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Hi, this is Peter Cone and you're

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listening to finding freedom. In this

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episode, which is a big wow. I just

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worked with Amra and I feel this is going
to touch the lives of millions of

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people because really she's speaking
from what I consider to be the default

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1.0 mindset of humans, which is to be

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living in fear and suffering. And she

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had very good reason to. born in Bosnia,
lived through the war as a little girl,

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and unbeknownst to herself for three and
a half decades, has still been living in

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war, but just inside of her nervous

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system. If you in any way are holding on

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to a history that still leaves you
feeling scared and sometimes in terror,

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this episode is for you. I hope you get
to discover what she got to discover.

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for a world of complete freedom, love,
pure possibility, and absolute joy on

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the other side of the limits that have

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been defining you. Welcome to 2.0 world.

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Welcome to finding freedom.
>> And I did see you in London. I came to

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event in London. >> Did you enjoy that?

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>> Oh, that was so amazing.
the energy like

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what I enjoy what I realized after the

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event finished is that the the

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collective energy in the
room is just unbelievable.

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>> So are you based in the UK then?

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>> No, no, no, no. I'm based in Romania.

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>> Okay. >> I live in Romania
at the moment with my

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husband and my son. He's 12. >> Yeah.

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>> Uh he better not hear me.
I say that he's 12. He's turning 13.

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>> Oh, okay. It's important for him.

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>> It's very important. It's a big deal.

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Uh, but originally I'm
from Bosnia. I'm from SO.

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>> Okay. So, you submitted a video
saying that you really struggle with fear,

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which is okay. That's fine. Um, but it

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it plagues your life in terms of checking
the doors and not being able to

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do things. Like, explain a little bit

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more of how it sort of seems to have

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control over your life.

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>> It's just overwhelming. Paralyzing is
the word. Like how many times can you go

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out of the house

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>> and check the stove? Like I even tell

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myself for example like you switched it

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off, do not come back, you know, and I

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just keep on coming back. Um the doors

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at night um the fear that somebody will

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come in and the fears go like take my

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child away. um all these kind of crazy I

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thought I was watching too many movies

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but then I realized that actually when I

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I did a lot of work over the years my

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life was kind of like a movie you know I

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live some of the things that were in a

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movie so I guess when now the life is

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kind of stressful I guess the old things

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and patterns come back so it's just

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paralyzing I would have a simple thing

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to do for example I don't know write an

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email, a simple email. I would

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procrastinate. I would freeze. I would

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stay for hours just not doing that.

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>> It's I don't know. The word is

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paralyzing. I think I like Yeah,

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>> I get it. It's okay. It's okay. So,
you're in a safe space. I have no doubt

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that we're going to be able to get
beyond this. Uh and I can probably make

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some pretty accurate guesses as to where
it came from, but I'd like to hear from

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you. um especially given where
you grew up and your background. So

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>> I even wrote if I sorry to interrupt

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like I even wrote if I get to freeze I

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wrote do not skip these words you know
just say them out so I'll just keep them

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here you know just >> fine no
you you're well prepared I'm I I

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appreciate that both for yourself for

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your own comfort and also to help me

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help you. Um, so tell me, so tell me

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about your upbringing, your childhood. I

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can guess some of it based on where
you grew up, but as you've heard me say,

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past hurt informs future fear, right? So

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typically the things that we're scared

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of and fear is as a byproduct of the way

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that we have experienced life as a

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child, the things that we went through.

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So I'm sure you've got plenty to share.

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I was listening some of your podcasts

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before I got to talk to you and um you

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was saying something about stories that

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we just make them up and I was like will

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I share my story because then in the
background I feel like cuz you were

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talking something about victimhood and

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stuff and that's why for many many many

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years I didn't choose to share my story

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because there are so many
people that had it worse than me

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>> but it was very overwhelming.

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Um I was 11 or 11 and a half
when the war started in Bosnia.

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>> Yeah. >> And it
really came by this like

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surprise. It was overnight. On Friday I

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went to school and on Monday all the

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shops were robbed. My brother's best

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friend would sniper in our living room.

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So it was just

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>> just very very overwhelming. And as
a child probably I didn't have a capacity

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to actually understand what was

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happening which was a good thing in a

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way. But then as I grew up and I became

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aware of certain things and I matured, I

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actually realized and I kept on going
back and back and back and back to the

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to to the story.

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>> Um I did have a lot
of therapy to try to

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understand what happened and try to

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understand that this is past but I never

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ever managed to to accept it,

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acknowledged it and just move on. That's

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what I That's what I realized. We were

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in a war for maybe a year and then

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because my grandparents and my brother
were in the other city, that city got

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occupied, we didn't have
communications with them.

