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You never ever wanted to be healed.

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I want to feel healed. I just I
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>> I want to stop uh I want
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I'm not taking [music] care of myself
and I'm I'm eating food that makes me

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sick. It's a self-soothing
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>> What I want you
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of those are the problem.
They are the [music] solution.

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I just want to be happy. Your nature
is freedom. But you're psychologically,

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emotionally telling yourself that you
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nature of freedom, the inclination
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thing is that I'm I'm having this new
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feel bliss and beauty and I write these

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songs and everything makes sense. Most

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human beings in their identity are

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defined by something they're not. I'm

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not good enough. I'm not loved.

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I'm not valued. I feel the one of the

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most pivotal moments that has
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Dude, I'm just I'm cracking up, man.

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When I when I got the email from Cambria,

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I brought my whole family and all the

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kids and I read the email and my

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11-year-old was like, "Dad,
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For real." And that's what we say in
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I'll be like, "Babe, come watch
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crowned. Watch this."
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like, "She got crowned. Get crowned."

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It's like a thing in our house.

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I love it. It sounds like you have a lot
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I'm just touched and flattered that uh
my work has meant that much to you.

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You obviously have such a a spirit.
I know you're not without your challenges

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and we'll get to that today and I I
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everybody does, you know, prior
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feel very fortunate that you know

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such lovely beautiful bright souls like

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yourself have found my work and it's
it's helped in whatever way it has and

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let's see if we can't do a little bit of

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fine-tuning, shall we? Yeah, dude. Yeah.

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the fact that your kids are using the

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expression you got croned.

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croned. This is going to be a one off.

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get croned. Get croned. Get croned.

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We're now going to have to start
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like not got milk, but it's got
[laughter] croned. Got croned.

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Yeah, dude. Amazing. I've gone on so

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many walks with you, bro, just listening
to every podcast I can get my hands on.

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I think I first heard
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Oh, yeah. Okay. >> 90 seconds in,
dude, I've been looking.

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I've been looking. >> [clears
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uh then I find you who's like yeah

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it's not outside of you
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IT'S JUST BEEN AMAZING, DUDE,
for 2 years now just going on walks and

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listening to your podcasts,
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and and I teach a home school group that I
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the homeless and I just and I speak
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your teachings and I've been
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and yeah, so this is
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you. Well, thank you.
You are clearly a very

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beautiful joyous spirit and I think this
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Thank you for the kind words. Thank you
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community, the work that you do with
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your heart. And um I know
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the things that really
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submitted is that you said your motto
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it cuz I know you're very kind in the
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like if nobody loves you, I do
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else loves you, I do. That's my motto.

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maybe just maybe some of that love

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yourself, but let's see how we do.
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sense. Yeah. >> Yeah.
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beautiful millions of people out there
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will touch cuz this video and all
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momentum, which is really touching cuz
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just want to first of all acknowledge
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conversation and share your story cuz
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our lives more than anything is learning
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people's stories, woes, and breakthroughs.

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just watched your video again and the
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you know, background on Phillip and the
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frustrating part of this healing journey

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is being aware that with Anyways.

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old. Well, with me and my couple of of
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car accident. Your brothers passed,
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in the hospital when we went to Oklahoma

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the car accident now, but my mom
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would tell her what happened
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eyes were like blinking a lot. And so I

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don't remember that, but for a time,
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adopted me would say, "Yeah,
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unbuckle ourselves cuz that was part
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kids unbuckled? And you know,
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with our mom, I guess.
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adopted me and my brothers. Mhm. Um

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she's an amazing woman.

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boys and then his wife passed and he

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remarries and he he adopted his new

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wife's daughter who became my sister.

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youngest? No, I was the
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brothers and the other two were
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>> One was at school and one was with
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carry on. So big family. Yeah, big

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family and you know, um

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my mom and my dad did the best they could.
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just My dad's so hard working. He was a

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kindergarten to high school. Mhm. Always

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working. My mom always making sure
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presents and Christmas presents
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it was beautiful and I had a great
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there was an experience with my mom
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my collarbone broke.

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yeah, by my mom. So the physical abuse

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both? Yeah, from my mom, yeah. Okay.

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I remember waking up in the middle
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that was too big for the couch.
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laundry hamper. >> [laughter] >> Good
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which had had its beautiful
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now I can see what was happening.
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uh in her 40s um who was Just
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a a sexual experience Mhm. that I I

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14-year-old. Yeah. She went and

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confessed to our local church
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get the approval of my community, my

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parents, my family. Yeah. Um and I gave

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it everything I had and I and I and I
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the best thing I can do for the world
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them this message. And um it
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hurt my back. And it wasn't even a big
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sweetheart. We have a beautiful family.

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and then I decided to quit my job cuz
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sitting with all these things that had
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music that helps people. Yeah.

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I I really I want to I
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best I can. Um especially my own

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siblings who I know are

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the religion I'm in, I'm limited in how

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be able to help people. Mhm.
And the the addicts that I'm

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I'm wor- sitting with and the
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and and the people in these mental
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with religion isn't what they
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something else and I started to realize
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them with. Mhm. And that's when I
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to help myself really. Like >> Yeah.

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I just it was a really scary thing
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into my own religion that it's not what

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scary scary experience because I was

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worried would my wife see me the same if
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me? Would Yeah.
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was being a member
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sharing. And now I'm
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what I thought it was and I started to

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hit me when I talked to a uh

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a trauma therapist and she said

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cuz I had always carried the guilt of
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was a teenager and she said,
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that's you didn't you weren't able to

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consent." And I was like 31 years old

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when this hit me and I was like

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"Oh my gosh. Like what? What is this?"

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I really thought that I was guilty

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before God that I had
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that's when I pulled my kids out of the
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about all this and I started to

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want to stop uh I want
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Um I can feel where I'm not taking care
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makes me sick and sometimes I'll have

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release or self-soothing like Mhm. five,

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six times in a day. Mhm. And then I have

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all this shame around it and

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and uh I I I want to help
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to heal and I've been listening
to you for years and I that's been the

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frustrating thing for me is I I know
like what happened happened and couldn't

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have happened any other way
because it didn't and Mhm.

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>> this is all just a story and and you

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know, these are all gifts
and every trigger is a gift and yes

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Mhm. and why am I back in the drive-thru

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again and like why Mhm. Uh and I can

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look back on these events in my life
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>> And so it's like like
pick a story, bro. Like

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you know, I uh I I just I
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>> Yeah. and that's
the frustrating thing is that

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I'm I'm having this new awareness and I

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have moments where I feel bliss and

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beauty and I write these songs and

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everything makes sense and it's like, oh

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my god. Like being in that car with my

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mother, what a gift that was. I got to

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be with her when she moved on. Like a lot
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>> I'm trying I've been trying to reframe

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all these things and and make them

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beautiful. Yeah. And um

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but then I then I find myself back

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to using marijuana every day and just
wanting to feel good, just wanting

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Mhm. believing these lies that I know

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are lies, that if I just take some THC

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uh then I can relax. And if I just

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drink the Dr. Pepper uh then
I'll feel better. And almost this

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feeling like if I don't get it, like this

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like I don't know, like this scary
feeling. Yeah. I know that's not

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healthy. And I just want
to be real. I want to be

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honest, and I want to honestly help
people without an agenda. I just want to

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be able to And when I
when I began my music

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project, it's called Love the World.

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That's what my LLC is registered as.
I kept going back between heal the world

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or love the world. Should it be heal
the world? And finally I was like I don't

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even know how to heal myself.
Like >> [laughter]

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>> Yeah, yeah. heal the world. Like, come
on, bro. So I was like, I don't know how

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to heal nobody, but I know how to love.

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I know how to stick with people.
I know how to hold people.

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Yeah. I just for some
reason, I don't know why

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I haven't found that for myself yet.

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Even though intellectually I I've
listened all your stuff, and I've

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the Tony Robbins and Brené Brown, and
I've done ketamine, and I've met with a

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therapist for years,
and the life coaching, and the

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the journaling,
and the mindfulness, and the like Uh

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what am I missing? And I and I hear you
in my head, the only thing that's wrong

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with you is the fact that you think
something's wrong with you. And I cry.

