> OKAY. WHAT ABOUT THIS
PARTICULAR MODEL WORRIED YOU OR

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FREAKED YOU OUT TO THE POINT
WHERE YOU WOULDN'T LAUNCH IT?

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>> I WOULDN'T OVERROTATE
ON THIS ONE THING. IT WAS LIKE,

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YOU KNOW, THIS MODEL WAS A
LITTLE BIT WORSE ON A FEW OF

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THE EVALS WE LOOK AT. THIS WAS,
THINK OF THIS IN THE ABUNDANCE

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OF CAUTION CATEGORY. OKAY, THERE'S
NOT A BIG SCARY THING IN THIS CASE.

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>> DOES THIS COUNT AS A PAUSE?

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AND I WONDER WHAT THE PRESIDENT
WOULD SAY IN A MOMENT LIKE THIS

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IF HE IS CONCERNED ABOUT SLOWING DOWN TOO
MUCH. WHAT HAVE YOUR CONVERSATIONS BEEN

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LIKE? AND DO YOU WORRY THAT HE
LOOKS AT A HEADLINE LIKE THIS

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AND SAYS, THIS COUNTS AS A PAUSE HERE?

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>> AGAIN, I WOULD PUT THIS IN
LIKE THE NORMAL COURSE CATEGORY

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OF, YOU KNOW, OFTEN WE BUILD
A MODEL, WE TEST IT, IT DOESN'T

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MEET OUR STANDARDS, WE CHANGE IT,
WE LAUNCH IT LATER. BUT AS

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WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT,
WE ARE PACING OUR PROGRESS, WHICH

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INCLUDES SOMETIMES NOT TRAINING

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THE MODEL, THE. EVERYBODY WANTS
GREAT MODELS. WELL, ACTUALLY

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NOT EVERYBODY. MANY PEOPLE WANT GREAT.
WE WANT GREAT MODELS,

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BUT WE HAVE TO DO THESE
IN A WAY WHERE WE CAN MAKE VERY

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CONFIDENT SAFETY CASES
AND CLAIMS SO THAT PEOPLE DON'T

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HAVE A BUNCH OF ANXIETY AND CAN
RELY ON US FOR THE MODELS WE'RE

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PUTTING OUT INTO THE WORLD.
WE ARE NOW IN A PERIOD WHERE THE

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MODELS ARE GETTING SO GOOD,
SO FAST, THAT WE THINK IT IS

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PRUDENT AND WISE TO MAKE MORE
PROGRESS ON THINGS. WE WERE

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TALKING ABOUT SAFETY ALIGNMENT,
MONITORING SO THAT WE CAN

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CONTINUE WITH PROGRESS.
BUT I THINK THIS IDEA OF PACING IS

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REALLY IMPORTANT. IT'S NOT JUST
LIKE, STOP IT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW,

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WE DON'T WANT SMARTER MODELS.
OF COURSE WE WANT BETTER MODELS.

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IT IS MAKE SURE THAT WE IMPROVE THE AREAS
WE NEED TO CONFIDENTLY AND SAFELY CONTINUE

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WITH PROGRESS. SO I. >> THINK THE PACING
DOESN'T ALWAYS MEAN SLOWING. AND I

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THINK THAT'S SOMETHING
THAT HAS CONFUSED PEOPLE.

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>> YEAH, IT MEANS DOING IT IN A
RESPONSIBLE WAY WITH GUARANTEES

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THAT THE WORLD CAN RELY ON.
>> HUGGING FACE. WE GOT TO TALK

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ABOUT THAT FOR A SECOND.
THAT WAS JUST THIS WATERSHED MOMENT,

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AND IT FEELS LIKE WE'VE HAD
EXAMPLES EVERY OTHER DAY SINCE

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THEN. DID YOU UNDERESTIMATE
AT THE TIME THE DEPTH OF THESE

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ISSUES? I MEAN, THERE'S BEEN REPORTS
THAT THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF THESE. HAS IT

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SURPRISED YOU? >> WE'RE TRYING TO I
THINK PART OF THE WAY WE WANT TO DO THIS

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IS TO REALLY OVERCOMMUNICATE
AND BE EXTREMELY TRANSPARENT.

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SO THERE'S NOTHING ELSE
THAT I'M AWARE OF OR THAT WE'RE

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AWARE OF THAT IS AS SERIOUS
AS THE HUGGING FACE INCIDENT. BUT

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WE ARE TRYING TO PUT OUT EVERY
SMALL OR OTHERWISE CASE WE CAN

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FIND. AND WE REALLY, AS PART
OF OUR MISSION, WANT THE WORLD TO

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UNDERSTAND WHAT'S WHAT THESE
MODELS ARE CAPABLE OF. ONE OF

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THE THINGS THAT'S SPECIAL
ABOUT OPENAI IS WE HAVE A LOT OF

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BREADTH. WE DO CONSUMER,
WE DO ENTERPRISE, WE DO DEVELOPERS.

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AND, AND PEOPLE HAVE VERY DIFFERENT WAYS
OF THINKING ABOUT WHERE WE ARE WITH A