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>> Yeah. >> So, we didn't
know if they were living

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or not living. So, when we realized we

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got a red cross letter that they kind of

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alive, then we wanted to get out uh from

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the city. And by that time, at the end

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of the 92, not a fly could get out

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except special convoys.

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And my dad stayed cuz he was military
capable. So, he couldn't leave.

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>> Mhm. >> And he didn't
even want to leave. And

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then my mom and I decided to leave. And

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um so we did, but we couldn't get out as

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ourselves. So, we had to have fake IDs.

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>> Mhm. and completely like new identities

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and stuff and go through enemies lines

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and snipers and all that stuff.
So yeah, it was

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needless to say complicated.

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>> Yeah, it's okay. I mean, the word that

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comes to mind, especially through the

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eyes and senses of a child, is it's

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terrifying. You know, that's what I

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still feel is in your nervous
system is absolute terror. Right.

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>> Absolutely. And that actually started

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coming up when I had my child.

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>> Mhm. >> And as Alex
was growing up and he

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started asking questions. Um my mom

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unfortunately passed away two and a half

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years ago. I'll also get to that. But he

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was very connected to my mom and we we

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visited a lot of times. So we never

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discussed we're not a family who kind
of discusses these kind of heavy heavy

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things. We never did.
So I didn't explicitly

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>> sit him down and say this is what
happened. But he's a very smart uh kid

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and as he was growing up and asking

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questions. I was telling him few things

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of course modified versions of it what

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he could um handle. But as he was

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getting to the age that I was when that

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happened, which is kind of around this

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time, these fears just
came back like I was

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>> Mhm.

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>> just teleported back to the time and

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yeah, I tried journaling, I tried
therapy, I tried name it, I think.

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>> Yeah,

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>> I I tried it,
but it's just coming back.

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writing, journaling did hap did um help

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in a way because I kind of left it
on a paper. I said some things that I was

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kind of never allowed or they were
not politically correct to say.

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>> Okay. >> So I just like
wrote it down and then at

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least it felt like somebody heard.

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>> Yeah. >> You know,
so kind of that helped a bit.

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>> Yeah. No, I get it. It's okay.
Like all of us, whatever it is that we go

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through, your nervous system is going
to react and respond according to the

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circumstance. Right? The thing is now

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how you're um how old are you now? 40

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>> 456 in my son's

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>> in my son's language. Yeah.

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>> Yeah. Almost 4. Yeah.
For him, he's almost 13. Almost

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>> almost. >> Yeah. Exactly.
Okay. So, 45 almost 46.

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So the things that you went through

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obviously are predominantly you know um

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about 30 plus years ago right when

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>> I'm carrying that I'm carrying that

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stuff for 30 years I mean

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>> sorry yeah

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>> yeah it's okay it's okay so the first

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thing I want you to do is just be okay

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with it right meaning like because what

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I hear is one there's the discomfort
of having the fear that's not fun as you

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said having to go back can check
the stove five or six times and all the

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other things that drive you almost like

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an OCD kind of behavior, right?

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But the other thing is you then got

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resistance to it. You've got
judgment of yourself for it, right?

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>> Yeah. >> So you got
to understand, so if your son

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right now like was in any kind of scary

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situation, god forbid a war, and he was

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terrified, would you judge him for it?

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>> No way. No way.
You love him. And Right.

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So that's our first access, Amra, is to

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start to see, oh, hang on a minute. Your

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nervous system is still being dictated

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and run by a scared little girl, and

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then you're making her wrong for that,

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>> right? >> You see that?
So imagine you had a

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little cute little adorable daughter

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who's going through this terrifying war

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and you're saying no, you shouldn't have
this or you're being judgmental of her

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for feeling scared.
You wouldn't do that, would you?

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>> No way. >> So if you
could just feel that first of

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all, how does that hit your body?
If you could just allow knowing that your

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nervous system There you go. That's a

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little softer breath, right?

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Uh how would that feel? If you could
just say for now at least it's okay.

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It's okay that you still got all
of this terror in your system.

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>> Yeah. It's so hard for me not to judge

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myself. I'm so okay of not judging

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others and giving space to them. I love
doing that. But when it comes to me, I'm

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like >> Yeah. But it feels very nice.

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>> Yeah. Okay. Good. There we go.

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>> Yeah. >> Softer, right? >> Softer.
Yeah. It's like I see you type

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of a thing. >> Like I see
you and it's okay for you to

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be scared. >> There you go.
There you go. Like I use

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many terms and expressions and quotes
as you know and I say the ego which is

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really what we're dealing with here
doesn't want to be healed. It wants to

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be held.

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So I want you to consider your first

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barrier to freedom has
been not the fear itself

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but it's that you've been
trying to get rid of it.