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And that changed me. Yeah.
And then I come back to this

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state again. And then I got Joe Dispenza
in my head, like, yeah, that's the

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familiar pathway. So try something new.

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You know what I mean? Like Peter

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I I just need to get crowned, man.
I was going to say, that's the only thing

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missing. That's the only thing missing
is being crowned, right? Let's see if we

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can't handle that today. Listen,
you are a sweetheart. I love the

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energy. I love the enthusiasm.
You clearly have a boundless capacity to

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love, which is beautiful.
Um just again for the reference for

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people listening, you know, you talked
about Dr. Pepper, you know, sexual

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release, whether that's through porn or

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just self, you know, um satisfaction.

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You had uh junk food, but then

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you have made steps, right? Cuz you were
at one point addicted to opioids. Yes.

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Okay. >> Yeah, and I haven't used those
since December of 2023. Which is Yeah,

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amazing. >> Great. It's Yeah, it's Yeah.

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Yeah, any other substances?

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No, like marijuana is I got a a medical

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marijuana card, and the only other
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when you when you say porn, like she has

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been so sweet, so

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attentive and giving

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to where I I don't watch porn. I have my

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own material of my wife. And that is my

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sexual outlet. It's like my I I call it

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like my cheat code.

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But ironically, compared to most men,

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not cheating cheat code, yeah. Right,

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yeah. And she's so giving, and every
day she's like, "Do you need Do you need

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something?" Like, "Do you Do you"

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And I've just I'm at a place where it's
like, this isn't on her, like Yeah. It's

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like you'll never get enough of what
almost, you know, works, like you say. So,

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that's when I knew I I don't know why
I keep going. But that's Those are the

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substances. Marijuana, Dr. Pepper, food,

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and intimacy with my wife,
or intercourse, not intimacy. Yeah, yeah.

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Okay. Well, I appreciate
the vulnerability. I appreciate

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um your willingness to share your story,
and clearly some of the events that have

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transpired that you shared will have uh

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contributed to this identity that, you

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know, I I I love how well versed you
are with my work and the quotes, and life

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will present you with people and
circumstances to reveal where you're not

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free and what happened happened and all
the things you said, the only thing you

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think is wrong with you is thinking
there's something wrong with you. So,

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these are all great, but knowing
those things clearly doesn't it it's it

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they're accurate but insufficient is the
way that I put it, right? Meaning that

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they're not quite getting to the core
of what's going on for Philip.

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So, hopefully today we can um we can
access that, okay? Yeah, please, dude.

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Yes. Let's [__] go.

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So, [clears throat] a very subtle
distinction that I I feel is

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often um

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first of all, never discussed and

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perhaps never even known is with regards

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to addiction itself. Right? So, if you

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were to look at weed

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Dr. Pepper, junk food, sex, how how

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would you classify those things in the
realm of addiction? That they are the

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what? Uh they are the

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the fix. They're the They're
the addiction. They're the Yeah. So, so

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typically in the realm of addiction
and you know, I've helped people in a a

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myriad of different ways with all sorts
of different substances. Most people

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will say even think I have an alcohol
problem. I have a marijuana problem. I

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have a cocaine problem, right?
So, we tend to look at

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the substances as {quote} {unquote} the
problem. Make sense, right? Like you're

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whether you're articulating it that way
or not, you're looking at, "Okay, I do,

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you know, relieve myself five times a day.
I have three or four Dr. Peppers. I

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smoke weed every day." They they are

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albeit perhaps not declared this way,

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they are perceived as the problem in

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Philip's life. Correct? Yeah, right.

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Now, what happens and why this is a
powerful distinction is when we look at

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something as a problem, we generate

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resistance internally to it.

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Yeah? Right. Make sense? Whenever we

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have resistance to something, what that

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actually does is it exacerbates the

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desire for it.

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Yeah, okay. Do you see that? You

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tracking? Yeah, definitely. Now, the
reason we do that is because our essence

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is freedom. So, think
about it this way. If who we

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are is freedom, meaning we're able to do

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anything, your nature is freedom,

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but you're psychologically, emotionally,

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intellectually telling yourself that you

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can't do something, then because of our

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nature of freedom,
the inclination is towards that.

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Do you Do you follow that energetics?

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>> Oh, okay. So, you're saying

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I've labeled it as bad, so I don't So, I

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shouldn't have it, but by saying I
shouldn't have it, my soul is like, "No,

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I'm free. I can have whatever I want."

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Right. That's the light way
of expressing it. So, now, here's the aha

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moment cuz you're very smart.

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What I want you to realize, Philip,

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whether it's sexual addiction, Dr.

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Pepper, junk food, weed, whatever
substance, even back in the day,

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opioids, listen carefully.
None of those are the

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problem. They are the solution.

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Now, let that land. Everything
that you're partaking in that

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you call an addiction is not
a problem, it's a solution.

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Okay.

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I mean, I trust you. I'm going with you

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on this. Yeah. So, so stay with me.

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So, if everything that you're choosing

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unconsciously, so in the world of like

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ego, we typically are driven by what I

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call unconscious reactions. So, right

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now, those solutions that I'm reframing

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for you are unconscious reactions to the

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ultimate addiction, which
is to the idea of our self.

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Okay. So Philip at the
subconscious level of

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his own personality will have narratives,
pieces of code which we're

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going to reveal today

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that generate the internal experience of

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suffering from which you try to escape.

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Okay. >> The means of escape
is the solution to your suffering.

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Okay. >> Yeah. Now if we
don't deal with the internal

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suffering, then it doesn't matter how

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much you try to avoid the solutions,

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you're being informed by suffering and

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there is no mammal on the planet that

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does not try to escape suffering.

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Right. Okay. So

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the first reframe for you is your your

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unconscious programming
is doing the the right job.

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You follow? Meaning So this is a way of

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acknowledging your conditioning without

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wanting to perpetuate it or condone it,
right? Meaning Oh, Philip at the deepest

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level and we've got all the evidence,
at least I do, as to why your suffering is

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doing what every human being who suffers

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does, which is get away from suffering.

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So in that particular timeline of

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existence, what you're doing is {quote}

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correct for the instinct of a mammal.

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Okay. You follow? Yeah. Okay. So you're

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>> So first of all what what I'm By doing
this, what I want to help you to do is

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to eradicate, mitigate the judgment and

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shame that you have about your chosen

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forms of solution.

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Yeah. Okay. Does that help soften start

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to at least go, "Oh, I'm actually doing

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what any mammal would do when in a

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position of discomfort? I'm finding

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comfort." Okay. Yeah.

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Yeah. So, how does that feel super Yeah,

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how does that feel? So, it feels like

463
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:15,077
I don't I just feel like I have more
compassion for myself. Like So, you're

464
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,397
saying I've just been surviving.

465
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,917
Correct. >> And none
of these things are bad, but

466
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,677
No. because I have this subconscious

467
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:27,037
something that's happening, these are
naturally a solution for that suffering.

468
00:27:27,120 --> 00:27:30,157
Correct. And when you
frame it that way, as you

469
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,957
just said beautifully, and it you know,
it brought up an emotion for you, you

470
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,117
can find compassion for yourself. Oh,

471
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,077
I'm hurt,

472
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,877
suffering, and all I'm doing, albeit at

473
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,397
some degree unconsciously,

474
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,557
is finding some relief.

475
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,597
Yeah. Yeah. With like So, for example,

476
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:54,637
if you're if you're you know,
you've got three kids, you said? Five.

477
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,757
>> You got You Oh, you got five kids.

478
00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,237
>> Yeah. Okay, sorry. So, you cuz I know
you said the two daughters and the son

479
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,397
were saying get cramp. Thank you.

480
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,597
Safety in numbers
in your family, apparently.

481
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:04,797
>> [laughter]

482
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,557
>> All right. So, So, if let's say um you

483
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,997
know, your son had burned his finger,

484
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,957
right? Just whatever. It was holding
trying to make a fire for the family, or

485
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:20,077
was pouring a kettle and grabbed the
piece of metal, and then he went to the

486
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:24,037
cold tap. Would you
Would you shame him for

487
00:28:24,120 --> 00:28:26,077
putting his finger under the cold tap?

488
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:30,317
Oh, no. Of course not. No. Do you see?

489
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:31,797
Yeah.

490
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,717
Isn't that Isn't that interesting?

491
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,757
Oh my gosh. >> [laughter]

492
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:44,277
>> So, that's level number one,
right? So, first of all, huh?

493
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:48,517
No, it just reminded me of Liar Liar
with Jim Carrey when the guy walks in on

494
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,717
the bathroom and he's like, "What are
you doing?" He's like, "I'm kicking my

495
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,557
ass. Do you mind?" >> [laughter]

496
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:59,317
>> Yeah, you're very good at that. Welcome
to Welcome to your humanity, yeah. I've

497
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,197
yet to meet a human being who doesn't
at some level beat the [__] out of

498
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,117
themselves, yeah. [laughter] Yeah.

499
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,797
I'm doing my best to, you know, one mind

500
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,317
at a time liberate souls. But anyway,

501
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,237
um so, first level, oh my gosh, Philip,

502
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:18,117
albeit not necessarily a conscious choice,
which is what we're evolving to

503
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:22,637
versus unconscious reaction, right?
We want to move into conscious creation,

504
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,237
which we will do by the end
of this conversation, you have my word.

505
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:30,077
But right now, we first of all want to see
that within the realm of what I call

506
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,357
this old operating system of humanity

507
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,277
1.0 mindset,

508
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,277
that entire structure of programming is

509
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,237
its sole imperative is survival.

510
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:42,837
Now, why is it based in survival?

511
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,597
Because the underlying fundamental code

512
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,117
is in some sort of inadequacy,

513
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,157
insecurity, or scarcity, meaning we're

514
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,717
living in a confined view of ourself

515
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:59,760
that creates suffering
from which we seek relief.

516
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:03,517
That's just 101 existence. That's
a whole world out there, Philip, just not

517
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:07,637
you, right? Yours manifests as what you
call, you know, addiction. Someone might

518
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,557
be listening to this who's like, "That
dude drinks three to four Dr. Pepper's a

519
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,437
day? [__] A, welcome to my world,
dude." Like, you know, "I'm doing

520
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,957
cocaine every hour." Or, you know,
I mean, there was There was someone who

521
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,477
was drinking 99, you know, Cokes a day

522
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,037
that one of my Ayurveda doctors was

523
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,397
helping, right? So, relatively speaking,

524
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,157
yeah, doesn't really matter. Everybody's
got their own form of addiction because,

525
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,677
you know, my quotes better than anyone,
apparently, and the one I have about

526
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,637
addiction is there's no greater

527
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,237
addiction than the idea of ourself.

528
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:44,037
Mhm. That's your addiction. Yeah. Yeah.

529
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,117
What we want to be able to do today is

530
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,637
we want to reveal what is that idea of

531
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,197
Philip that creates the suffering that

532
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,317
is the precursor to the unconscious draw

533
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,677
naturally to a form of relief which you

534
00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:00,557
found in you know these four sort of

535
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:05,357
predominant choices, right? Right.
And and the other thing that really hurts

536
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,477
me, Peter, which I know you're about to

537
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,477
help me with is my my my 9-year-old

538
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,517
daughter or my 6-year-old daughter.

539
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,197
They will come to me and give me love.

540
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,237
They will kiss me on the cheek.

541
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,477
And they will hug me and I'll just feel

542
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,757
in my body like anger.

543
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,237
And I I I don't like I don't understand

544
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,397
why my sweet little girls are just

545
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:32,237
trying to love their dad and I feel this

546
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:36,237
frustration, this Yeah. anger and I

547
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,357
don't get it. Like what?
>> That's okay. We'll get to it. Don't

548
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:43,477
worry. It's very clear. It'll all
become crystal clear by the time I'm

549
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,987
I'm done with your Dr.
Pepper drinking ass.

550
00:31:46,070 --> 00:31:48,090
>> [laughter]

551
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:53,197
>> Such a wild guy. Three to four cans
a day. Oh my god, you're out of control.

552
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,437
>> [laughter] >> I live
on the wild side, man.

553
00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:00,117
Exactly. I should
introduce you to some people

554
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,597
I've helped. No.
All kidding aside, I don't want to in

555
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,997
any way adjust you you're just so fun
to be with and I don't want to dismiss the

556
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,357
you know the the the struggles
that you've been through

557
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,957
and the the the amount of love that you
still bring to other people even in the

558
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,757
face of your own suffering. It's
it's really inspiring. So Thanks, bro.

559
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,117
>> But now at least you're
starting to see the cascade of how

560
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:25,237
subconscious constraints lead to thoughts,
feelings, and then behaviors

561
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:29,757
um or actions which create outcomes,
right? Yeah. So in this case what we're

562
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,917
doing is I'm reverse engineering
which I do with everybody back to the

563
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,997
subconscious programming that

564
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:40,397
fundamentally got triggered,
not created, but stimulated in childhood,

565
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,957
right? This is the much more esoteric
understanding for the more advanced

566
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,717
listener. Is my assertion is that we are

567
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,557
here to transcend the constraints with

568
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:54,637
which we arrived. Okay,
it's not because your mom died in

569
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,357
a car accident when you're 19 months.

570
00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,277
It's not because you were groomed and then
sexually abused by a woman when you

571
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,917
were 14. Those are

572
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,797
the {quote} {unquote} catalysts

573
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,757
to trigger the underlying constraints

574
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:12,197
with which the soul Philip arrived that

575
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:16,517
he's here to fundamentally
transcend. I know that's

576
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,037
quite a mouthful, but you're familiar
with my work, so hopefully you're

577
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,317
tracking. Oh, yeah, dude. I've been
looking forward to this part for years,

578
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,837
bro. >> [laughter] >> Okay.

579
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,477
We could even argue that this was the

580
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,397
reason you incarnated to be groomed.

581
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,917
Dude, I'm I'm here for it, man.

582
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,237
I [laughter and gasps] know.
I know. Okay, beautiful. So,

583
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,317
let's go back to those events and they're
certainly two or three and it'll

584
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,477
also tie into why your beautiful six
and nine-year-old daughters come and kiss

585
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,477
you on the cheek and yet you feel

586
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,197
internally a form of resistance, which

587
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:50,557
we already we we already spoke to,
right? Right? We've got the the

588
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,277
substances and you've got resistance.

589
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,597
You're In your own words, you said,
"Yeah, you're seeing them as bad,

590
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,517
right?" Yeah. And so now
the frustration or even the

591
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,357
anger that you experience when your two
beautiful daughters come to give you

592
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,957
love will make a lot of sense by the

593
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:10,957
time that you start to see who is Philip
in the way that he has defined himself.

594
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:12,717
Okay? Okay.

595
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:18,317
So now, ironically, it wasn't so much
what I hear in your story. It wasn't so

596
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,517
much, you know,
both events that you have kind

597
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:26,237
of highlighted, the mom dying, which
is of course tragic and and and I I'm

598
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,597
really sorry you went through that,
and certainly the sexual abuse, which I've

599
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,717
helped a a of people go through.

600
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,837
I feel the one of the most pivotal

601
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,397
moments actually that has defined

602
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:40,957
Philip's persona is the when you got

603
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:45,277
um excommunicated shall we say the probate
that you had to experience from the

604
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,837
church. Yeah.

605
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,197
Because what was that like? What when

606
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:56,237
that 14-year-old and it's coming to the
surface now for you, what what did you

607
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,477
decide at that moment
that that meant about you?

608
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:03,997
Um that I was not worthy.

609
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:05,997
Not worthy is a nice way of saying it.