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Right. >> Yeah. >> Which I
know seems counterintuitive

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because you're like, "Well, yeah, duh.
I want to get rid of it." Yes. But

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>> funny enough,

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>> sorry. Funny enough, I keep on telling

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my son when he gets scared. I keep on

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telling him, "Alex, it's okay. We just

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need to learn how to be comfortable
in discomfort and it will pass."

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>> So, >> yeah. >> Okay. >> Yes.
So you're teaching the right things

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but it's easy as you said to see things
in others or hold space for others and

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maybe not so much for ourselves. So

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first of all it's okay.

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So just notice fear is there right? Fear

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comes up and quite regularly for you.

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>> Yeah. >> For now just
with me can you just now

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I'm not saying we want it to stay
but can you be okay with that? That

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sometimes Amra gets scared.

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>> Sure. >> Yeah.
It's called being human, right?

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And especially given your background as
a child growing up in a war zone, that's

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pretty damn scary. >> Yeah.

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>> So, if we can start to locate that and

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feel in your body, if you could just

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with me make space for whatever it is

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you experience, in this case, you know,

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terror, fear, panic,

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can you see that that allows your body

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just to soften it a little bit?

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>> Yeah. I still feel it, but the body is

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like, "It's okay. It's okay."

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>> It's okay, isn't it? >> Well,
let me see. What's What's one of

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the most joyous things about your son? Is
it when he gets up in the morning and you

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see his cute little face?
>> Oh my god, you read my mind. Yes. When

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he when he wakes up in the morning and

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the first morning cuddles, it's just

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nothing replaces that.

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So, first of all, reading minds is part

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of my occupation, but secondly, yes, it

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sounds it sounds delightful. So, when

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you have your morning cuddles with him,

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are you trying to get rid of that

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sensation that you have with him?

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>> Oh, no. I'm like

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absorbing it. It's like

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>> my I'm there. I'm really there. fully

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present, enjoying every
moment, savoring it, right?

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>> Yeah. >> Yeah.
I can see it can almost bring you

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to tears. So now listen, on the spectrum

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of what it is to be a human, Amra, we go

00:14:23.440 --> 00:14:26.157
from all the way out to hopefully bliss

00:14:26.240 --> 00:14:31.757
and this divine experience of love and
connection, intimacy, affinity that you

00:14:31.840 --> 00:14:35.757
experience with your son in the morning
cuddles. That's one end of the spectrum.

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And the other end of the spectrum,
we could call absolute panic and terror,

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dread.

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But here's the thing. They all belong to

00:14:44.960 --> 00:14:48.717
the human scale of emotion.

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And what you're saying is, I just want the
good stuff. I don't want the other stuff.

00:14:55.760 --> 00:14:58.077
>> I think I'm saying I can't handle other

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stuff.

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>> I know. I know. But why is that a lie?

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Why is it a lie that you can't handle it?

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>> Cuz I handled so much.

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>> Yeah, you're here. You handled way more

00:15:13.520 --> 00:15:16.077
as a child. Like now you're in Romania.

00:15:16.160 --> 00:15:18.317
You're in your home. You're not in war

00:15:18.400 --> 00:15:20.557
zones. You're not having to make fake

00:15:20.640 --> 00:15:25.517
IDs to get past enemy lines. You know,
the worst thing you have to do is go

00:15:25.600 --> 00:15:27.117
back in the house and see if the stove

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is still on.

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>> It's not It's not that tragic, right?

00:15:32.880 --> 00:15:36.237
>> Yeah. Correct.
I see what you mean. Like

00:15:36.320 --> 00:15:38.957
on a conscious level, I see it. And when

00:15:39.040 --> 00:15:43.517
you say it like that,
it sounds >> funny. Um

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>> I like to bring as much comedy to my

00:15:45.520 --> 00:15:46.877
work as possible. Yes.

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>> Yeah. It just it's funny. Um but yeah,

00:15:51.200 --> 00:15:54.397
but yet here we are. >> No,
I know you're doing great. Just

00:15:54.480 --> 00:15:58.237
stick with me. I work in mysterious ways.
Okay. So, like you're already

00:15:58.320 --> 00:16:02.477
starting to feel soft. I'm explaining
to you. Yes. Consciously, logically, you

00:16:02.560 --> 00:16:06.477
understand. Oh, hang on a minute.
I'm human. As a human, I have the gamut of

00:16:06.560 --> 00:16:11.037
of emotions. Meaning, I have the full
spectrum of feelings available to me.

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And I would assert that's part of the

00:16:13.520 --> 00:16:16.797
joy of being human. Part of the joy of

00:16:16.880 --> 00:16:19.837
being human is that we get to feel

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anything. Just that we get to feel.