610
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,997
What else?
That I was I was bad. That I was

611
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,197
evil or

612
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:17,237
Yeah. Not good. When I listen
to your video, it gives me

613
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,677
chills cuz for whatever reasons that I'm
blessed with the ability to listen to a

614
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,037
story and immediately hear the underlying
subconscious constraints that

615
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,837
confined people all I could hear

616
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:33,280
was somebody who fundamentally
thinks they're a bad person.

617
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:40,200
What is that like to live
inside of that, Philip?

618
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:47,080
It's okay. Just let let it
all out. Keep feeling it.

619
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,640
It's okay.

620
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,357
That who you are for yourself is bad and

621
00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:00,837
relative to your community your family

622
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:05,117
Yeah, it's it's scary. It feels like I'm
constantly going to get found out. Like

623
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,397
people are constantly
going to like when when they

624
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:12,317
do they won't like me anymore.
They won't love me. It's it's it's

625
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:16,757
exhausting. I keep having
to prove something to people.

626
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:21,480
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

627
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,397
Yeah, I get it. Just stay there for a

628
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,437
minute. Like you've been walking around

629
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,837
your how old now? 36? 30 36, yeah.

630
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,597
Yeah, for over three decades that who

631
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:38,237
you are for yourself
is that you're just bad.

632
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,437
And there could be other words that come
to mind. You're rotten, you're trash,

633
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:45,157
you're dirty is another word that I feel.

634
00:36:45,240 --> 00:36:50,597
Does that resonate? Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah, definitely.

635
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:54,237
I mean, that's just dirty, right? What
you went through that you you know, you

636
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,117
don't belong now in the church. Yeah.

637
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:01,720
>> You're so filthy. Yeah.

638
00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:10,357
What are some of the ways that when you
live inside of that prison that you have

639
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:15,357
learned to compensate? Um to

640
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,997
like especially when I was in the church,
I I studied the scriptures more

641
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,077
than anybody and I memorized scriptures

642
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:26,517
and I volunteered for every class and I
said yes even when I didn't want to.

643
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:31,197
And um and I

644
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:32,757
did the things that nobody else wanted

645
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,677
to do and I volunteered in nursery and I

646
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:42,117
basically just abandoned myself trying
to prove to everybody in church like see

647
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,317
I'm I'm a good guy. >> [laughter]

648
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,837
>> Yeah.
Um All the while reinforcing what?

649
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,837
That I'm bad. Now look
at that. Look at all the

650
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:56,197
energy, the effort, the time, the the
the abandonment as you said, the way you

651
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,517
compromised yourself, the exhaustion you

652
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,437
put yourself through.

653
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,277
Always always reinforcing the very thing

654
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:08,720
that you were desperately
trying to escape.

655
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:19,000
Yeah. It's a lot, I know.

656
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,557
It's okay.

657
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:25,197
Now now you're starting to see

658
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:31,440
the cause of the addiction,
the home of the addiction.

659
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:36,237
Yeah. Yeah.

660
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,357
I just always trying to make

661
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:42,277
people like me and feel safe around me.

662
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,277
And then I say and do things and then

663
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:49,677
like 10 minutes later be like,
"Wait, why did I do that?"

664
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,717
Uh But now but I but you're saying it's

665
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:57,877
because it's because I was trying so
desperately to prove that I wasn't bad.

666
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,437
Yeah. Unconscious reaction.

667
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,677
Meaning it's not something you believe.

668
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:08,237
People talk about limiting beliefs. This
is way below limiting beliefs. This is

669
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,837
far deeper.
You've heard me say it cuz you're

670
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:12,757
familiar with my work. This is the you

671
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:16,157
that you are for yourself.

672
00:39:16,240 --> 00:39:19,957
Philip isn't walking
around believing he's bad.

673
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:26,040
Right. >> Philip, in his own
definition of himself, is bad.

674
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,237
And that's why you can't see it. Yeah.

675
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,637
I mean, look at the way you describe,

676
00:39:35,720 --> 00:39:40,077
defined Dr. Pepper, weed, sex,

677
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:44,317
right, and junk food. How did you
describe them? That you saw them. I

678
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:48,077
said, "You create resistance
cuz you think that they are

679
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:54,240
bad. No surprise in the choice of words.

680
00:39:56,440 --> 00:40:01,637
Oh, and now I can see where I tried
to make sex not bad cuz it's my wife.

681
00:40:01,720 --> 00:40:06,517
Right. That's >> [laughter]

682
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:13,600
>> Okay. We don't see the way the world
is, we see the way that we see the world.

683
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,397
Yeah.

684
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,357
Isn't that powerful? Yeah.

685
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,477
It's not the world that we see, it's the

686
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,797
way that we see.

687
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:25,837
Now, if who you are is bad, so let's

688
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,517
just take one let's just take let's stay

689
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,037
as objective as possible.

690
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,277
In the world of pure physics,

691
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:38,637
is Dr. Pepper bad? No, it's just a drink.

692
00:40:38,720 --> 00:40:40,477
>> No, it's Dr. [__] Pepper. Yeah.

693
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,580
>> [laughter]

694
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:47,797
>> Right? Yeah. Yeah. So, what I want
you to understand is and again, I'm not in

695
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:52,197
any way dismissing the fact that like
I don't you know, I don't promote sodas,

696
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:56,317
you know, this is by no means
a commercial for Dr. Pepper. They'll

697
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,117
suddenly be reaching out to Peter Crone.

698
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:02,597
We'd like to sponsor your podcast.
I'm like, no, I'm not interested.

699
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,707
My friend Philip told me you're bad.

700
00:41:04,790 --> 00:41:06,810
>> [laughter]

701
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:12,677
>> No, but we we understand also in the
realm of physics. Like let's take a more

702
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,757
bigger example, okay, this might be
harder and especially for the listening

703
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:20,797
audience. Is heroin bad?

704
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,437
No, right? >> No, it's heroin. Yeah.

705
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:29,157
Now, I want you to be able to understand
whether we take you know, a slightly

706
00:41:29,240 --> 00:41:31,117
more mild you know, substance like Dr.

707
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,557
Pepper or heroin. I'm not saying that I

708
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:38,637
suggest anybody do them. Everything
in the world of karma, cause and effect,

709
00:41:38,720 --> 00:41:42,437
has impact. Everything. Sure.

710
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,717
>> Right? Yeah. You know, you could
say that the guy who goes to the gym who

711
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,717
used to be an addict, who now goes
to the gym for 3 hours a day and he jogs

712
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:53,517
and he's training for like his fifth
marathon of the year and it's only like

713
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,477
coming up to the end
of April whenever it is. Like

714
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,477
that that might look like, oh,
the dude's really fit. I would still say

715
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,437
that he's being driven by an addiction.

716
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,637
Do you see? Yeah.

717
00:42:04,720 --> 00:42:06,637
It's like Shakespeare said, nothing in

718
00:42:06,720 --> 00:42:08,957
nothing is either good nor bad, but only

719
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,037
thinking makes Is so. Yeah. Yeah.

720
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:16,597
>> Isn't that beautiful? Dude, yeah. In
the realm of physics, you know, somebody

721
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:20,197
like myself with a very sensitive
constitution cuz I would like to declare

722
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,357
that I take immaculate care of myself.

723
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:23,957
If I were to drink two or three Dr.

724
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:28,077
Peppers a day, it would definitely make
a mess, you know, in what you know, it's

725
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:32,317
just my I don't drink soda. I just don't
want to touch it, right? So, but for

726
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:36,757
somebody who's accustomed to it, maybe
their body has adapted to the point that

727
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:40,117
well, it doesn't have
the same degree of impact.

728
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,837
But, the cause and effects are over
the long term, again, like smoking. If

729
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:48,317
someone has got a constitution like
an an ox, they might be able to smoke for

730
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:52,477
decades and be okay. Somebody who's more
sensitive, you know, they might develop,

731
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,317
you know, lung cancer or, you know,
whatever it is that they're going to

732
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,397
develop. So, we want to stay in the

733
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,597
realm of physics, right? Okay. Where

734
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,797
people suffer is in the
realm of perspective.

735
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,797
Right? You're not a victim
of circumstance. You're not a victim of,

736
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:12,917
you know, sex, Dr. Pepper, junk food,
and freaking marijuana. You're a victim

737
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,557
of a perspective that
you're looking through.