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You're alive.

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Think about it this way. If you now
as a welly, you know, aabled human, as a

00:16:29.360 --> 00:16:33.117
woman, if one of your arms, let's say
your dominant arm, your right arm, was

00:16:33.200 --> 00:16:37.517
always numb. You couldn't feel it.
You didn't even know if you had one.

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Would that be a fun way
to go around your life?

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>> No. >> No. So,
it's there, but it's numb,

00:16:44.480 --> 00:16:48.877
right? You don't want to feel it.
So, consider that anatomically as the

00:16:48.960 --> 00:16:52.477
equivalent of your emotions. You're
saying, "Well, my emotions are fear and

00:16:52.560 --> 00:16:55.437
terror there, but I don't want to feel
them." It's like you're trying to cut

00:16:55.520 --> 00:17:01.037
them off, >> right? Okay. >> Do you see?

00:17:01.120 --> 00:17:02.557
>> Yeah. >> You're starting to become more

00:17:02.640 --> 00:17:05.997
expansive, right? You're making space.

00:17:06.080 --> 00:17:08.557
>> Yeah. I'm not allowing them.

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>> Pardon? >> I'm not allowing them.

00:17:11.520 --> 00:17:14.477
>> Yes. And >> I'm just
saying I just want these. I

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don't want those.

00:17:16.480 --> 00:17:18.637
>> Exactly. And right now, what you just

00:17:18.720 --> 00:17:22.077
said with that big exhale is such a gift

00:17:22.160 --> 00:17:26.557
to yourself and everyone listening.
Cuz I promise you, everyone listening does

00:17:26.640 --> 00:17:28.637
the same. They don't want to feel bad.

00:17:28.720 --> 00:17:32.157
They don't want to feel scared. They
don't want to feel ugly. They don't want

00:17:32.240 --> 00:17:35.837
to feel tired. They don't want to feel
any of the negative stuff, but yeah,

00:17:35.920 --> 00:17:38.237
give me more of the positive stuff.

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Here's the rub. Human existence doesn't

00:17:41.040 --> 00:17:44.877
work like that. So you, what you just

00:17:44.960 --> 00:17:49.197
said was so accurate. You don't want
to feel in this case the fear and the

00:17:49.280 --> 00:17:53.277
terror. I want you to consider Amra,
it's not the fear and the terror that

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are bothering you. It's your resistance

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to them that is creating the suffering.

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And say that again. It's not the fear

00:18:03.120 --> 00:18:05.677
that is bothering you. It's the fact

00:18:05.760 --> 00:18:08.557
that you don't want to have it.

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>> I get it. >> And what I'm
saying is it's not that you

00:18:13.120 --> 00:18:16.317
can't handle the fear. You're a big
enough human being that you can handle

00:18:16.400 --> 00:18:17.837
all of it. That's how you're actually

00:18:17.920 --> 00:18:21.037
designed to have those feelings.

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And here's the beautiful thing. As soon

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as, now listen, as soon as you make

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space for the fear and the terror, what

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do you think happens to the fear and the

00:18:30.880 --> 00:18:33.597
terror?

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>> Yeah. They just have their voice and

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then they just go. >> They go.
They're just It's just look at

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it this way. If you were in your house
as you are, but let's say you're in the

00:18:45.200 --> 00:18:47.997
kitchen and your son comes in

00:18:48.080 --> 00:18:50.717
and he wants mommy's attention cuz he

00:18:50.800 --> 00:18:55.677
loves mommy, right? And he's like
dragging uh your pants, pulling your,

00:18:55.760 --> 00:18:59.357
you know, your skirt like mommy, mommy,
mommy, mommy, mommy, mommy. And you keep

00:18:59.440 --> 00:19:01.197
ignoring him. Not only do you keep

00:19:01.280 --> 00:19:04.077
ignoring him, you keep pushing him away.

00:19:04.160 --> 00:19:08.317
>> Yikes. He keeps on coming back.
I promise you.

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>> I promise you. Just like your fear and

00:19:10.400 --> 00:19:13.037
terror. Correct?

00:19:13.120 --> 00:19:17.437
>> Because what does he want? >> He
wants to be held. He wants attention.

00:19:17.520 --> 00:19:19.197
He wants that hug.

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>> And so, listen, my dear, that's all
your fear and terror are asking for.

00:19:27.520 --> 00:19:30.797
>> Oh, yeah. We're getting different
respiratory patterns already. Can you

00:19:30.880 --> 00:19:34.877
feel that? >> Yeah. >> Your fear
is not a problem. It's asking

00:19:34.960 --> 00:19:39.197
to be integrated as part of your
experience. That little girl, I don't

00:19:39.280 --> 00:19:43.757
say this to be melodramatic, but that
little girl is still there in Bosnia.