738
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:19,717
So, is this why cuz I've noticed that
often times I will turn to these things

739
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:23,397
when things are great.
I'll get out of an assembly with all

740
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,317
these kids or a assisted living facility

741
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,397
and I'm on cloud nine

742
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,637
and then I want, you know, the double

743
00:43:30,720 --> 00:43:33,797
cheeseburger or the vape the THC vape.

744
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:37,557
Is that Are you saying it's because
innately there's a part of me that's

745
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,477
like, oh, no, no, no, no, I'm bad,

746
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,117
remember? Correct. We always have to

747
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,637
think about the thermostat in a house.

748
00:43:45,720 --> 00:43:49,037
If the thermostat
in a house is set to 70°,

749
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:50,997
if it suddenly gets cold outside and it

750
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,917
starts to drop to 68, 67, what will it

751
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:59,157
do? It'll kick in and put it back to the

752
00:43:59,240 --> 00:44:02,797
Correct. Conversely,
you know, if it gets too hot

753
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,477
outside, it will turn
on the AC and bring it back

754
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:10,037
down. So, think
of that in terms of the same

755
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:14,077
for our own identity. The way that we've
defined ourselves at a very deep

756
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,717
subconscious level has to constantly be

757
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:21,837
rectified. I see. Okay.

758
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,397
So, you The good news is you're never
going to get too far off, you know, like

759
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,917
those substances can accumulate
over time, like you know,

760
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,637
somebody will say, "Oh, you know, weed
is a gateway drug, right?" And then you

761
00:44:32,720 --> 00:44:36,637
become like you get into the heavier
stuff as you go. But really the gateway

762
00:44:36,720 --> 00:44:40,117
drug is is this as I declared
this ultimate addiction is the idea of

763
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:44,517
yourself. So, sometimes it becomes
slippery where and I don't want to get

764
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:49,317
too into the linguistics of how these
codes define personality. That's what I

765
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,557
You know, for people who are interested,
that's what I do in the mastermind. I

766
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,757
know you're in freedom membership,
right? But the mastermind is where I

767
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:59,597
help people understand and I'm going
to give like a little insight today.

768
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,877
Most human beings in their identity are

769
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,237
defined by something they're not.

770
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,797
Now, what does that mean? I'm not good

771
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:11,197
enough. I'm not loved.

772
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,317
I'm not valued or worthy, right? Can you

773
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:19,597
see that? Yeah. Yeah. When a human
being's identity is defined by what

774
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,557
we're not, our

775
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,437
our compromise and coping strategy tends

776
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:29,117
to be try and become that thing.

777
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,997
To compensate. >> So,
if I'm If I'm not good enough, I'm

778
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,117
going to as a strategy for survival

779
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,597
become a people pleaser, perfectionist,

780
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,997
work hard as a an attempt to become

781
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,677
enough. Do you see that? Yeah. Yeah.

782
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,917
Make sense, right? It's logical. Right.

783
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,597
With somebody like yourself,
there's a shadow side of what I call these

784
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:56,237
negations of self, which is well,
I am something negative.

785
00:45:56,320 --> 00:46:01,760
So, the antithesis of I'm
not good enough is I am bad.

786
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,957
So, Philip's identity has fallen
into the shadow side, which is why you

787
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:10,637
struggled with it for so long,
or it's manifesting in a way that will

788
00:46:10,720 --> 00:46:15,197
you know, you're 36, but over time that
would lead to physiological issues and

789
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,677
you know, you've got a beautiful
doting wife and lovely kids.

790
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,557
But for most people in the shadow side

791
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,157
of a compromised

792
00:46:24,240 --> 00:46:26,397
constraint of oneself, there tends to be

793
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,557
a lot of destruction, right? Divorce,

794
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:34,997
sickness, disease, loss of jobs,
all the things like that, right? Yeah.

795
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:39,797
Yeah. Do you see? So, now So,

796
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,837
why I'm so happy that you're here today
and you clearly have such a beautiful

797
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:44,397
powerful spirit, which is why you

798
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:48,037
haven't cascaded too far down the I am

799
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,917
bad, you know, route, which a lot of

800
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:55,117
people when they're
in that tend to fulfill on.

801
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:59,037
So, what I want you to understand is first
of all, you're doing a a hell of a

802
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:03,277
job to have kicked the opioids and to
still be making a huge difference for

803
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:07,517
the homeless and the people that you,
you know, touch, which is beautiful. So,

804
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,277
I just want to acknowledge that, okay?

805
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,677
Thanks, bro. Yeah, of course. So,

806
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,957
but now you start to see, oh, if who you

807
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,317
are, not what you believe, but who you

808
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,717
are is that I am bad,

809
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:22,797
you can now see the cascade, right?

810
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,677
Yeah. Yeah.

811
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:30,597
Yeah. Yeah. So, when my my
daughters come to love on me,

812
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:36,557
Yeah. it's it it's me saying,
why are you loving someone bad?

813
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:40,357
Is that what you think? >> make sense.
Yeah. It doesn't resonate.

814
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:44,957
It doesn't align. And so,
your fundamental identity at the deepest

815
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,197
level has to

816
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,157
do something in order to prevail, to

817
00:47:50,240 --> 00:47:52,677
sustain itself. See, the ego of every

818
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,917
human being fundamentally is fictitious.

819
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,317
Right.

820
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,597
Uh so, in for it to prevail, it has to

821
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:04,397
keep finding evidence or create its own

822
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:08,437
to exist. Isn't that nuts?

823
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:13,237
Yeah. It's nuts, man. Yeah,
and you wonder why people out

824
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,917
there are [__] do you know, excuse
my French, but you know, both sick and

825
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,157
tired of being sick and tired, but they
don't believe they have the life they

826
00:48:20,240 --> 00:48:23,957
want and they keep wondering why they
the the self-fulfilling prophecy is

827
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:27,677
leading to all of the discomfort
and suffering that they have. Well, you're

828
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,917
just constantly being right about your

829
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:34,697
own identity. Yeah.

830
00:48:34,780 --> 00:48:38,277
>> [laughter] >> Bonkers,
isn't it? Yeah, I've been so

831
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:42,357
good at it though. Why here?

832
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:46,077
Everybody's so good at being, you know,
wrong about themselves. I mean, that's

833
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:50,957
the human disposition. That is the
insidious nature of what I call the 1.0

834
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:55,197
mindset. That's why I've created
the new operating system for humanity.

835
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:59,237
To break out of the world of limitation,
fear, suffering, disease, and scarcity.

836
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:02,757
That is the world that we have. And then
on top of that, we just have the myriad

837
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:07,717
of forms of coping strategies and
survival techniques to try and mitigate

838
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:09,757
it. All of which do nothing but

839
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:14,757
reinforce it. And you have the mad
world [__] show of planet Earth that we

840
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:16,117
currently have.

841
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,757
So this is why I've had my spine fused

842
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:22,317
after three surgeries is cuz I I keep

843
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:27,157
I've constantly been in an environment
where I've been living in a world where

844
00:49:27,240 --> 00:49:30,477
I'm bad and

845
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,637
and my body's just been carrying that

846
00:49:32,720 --> 00:49:35,157
weight is what you're saying. Just an

847
00:49:35,240 --> 00:49:39,957
absolutely unnecessary burden
from which you can never escape.

848
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:44,787
Right. Yeah.

849
00:49:44,870 --> 00:49:47,557
>> [laughter] >> God.

850
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:49,957
Oh, man, this is why I love you, bro.

851
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:53,357
Dude, I'm telling you, man. Yes. Okay.

852
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,877
Okay. So, that's level one there.
So, now we're getting down to the deeper

853
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:01,357
level. So, where was Philip born? Dude,
I've been waiting for this for years,

854
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:05,877
bro. Okay. [laughter] I was born
in North Carolina, Peter.

855
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,517
Okay. So, Philip,

856
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:12,437
this is your moment. If I cut you open,

857
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,997
am I going to find a physical
manufacturing label, pick your material,

858
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:17,957
wood, metal, plastic, that says on it,

859
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:23,427
Philip, born in North Carolina, he is bad?