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She's scared. She's asking for you to

00:19:46.240 --> 00:19:49.197
pick her up and say, "I've got you."

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>> Every time I land there, every time I

00:19:52.240 --> 00:19:55.037
land that airport, like it's like the

00:19:55.120 --> 00:19:57.437
only way I can feel joy when I'm there

00:19:57.520 --> 00:20:00.157
is through my son's eyes because he's so

00:20:00.240 --> 00:20:02.717
excited for some reason. Actually now

00:20:02.800 --> 00:20:05.597
when you explained what you explained I

00:20:05.680 --> 00:20:07.917
think he's teaching me a lot of things

00:20:08.000 --> 00:20:12.397
but the joy that he has when he lands

00:20:12.480 --> 00:20:16.317
there you know the food

00:20:16.400 --> 00:20:21.517
um his pies his coffee places like he

00:20:21.600 --> 00:20:25.197
completely designed the ecosystem

00:20:25.280 --> 00:20:27.357
when he's there and he thoroughly enjoys

00:20:27.440 --> 00:20:31.757
it and he's very he's very sensitive in

00:20:31.840 --> 00:20:34.397
a sense that he's an empath. >> Yeah.

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>> Wonder why.
But anyways, he's an empath.

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So, he does understand what happened

00:20:38.960 --> 00:20:43.037
there. He would feel um some heaviness,

00:20:43.120 --> 00:20:45.597
but for him, it's like he knows how to

00:20:45.680 --> 00:20:50.877
process it. He's like, I acknowledge it,
but I'm still able to enjoy this place.

00:20:50.960 --> 00:20:51.277
>> Yeah.

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>> And I'm like,
let's get out of here. But

00:20:55.280 --> 00:20:58.637
then because he wants it, he wants to

00:20:58.720 --> 00:21:01.597
enjoy so badly, then I just get carried

00:21:01.680 --> 00:21:04.397
away with his joy. So I'm just

00:21:04.480 --> 00:21:06.957
>> joyful with him when we are there.

00:21:07.040 --> 00:21:10.877
>> I love it. And there's no doubt that
he and you have a soul contract so that

00:21:10.960 --> 00:21:15.357
he's here to help you just as you are
to help him. But so I want you to be able

00:21:15.440 --> 00:21:19.757
to see the distinction between the wise,
right? So meaning why does he have that

00:21:19.840 --> 00:21:22.157
experience versus yours? And there's two

00:21:22.240 --> 00:21:24.957
words. He looks through the eyes of

00:21:25.040 --> 00:21:27.517
possibility. It's all possible. It's

00:21:27.600 --> 00:21:34.280
pure joy, pure excitement. You're
looking through the eyes of probability.

00:21:36.000 --> 00:21:38.157
You see the difference? Your your

00:21:38.240 --> 00:21:40.877
current nervous system is wired. It's

00:21:40.960 --> 00:21:45.197
not accurate, but it is understandable
for which we have compassion. You're

00:21:45.280 --> 00:21:49.597
looking through the eyes of probability,
meaning what's probable to your nervous

00:21:49.680 --> 00:21:52.157
system that might happen.

00:21:52.240 --> 00:21:54.557
>> Correct?
which is just an extension of a

00:21:54.640 --> 00:21:56.797
history that's got nothing to do with

00:21:56.880 --> 00:22:01.917
today. So, number one, we want to make
space for that scared little girl. We

00:22:02.000 --> 00:22:05.597
love her. She's terrified and she's
asking for you to include her. Right.

00:22:05.680 --> 00:22:08.957
You You just became a mother
of two. Is that all right?

00:22:09.040 --> 00:22:12.077
>> It's okay. I always
wanted a little girl also.

00:22:12.160 --> 00:22:14.157
>> Well, she's there right there with you.

00:22:14.240 --> 00:22:17.517
>> There we go. >> She's just
been asking to be included.

00:22:17.600 --> 00:22:20.477
You've just been pushing her away
for 30 something years, right?

00:22:20.560 --> 00:22:24.317
>> I'm sorry. Yeah, >> it's okay.
Yeah, she's adorable. She's

00:22:24.400 --> 00:22:28.557
just really terrified. So, that's number
one. We're not trying to get rid of it,

00:22:28.640 --> 00:22:31.597
which is all you've been doing for three
and a half decades. We're actually

00:22:31.680 --> 00:22:33.437
saying, "No, there's space for you. You

00:22:33.520 --> 00:22:38.637
can come with us. I've got you. You're
in a safe space now." Right? Do you feel

00:22:38.720 --> 00:22:43.117
the difference? It's completely
the opposite. One is denial, dismissal,

00:22:43.200 --> 00:22:44.797
saying, "I'm you're not wanted here."