860
00:50:23,510 --> 00:50:28,017
>> [laughter] >> No, man. No, you won't.

861
00:50:28,100 --> 00:50:30,120
>> [laughter]

862
00:50:32,030 --> 00:50:35,797
[clears throat] [laughter]

863
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:40,437
>> Oh, man. Go ahead. My bad. Go ahead.
No, no, no. This is >> [laughter]

864
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:44,640
>> My bad. Hey.

865
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,517
Just got to help yourself. This guy.

866
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:51,277
This guy. He's on fuego. >> Okay.
Okay. No, man. No, you won't find

867
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,797
it there. It's not in there.
>> No, it's not part of his physiology,

868
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,877
right? But we if we could read
the genome, we'd understand your body

869
00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:00,117
constitution, your eye color, all the
things, right? Somebody would be able to

870
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:04,957
read that. So, where therefore does
I'm bad exist? Because for over three

871
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:09,077
decades, three and a half, it has
dictated your thoughts, your feelings,

872
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,877
your actions, and now these {quote}
{unquote} addictions that you've been

873
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:15,397
dealing with. So,
where does the I'm bad live?

874
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,957
In my head. In the conversation.

875
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:21,277
Exactly. And where did that

876
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:25,237
predominantly get formulated from?

877
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:30,960
What what would you say
was the most pivotal experience

878
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,557
that you've already referenced
and that I I I repeated for you?

879
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:39,117
>> From the experience when I was when
I was a teenager and experienced sexual

880
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,957
abuse. >> Yeah. That you got
probation and that you were

881
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,077
basically {quote} {unquote} kicked out,

882
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,757
shamed. Yeah. And that young boy

883
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:52,437
then at that moment decided
what that meant about him.

884
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:56,517
Yeah. And that's when I started to do
all the church stuff and got way into

885
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:58,837
everything. Of course, which was the

886
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:00,837
compensation, which is the logical

887
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,557
progression because at the deepest level

888
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:07,157
of who we are, we want to experience our

889
00:52:07,240 --> 00:52:12,197
essence, which is unity. Yeah. Yeah.

890
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,157
So just as I said earlier, your nature

891
00:52:14,240 --> 00:52:16,597
is freedom. When you have resistance to

892
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,957
in this case, you know, substances, your

893
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:23,037
inherent freedom doesn't like not having

894
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:26,237
freedom, so you're drawn to them.

895
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:30,477
If you experience from your essence
unity, but now you experience the

896
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:33,597
feeling of separation or excommunication,

897
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:38,357
what are you going to do?
Try and get back to it. Of course.

898
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:42,437
That's all any human being is doing.
We want to experience our own divine

899
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,677
essence of unity, which we can never

900
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:49,800
access cuz we look through
the illusion of a separate ego.

901
00:52:50,240 --> 00:52:51,717
>> [laughter]

902
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:55,317
>> BRO, I'M TELLING YOU, MAN. YES.

903
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,667
OH, get crowned, Phillip. Gosh.

904
00:52:58,750 --> 00:53:01,917
>> [laughter] >> So it lives
in your head in what form?

905
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,077
You said a conversation language, right?

906
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:08,557
>> yes. In sound. In sound. It's literally
So who you are is a divine essence of

907
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:10,917
pure possibility, limitlessness,

908
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,637
absolutely boundless potential that's

909
00:53:13,720 --> 00:53:17,037
being confined, imprisoned by sound. In

910
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:20,917
this case, sound that who you are is bad.

911
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:24,197
Yeah. So if it is just
sound, if it is just

912
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,357
language, it's literally words saying

913
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,037
that you are bad, is it true that who

914
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:32,357
you are is bad?

915
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,317
No.

916
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:39,997
Not at all. Oh, man. >> [laughter]

917
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:42,637
>> Oh.

918
00:53:42,720 --> 00:53:48,877
Welcome to freedom, my man.
[laughter] Thank you, bro.

919
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,557
Oh. Just sit with it. You have been living

920
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:54,277
in one of the most common, insidious,

921
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:57,957
destructive lies. It's a lie.

922
00:53:58,040 --> 00:53:59,917
And what's so beautiful about you, I've

923
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:05,757
never met anybody on this show
who's so committed to truth.

924
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,957
Thanks. >> why this is going
to be just such a such

925
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:12,597
a joyous transformation for you. Oh.

926
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:17,117
Yeah. You You can't overcome a lie.

927
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,880
Dude.

928
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:25,717
Yeah. That's why I've been doing
so much damn research. Good night.

929
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:29,717
Oh. >> Yeah. And now I don't have to.

930
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:34,800
>> [laughter] >> You can
drink MORE DR. PEPPER.

931
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:40,437
OH GOSH. I highly don't recommend it.

932
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:45,077
But anyway, so But what's
the difference now? If you did

933
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:48,037
So now we want to make We want
to make the collapse. Okay.

934
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:51,837
>> If you were from this position of

935
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,637
realizing that you're not bad, if you

936
00:54:54,720 --> 00:54:57,557
drank Dr. Pepper, what does that mean?

937
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,497
It means I drank Dr. PEPPER. EXACTLY.

938
00:55:00,580 --> 00:55:02,600
[laughter]

939
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:10,517
SO NOW GET THIS ONE. When your six and
nine-year-old daughters come in and kiss

940
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:14,637
you on the cheek, what now
becomes available from this

941
00:55:14,720 --> 00:55:18,680
space? Oh.

942
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:20,877
Oh.

943
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,797
I can just receive their love.

944
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:27,437
Yep. Oh. And I can kiss them back.

945
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:30,877
Yep. Oh.

946
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,477
They just got their dad today.

947
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:39,600
Yeah. Isn't that special?

948
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:44,157
Yeah, I was telling my wife Danny. I
was like, I just know he's going to say go

949
00:55:44,240 --> 00:55:47,157
meet your daughters
and I'm so ready for it.

950
00:55:47,240 --> 00:55:48,917
Yeah.

951
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:50,637
I'd say go meet your daughters, go meet

952
00:55:50,720 --> 00:55:54,477
your wife, go meet your son. Yeah.

953
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:57,797
I would I'm excited to meet myself.
You know, I've been a good guy this whole

954
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,900
time. >> [laughter]

955
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,437
>> You really have.

956
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:06,917
Such a good guy who tried so hard. He's

957
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,597
such a good guy that he tried so hard to

958
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,547
disprove his own lie that HE WAS BAD.

959
00:56:12,630 --> 00:56:14,650
>> [laughter]

960
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:21,120
>> DUDE.

961
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:26,957
OH MY GOSH, PETER. YES.
DUDE, I got crowned, bro.

962
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,037
>> [laughter] >> Yeah.
Going to have to get you a

963
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:33,717
t-shirt. I knew this was coming. We
might have to do that for everyone who's

964
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:38,597
on the show. Yeah. Oh, man.
Yes, I get to meet my

965
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,957
daughters. How special is that?

966
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:48,840
As you, as the boundless, loving,
beautiful soul that you truly are.

967
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:55,400
Really feel it. Your nature is love.

968
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:59,517
What's What's Tell everybody your motto?

969
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:02,877
If no one else loves you, I do.

970
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,797
Now, apply that to yourself. Yeah.

971
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,240
God.

972
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:15,517
You really You really had it. The way
that you saw the world was nobody else

973
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:18,277
loved you. How could they? You're bad.

974
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,357
That's why I would go and visit people

975
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:23,917
in jails and state the state prison.

976
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,037
And I've wanted to do this

977
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:27,677
I've wanted to do this this like one of

978
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:31,037
my secret like dreams and goals is to

979
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,397
create a non-profit

980
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:35,917
where we have health professionals when

981
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:40,717
the politician committed adultery or the
teacher had inappropriate relations with

982
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:44,557
the student or somebody killed somebody
and all of society is looking at this

983
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:48,877
person and judging them.
And every time that happens all I can

984
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:52,437
think to myself is I don't
know but I this is a human

985
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:57,717
being. How much How much were they
hurting that they ruined their life like

986
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:02,597
this? And so I think what what
I hear you saying is the reason I

987
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:06,677
was drawn to those people is because I
was looking for myself. Both looking for

988
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:11,237
yourself but also the beauty of the fact
that you could recognize within them

989
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:14,437
that which you were
struggling with yourself.

990
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:17,797
Yeah. And that's what bred compassion.

991
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:22,277
I guarantee you as a generalization
there's not anybody in prison that I've

992
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:26,517
helped a lot and we gift a lot of my
courses to inmates that doesn't think

993
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:30,637
they're fundamentally bad.
Society has confirmed it.

994
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:33,997
But it's the chicken and the egg, which
came first, right? I would assert that

995
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:37,717
that soul incarnated with the story
they were bad and then had to curate the

996
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:41,797
events to confirm it.
Frequency precedes form. That's how

997
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:45,397
powerful we are.
Didn't matter where you looked, Philip,

998
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:48,757
you were always going to see bad.

999
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:52,197
And then you try to compensate which
of course is logical and because you're a

1000
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:55,477
beautiful soul and you didn't want
to experience suffering, everybody as I

1001
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:57,237
said is trying to mitigate their own

1002
00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:00,117
suffering. Oh, man.

1003
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:03,797
Yeah. And now where's the suffering? Oh,

1004
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:08,237
it was just a story.
It's It's not even It isn't.

1005
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:13,197
So then who needs marijuana?
Who needs Dr. Pepper? Who needs junk food?

1006
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:17,197
Oh. And even if you
have it periodically cuz

1007
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:20,837
there may still be what I call karmic
momentum in your physiology, meaning

1008
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:24,757
your physiology like, you know, when
people have a lot of imbalances in their

1009
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,757
gut, they might be drawn to certain foods.
You know, when women go through

1010
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:31,357
pregnancy, there are certain
inclinations towards tastes and you

1011
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:35,357
know, so your physiology
might still inform a habit.

1012
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:38,997
But now you get to have conscious choice.

1013
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:41,117
Is choosing Dr. Pepper junk food

1014
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:44,637
marijuana in Philip's best interest when

1015
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:49,517
who he sees himself to be is this
boundless limitless being who warrants

1016
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:53,557
love? Who is love? Of course not. Yeah.

1017
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:57,437
Exactly. But now it's a choice
as opposed to before it was an unconscious

1018
00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:02,277
reaction. Right. >> Which had
its own undeniable momentum

1019
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:05,597
that was very hard to overcome. Some
people do it with willpower. You managed

1020
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:07,837
to do that with your opioids.

1021
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:13,597
But you can never over time overcome
that which is persistently there.

1022
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:14,837
That's what I said, you know, you can

1023
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:16,277
never get something of enough of

1024
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:20,757
something that almost works. Yeah. Yeah.

1025
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:22,957
But now you get to make a choice for

1026
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:25,877
yourself from love.

1027
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:28,517
Right. I get to take care of me.

1028
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:34,837
What a novel thought. >> [laughter] >>
Yeah, cuz I'm the good guy. I'm a good

1029
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:36,917
guy. >> [__] A.

1030
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:38,997
Been a good guy the whole time.

1031
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:42,877
You have. And just And just because this

1032
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:48,157
is an important distinction
that will give you power.

1033
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:49,797
You have been a good guy all the time.

1034
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:55,397
You are a good guy and and not or or but

1035
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:57,917
by virtue of being human you have the

1036
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:03,237
capacity to experience
yourself as bad and act

1037
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:07,357
accordingly. I see. Okay, yeah. Yeah.

1038
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:12,677
I It's important that we integrate
that versus dismiss it. So that like you

1039
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:15,917
said, if there's karmic momentum if
something happens, I don't fall into a

1040
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:19,477
cycle of ah See I I [__] up.
I need to be crowned

1041
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:23,037
again. I'm such a bad guy.
I knew I couldn't keep it up. All of those

1042
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:25,797
stories would only be reinforcing the

1043
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:30,837
underlying bad that you haven't
incorporated or included.

1044
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:33,317
Right. Okay. >> Can you feel
the power in that? Because

1045
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:35,037
otherwise, if you walk around now Philip

1046
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:37,317
as a good guy, you leave yourself

1047
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:40,517
ironically more vulnerable again. Cuz no

1048
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:43,277
one can sustain that. Right. Right.

1049
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:47,677
Okay. Yeah. Okay. That makes sense.

1050
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:49,157
So, the way I would say to the deep

1051
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:52,957
energetic level is who you are is love.

1052
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,717
And love makes space for all of it.

1053
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:57,837
Yeah.

1054
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:01,037
Yeah. Dude, you talk my language, bro.

1055
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:05,317
Yes, love. Yes. When you go into these

1056
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:08,877
incarceration facilities or you see
homeless, you don't judge them, do you?

1057
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:12,077
No. No, but objectively
the way that they've

1058
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:16,277
ended up where they are is because of
consequences and actions that, you know,

1059
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:18,237
according to society aren't agreed upon

1060
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:20,717
or they're frowned upon, right? But you

1061
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:23,557
come in with no judgment. Because in

1062
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:28,277
that relationship, you're making space
for their indiscretions. You're making

1063
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:30,517
space for their shortcomings. You're

1064
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:34,557
making space for their humanity. Yeah.

1065
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:38,840
Now you get to make space for Philip's.

1066
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:41,597
So, now I'm going to blow another
part of your mind. Are you ready?

1067
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:44,117
>> Dude, I'm ready, man.

1068
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:49,520
You never, ever wanted to be healed.

1069
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:53,837
Because there was nothing to be healed.

1070
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:56,597
You just wanted to be held.

1071
01:02:56,680 --> 01:03:00,277
For your imperfections.

1072
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:04,317
That 14-year-old, wherever you were
and you had this big, you know, brouhaha

1073
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:07,037
scene and you were put on probation and

1074
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:09,957
all the things, that 14-year-old wanted

1075
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:14,357
somebody to hold him and say, "It's okay.

1076
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:17,837
You're not bad for what happened." And
in fact, it took, you know, as you said,

1077
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:22,637
17 years later whenever you're 31 and
a therapist said, "No, you were abused."

1078
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:24,317
That was the first time you got a

1079
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:30,320
glimpse of like, "Oh,
I didn't do anything wrong." Yeah.

1080
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:33,077
So again, your journey for healing

1081
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:36,357
perpetuates what? The idea that there's

1082
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:41,370
something to be healed. >> [laughter]

1083
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:49,637
>> Oh, man, Peter.

1084
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:54,437
Oh. I I So, okay. I was going to say I am

1085
01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:57,837
healed, but that would just
perpetuate that I was broken.

1086
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:02,677
I'm just I am. You are.
And then depending on what lens you look

1087
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:04,197
through based on the narratives and the

1088
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:05,957
stories that we typically curate from

1089
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:11,597
our childhood, we will form
a life to represent that.

1090
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:14,997
So if you're always looking to be healed,
then you must say fundamentally

1091
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:17,917
there's something wrong with you. No,
you went through what you went through

1092
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:20,277
and by the way, it's already finished.

1093
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:23,157
Right. It happened forever ago.

1094
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:27,957
22 years ago you had this moment
with this 40-year-old woman. 22 like

1095
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:31,397
even physiologically, you're not the same

1096
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:35,357
person as you were when you started this
conversation cuz cells have died and new

1097
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:38,077
ones have been born.

1098
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:42,957
That 14-year-old, with all due respect,
he died, you know, 22 years ago.

1099
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:49,360
You're just holding on to the story as
evidence to sustain your ego's identity.

1100
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:54,837
Yeah. It's got What
What What does literally

1101
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:59,117
literally What does what you went through
when you were 14 have to do with today?

1102
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:03,157
Nothing. Nothing.
Now we can embrace the human

1103
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:05,397
part, which is it had everything to do

1104
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:07,117
with your identity until we just

1105
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:11,197
revealed it, which was it confirmed

1106
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:15,237
a story that you were bad, that you're
dirty, there's something wrong with you.