00:22:44.880 --> 00:22:48.717
And the other is like,
"You're so wanted here. I love you."

00:22:48.800 --> 00:22:52.797
>> Okay. Number one. >> Number
two, we now want to understand

00:22:52.880 --> 00:22:55.677
the mechanics of the probability mindset

00:22:55.760 --> 00:22:57.917
you're looking through. So, what did

00:22:58.000 --> 00:23:00.717
that little girl learn

00:23:00.800 --> 00:23:03.597
about the future? How is she oriented?

00:23:03.680 --> 00:23:06.077
What is the way that she perceives what

00:23:06.160 --> 00:23:08.877
might happen?

00:23:08.960 --> 00:23:12.157
>> That she will definitely not be okay.

00:23:12.240 --> 00:23:16.077
>> Definitely not be okay. Right? That's
the way that she relates to herself,

00:23:16.160 --> 00:23:20.237
which is terror. So you may have
heard me use that as one of the primal

00:23:20.320 --> 00:23:24.957
prisons, right? There's these 10 prisons
that we all have. And the default one

00:23:25.040 --> 00:23:29.357
that humans have as it relates to the
future is looking through a lens. It's

00:23:29.440 --> 00:23:34.317
not a truth. You're looking through
a lens that I'm not going to be okay. So

00:23:34.400 --> 00:23:38.237
now I want you to consider that that
little girl that Friday she came home

00:23:38.320 --> 00:23:40.317
and war was on Sunday. Like literally

00:23:40.400 --> 00:23:43.917
boom, just happened. Of course, it makes

00:23:44.000 --> 00:23:47.117
total sense that she's going to fear not

00:23:47.200 --> 00:23:49.517
being okay. Do you see that?

00:23:49.600 --> 00:23:52.717
>> Yeah. And it it's like I'm always

00:23:52.800 --> 00:23:57.757
expecting something to happen.

00:23:57.840 --> 00:24:01.597
>> Oh, that I understand. That's the other
part. That's the probability, right? I

00:24:01.680 --> 00:24:06.237
said, what your eyes of your son,
he's looking through the lens of what?

00:24:06.320 --> 00:24:10.637
>> Uh possibility.
>> And you're looking through the lens of

00:24:10.720 --> 00:24:12.157
>> probability.

00:24:12.240 --> 00:24:15.197
That's the expectation, right? He

00:24:15.280 --> 00:24:18.557
doesn't have a future. And so, he is

00:24:18.640 --> 00:24:20.637
purely curious, which is the nature of

00:24:20.720 --> 00:24:23.677
consciousness itself. We're here to

00:24:23.760 --> 00:24:25.837
explore our own potentiality and the

00:24:25.920 --> 00:24:28.477
experience of what it is to be a human.

00:24:28.560 --> 00:24:31.517
That is actually a joyous adventure.

00:24:31.600 --> 00:24:35.037
It's exploration. He's exploring. You're

00:24:35.120 --> 00:24:37.917
seeking. But what you're seeking for is

00:24:38.000 --> 00:24:40.077
evidence for your nervous system to be

00:24:40.160 --> 00:24:42.717
right. that there's reason for you to be

00:24:42.800 --> 00:24:45.597
scared. Do you see the difference?

00:24:45.680 --> 00:24:49.757
What is the truth, Armor, about the future
in terms of what you know? Do you

00:24:49.840 --> 00:24:51.757
absolutely >> have no clue?

00:24:51.840 --> 00:24:55.357
>> You're [__] clueless. Right. Right.

00:24:55.440 --> 00:24:59.437
No clue. Now, let's use that logic and
integrate it because your nervous system

00:24:59.520 --> 00:25:03.677
thinks it knows what's going to happen
and it's clearly not going to be good.

00:25:03.760 --> 00:25:08.077
Do you see? >> Yeah. >> He's 12.
He's a kid. He doesn't have

00:25:08.160 --> 00:25:11.917
enough experience to worry about
the future yet. Okay, we could argue, of

00:25:12.000 --> 00:25:15.757
course, you were 11, you know, so things
can happen to children who are much

00:25:15.840 --> 00:25:19.917
younger and they start to develop
a relationship to the future of fear. He's

00:25:20.000 --> 00:25:23.597
clearly not there, which speaks volumes
about you as a mom and the space you've

00:25:23.680 --> 00:25:27.597
created for him >> to keep
him open and allow him to be in

00:25:27.680 --> 00:25:30.237
curiosity, exploration, adventure,

00:25:30.320 --> 00:25:33.037
right? Pure possibility. Now, that is

00:25:33.120 --> 00:25:37.677
where your little girl started. So,
we just want to let her know it's okay to

00:25:37.760 --> 00:25:43.037
go back there, right? We just want
to do it very carefully. So, yes, you're

00:25:43.120 --> 00:25:46.717
looking through the lens
of you're not going to be okay.

00:25:46.800 --> 00:25:49.357
How do we know that? That view that

00:25:49.440 --> 00:25:54.360
you're not going to be okay is also a lie.

00:26:01.280 --> 00:26:03.197
>> It's been there for 30 something years.

00:26:03.280 --> 00:26:06.637
34 years. I'm here. I mean, I always

00:26:06.720 --> 00:26:10.477
thought I would not be okay
and I'm here talking to you.

00:26:10.560 --> 00:26:13.277
>> You made it.

00:26:13.360 --> 00:26:16.077
It's pretty good evidence, right? So, so

00:26:16.160 --> 00:26:17.597
you got to start. This is where it

00:26:17.680 --> 00:26:20.477
becomes comedic, right? You got three

00:26:20.560 --> 00:26:25.677
and a half decades with all the love
and compassion and understanding of why

00:26:25.760 --> 00:26:29.117
looking through a lens that you're not
going to be okay. And yet here you sit

00:26:29.200 --> 00:26:33.117
with a beautiful son, a husband
who apparently loves you, and the

00:26:33.200 --> 00:26:37.757
opportunity to break free talking
to Peter Cone. Not only are you not not

00:26:37.840 --> 00:26:40.397
going to be okay, life seems
pretty damn good. Honestly,

00:26:40.480 --> 00:26:42.237
>> I hit a jackpot.

00:26:42.320 --> 00:26:45.517
>> You hit the [__] jackpot,

00:26:45.600 --> 00:26:49.277
right? So, you might want to start
to realize that your view of life isn't

00:26:49.360 --> 00:26:53.037
that accurate. >> Correct.

00:26:53.120 --> 00:26:56.957
>> Okay. So, let's do number one. And you
know, you may have heard me or seen me

00:26:57.040 --> 00:27:01.437
do this exercise before, but if I were
to cut you open, Amra, am I going to

00:27:01.520 --> 00:27:05.757
find a physical manufacturing label made
of wood, metal, plastic inside of you,

00:27:05.840 --> 00:27:10.077
says Amra, born in Bosnia,
she's not going to be okay?

00:27:10.160 --> 00:27:14.157
>> No. >> No, I'm not.
Right. So, where, cuz it

00:27:14.240 --> 00:27:17.997
does define you and it causes you to go
back in the house three, five, seven

00:27:18.080 --> 00:27:23.117
times to check the stove or whatever it
is. Where does I'm not going to be okay

00:27:23.200 --> 00:27:26.957
live? >> In my beautiful, beautiful, very

00:27:27.040 --> 00:27:30.957
stubborn mind. >> Yeah.
Very stubborn, very imaginative,

00:27:31.040 --> 00:27:33.517
very convincing.

00:27:33.600 --> 00:27:37.517
Yes. Yes. Very realistic mind. And it is

00:27:37.600 --> 00:27:39.917
real. But the difference is it's not

00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:45.320
true. >> Things can.

00:27:45.680 --> 00:27:50.237
>> Okay. >> Yeah.
So if it's just in your mind, I

00:27:50.320 --> 00:27:54.157
have all the love and compassion.
It is a reality. Human beings are defined

00:27:54.240 --> 00:27:59.037
entirely by their view of life.
And to them, their view feels real.

00:27:59.120 --> 00:28:03.117
>> Yes. >> It's very real.
>> But you now at this point, if I was

00:28:03.200 --> 00:28:06.877
talking to you as a 12y old, it might
be much harder because it's very new and

00:28:06.960 --> 00:28:09.677
you're still in it. But as a 45year-old,

00:28:09.760 --> 00:28:12.557
soon to be 46,

00:28:12.640 --> 00:28:14.717
let's keep your son's uh your

00:28:14.800 --> 00:28:17.597
distinctions of age alive for him.

00:28:17.680 --> 00:28:20.237
is, you know, it just isn't it just

00:28:20.320 --> 00:28:23.757
isn't close to a truth anymore.

00:28:23.840 --> 00:28:27.597
You've got three and a half decades
of evidence. Yeah. Notwithstanding the

00:28:27.680 --> 00:28:31.437
normal things of being human where you
stub your toe or god forbid maybe you

00:28:31.520 --> 00:28:35.357
did a little light on or you know [__]
that we do as humans. But you're going

00:28:35.440 --> 00:28:40.077
to be okay because we know you are
because you're right there in front of me,

00:28:40.160 --> 00:28:44.317
>> right? >> So if it's
just a p perspective, which

00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:48.557
is all it is, it's just a view. It's
a story that you're not going to be okay.