1107
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:18,717
You know, we didn't go through all
of them cuz they're bedfellows to me.

1108
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:23,117
But they're all sort of associated,
they're relative, right? Yeah. Yeah.

1109
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:27,357
Being bad, dirty for what happened,
there's something wrong with you. I

1110
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:31,477
would throw in you're not wanted, right,
which is being sort of discarded from

1111
01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:35,117
the church. So you can
write all of these I mean

1112
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:38,157
this is recorded, you can watch it, but I
I just want to share them with you so

1113
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:41,717
you can investigate the same process
I took you through which is is it true

1114
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:44,917
that you're bad? No. Is it true that
you're not wanted? No. Is it true that

1115
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:48,397
you're dirty? No. Do you see? Is it true
there's something wrong with you? No,

1116
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:52,037
they're all lies.
But they are all the fundamental

1117
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:54,717
addiction that was the precursor to the

1118
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:57,437
solutions you found to mitigate

1119
01:05:57,520 --> 01:06:01,037
suffering. Wow, yes.

1120
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:03,317
And in the absence of those, my friend,

1121
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:08,837
if it's not true that you're
not wanted, if it's not true

1122
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:12,557
that there's something wrong with you,
if there's not true that you're bad, and

1123
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:16,197
if it's not true that you're
dirty, they're all gone,

1124
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:18,677
you literally don't have those ways of

1125
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:24,240
relating to yourself.
Who does Philip get to be?

1126
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:30,877
>> [laughter] >> I don't even know, man.

1127
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:32,957
It's so exciting. >> That's
a very accurate answer. Yeah, you

1128
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:36,437
don't cuz I'm introducing you to a world
with which you're not familiar. Welcome

1129
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:40,597
to 2.0 world, my friend. >> Yeah. Wow.

1130
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:44,997
Oh. Now I just want to write. I've been
dealing with writer's block, but now I

1131
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:47,997
just Well, I'll tell you what right now,
whatever it is that you do, and again,

1132
01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:49,917
I'm not familiar with music, it just got

1133
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:52,797
exponentially more powerful. Oh,

1134
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:58,037
[__] Can you feel that? Yeah. Yeah.
And here's a really funny thing

1135
01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:01,557
that I want you to understand and I
can't categorically say is true. My

1136
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:04,157
guess is because when we shift our

1137
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:05,677
internal terrain, the way we view

1138
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:08,637
ourselves, and the fundamental

1139
01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:11,677
way that we relate to who we are, like

1140
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:13,917
your energetic signature has shifted

1141
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:17,797
today. That informs your physiology.

1142
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:21,957
So, I've worked with people who may
have been addicted to cigarettes for 40

1143
01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:26,557
years. We had someone in my mastermind
who smoked 120 cigarettes a day.

1144
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:30,317
After our conversation, that next week
she had three, and the week after she

1145
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:32,317
hasn't touched a cigarette again.

1146
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:32,797
Wow.

1147
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:36,037
>> Because her physiology,
the form that is

1148
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:39,397
informed by your view of yourself, now

1149
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:42,077
is going to have different

1150
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:46,557
proclivities, different tendencies,
different uh preferences.

1151
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:50,797
So, I wouldn't be surprised, again,
I don't know, it may not be instant, that

1152
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:53,357
your body no longer even wants

1153
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:56,397
marijuana, it doesn't like the taste of

1154
01:07:56,480 --> 01:08:01,597
Dr. Pepper, and it certainly would
never drive through a McDonald's drive

1155
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:05,197
drive-by. Yeah. Do you know

1156
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:10,077
>> Yeah. Do you Can you see that? Because
Because your your your physical form as

1157
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an extension of your energetic signature,

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01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:17,117
it it doesn't align anymore.
It's like it's physically impossible, not

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01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:19,397
physically impossible, but for me to go

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01:08:19,480 --> 01:08:24,317
into like a fast food place. Like it
does it doesn't align with who I am in

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01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:29,157
the way that I view myself, or the way
that I revere the opportunity that is to

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be me as a human being.

1163
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:34,517
Right. It doesn't align anymore. Yeah.

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01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:38,637
Do you see? Yeah. So,
no longer those things no longer not

1165
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:40,557
bad, they never were, they were just the

1166
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:45,757
extension of the bad through
which you viewed yourself.

1167
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:49,757
They They're just something that
probably won't even resonate with the

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01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:54,917
frequency, albeit only like 10, 20,
15 minutes old, but as you continue to

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01:08:55,000 --> 01:09:00,437
embody that, you won't be
drawn to substances like that.

1170
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:04,077
Yeah. That makes sense. >> is that?
Dude, that's awesome. That's

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01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:08,997
what I wanted. Like I just want to drink
water and eat produce and be healthy and

1172
01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:12,237
feel good. Yeah.
But I didn't want that before.

1173
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:16,197
Like I wanted it, but I didn't I I
craved something different. And you're

1174
01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:21,597
saying now with the new me,
a new energy, a new frequency, that

1175
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:24,957
those things will just be not even
relevant anymore because now I'm just a

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01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:27,677
different person. >> You won't
even attract them into your

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01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:31,720
field because it's not who you be.

1178
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:34,117
It would. Yeah.

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01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:39,277
>> And and again, just to make space
for the phenomenal being you are, if

1180
01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:42,157
occasionally there might be this like,
"You know what? [__] it. You're out with

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01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:43,677
the family. I'm going to have a Dr.

1182
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:46,997
Pepper." And you haven't had one for a
month or a few weeks. Like who cares? It

1183
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:49,437
doesn't have to know be bad. Do you know

1184
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:51,477
what I'm saying? Yeah, just is.

1185
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:54,240
It just is.

1186
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:59,077
Yes. I was going to say
how do you feel, but

1187
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:01,797
I think it's pretty much Dude, you're

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01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:06,397
the freaking man, bro.
I love you so much, bro. Thank you.

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01:10:06,480 --> 01:10:10,397
Thank you. You're a sweetheart.
I I just feel so

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blessed to get to do what I get to do,
especially with people like you who

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01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:17,037
showed up, you know, borderline
only an hour ago, who thought

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01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:19,637
that there was something wrong with them,
they were bad, they're broken,

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01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:23,797
they have addictive problems, and had
all sorts of shame and guilt to the

1194
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:28,397
absolute boundless joy that is now
evident in every cell of your body. I

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01:10:28,480 --> 01:10:30,637
mean, what a gift.

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01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:34,517
Dude, yes. Oh.

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01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:38,757
Yeah, you are a sweetheart, and the world
just became a much brighter place

1198
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:41,957
because >> Oh.
Philip didn't try and heal himself

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anymore. He held the part of him that got
hurt once. Which everybody can relate to.

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01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:50,917
And that's going to make you not only
a better husband, a better father, a

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01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:55,757
better friend, a better musician,
and the people whose lives you've yet to

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01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:59,117
touch, that don't even know you exist,
I just want to acknowledge you for the

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01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:03,197
difference you're going to make
that you don't even know yet.

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01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:05,677
Dude, thank you, Peter. Thank you.

1205
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:09,037
There's not one human being alive,
you know, of the millions who will get to

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01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:13,117
listen to this, who don't have their own
form of addiction. It may not manifest

1207
01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:17,437
in choosing substances as a solution
to mitigate suffering, but it is

1208
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:21,037
nonetheless the addiction to thinking
that they're not loved, that they're

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01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:24,397
they're worthless, that they're not
safe, that nobody loves them, that

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01:11:24,480 --> 01:11:27,957
they're not going to be okay.
And so, thank you for your courage and

1211
01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:32,917
vulnerability, your absolute beauty
of spirit that allowed you to share things

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01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:35,677
that are going to touch the lives
of millions of people in their own form of

1213
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:39,797
addiction that I hope after this
conversation, they now get to transcend

1214
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and see as a fundamental
lie and that beneath that

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01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:47,957
is the pure love, freedom,
possibility of the essence of

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who we all are. >> [music]

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