00:28:48.640 --> 00:28:52.637
Is it an absolute truth that
you're not going to be okay?

00:28:52.720 --> 00:28:56.877
>> No. >> No. Now,
stay with me. You're doing

00:28:56.960 --> 00:29:01.117
great. So, we want to first look at the
dissolution of it. I'm not going to say

00:29:01.200 --> 00:29:03.197
you're going to be okay, but I guarantee

00:29:03.280 --> 00:29:08.077
you absolutely 100% you're not not going

00:29:08.160 --> 00:29:12.557
to be okay. You're not
not going to be okay.

00:29:12.640 --> 00:29:16.477
Meaning, we remove it. It's not a truth
anymore. It's a lens you've been looking

00:29:16.560 --> 00:29:20.077
through which was totally appropriate
for the scared little girl but

00:29:20.160 --> 00:29:22.157
completely inappropriate for a grown

00:29:22.240 --> 00:29:26.077
woman. So if that's gone just just as

00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:30.717
best as you can feel into your body
you can't anymore look through the lie

00:29:30.800 --> 00:29:32.317
because that's all it is that you're not

00:29:32.400 --> 00:29:34.637
going to be okay. How does that feel?

00:29:34.720 --> 00:29:38.797
What becomes available for you?

00:29:38.880 --> 00:29:41.880
>> Everything.

00:29:42.240 --> 00:29:43.997
just waking up in the morning and not

00:29:44.080 --> 00:29:47.997
being tired of that weight.

00:29:48.080 --> 00:29:51.437
>> Yeah. >> You know,
and I didn't even open my eyes

00:29:51.520 --> 00:29:55.037
and it's already heavy. >> Yeah.

00:29:55.120 --> 00:29:57.757
>> Just Yeah.

00:29:57.840 --> 00:29:59.277
>> Freedom.

00:29:59.360 --> 00:30:03.037
>> Just even allowing myself

00:30:03.120 --> 00:30:05.677
to feel the possibility

00:30:05.760 --> 00:30:12.600
of something being okay.
>> Yeah. What would that be like?

00:30:16.000 --> 00:30:21.480
I can't describe. It would just be

00:30:21.920 --> 00:30:24.077
>> like morning snuggles.

00:30:24.160 --> 00:30:27.277
>> Yeah. No. Yeah, it Yeah. No, I I don't

00:30:27.360 --> 00:30:31.037
know if it can be that

00:30:31.120 --> 00:30:34.477
close. Give me a close.
>> Close. Very close.

00:30:34.560 --> 00:30:41.240
>> Yeah. >> Very close. It's just Yeah.

00:30:41.520 --> 00:30:45.437
I'm very stubborn. I am very >> No,
you're not. You're not. Careful.

00:30:45.520 --> 00:30:47.197
Careful. You're not stubborn. You're

00:30:47.280 --> 00:30:50.397
freedom looking through a stubborn

00:30:50.480 --> 00:30:54.637
convincing lens which is not a truth. We

00:30:54.720 --> 00:30:57.197
don't want to keep reinforcing a lie.

00:30:57.280 --> 00:30:59.997
You're not stubborn. You are joy. You

00:31:00.080 --> 00:31:03.517
are freedom. You are love.

00:31:03.600 --> 00:31:05.517
You are curiosity.

00:31:05.600 --> 00:31:09.517
You are p pure play. That's your nature.

00:31:09.600 --> 00:31:15.037
You've become confused
with your perspective.

00:31:15.120 --> 00:31:18.077
Do you see the difference? >> I do. I do.

00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:20.717
>> So, is it true that you're stubborn?

00:31:20.800 --> 00:31:23.757
>> No. >> No. >> Which is my lens?

00:31:23.840 --> 00:31:28.397
>> Exactly. Now, that we can do
something about. See, if you're stubborn,

00:31:28.480 --> 00:31:31.917
then you wouldn't even have morning
snuggles. See, this is where the

00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:36.717
evidence falls apart. That snuggles that
you have with your beautiful son, Alex,

00:31:36.800 --> 00:31:38.397
has got nothing to do with somebody

00:31:38.480 --> 00:31:43.837
whose system is really stubborn. You're
playful. You're joyous. You're you're

00:31:43.920 --> 00:31:48.957
laughing. You're crying.
You're tickling. You're in heaven. Right.

00:31:49.040 --> 00:31:51.597
>> Right. >> And that you
said you could take more

00:31:51.680 --> 00:31:55.437
of. Why? Because that's your nature.

00:31:55.520 --> 00:31:58.797
There's a difference between what
is natural and what has become normal for

00:31:58.880 --> 00:32:01.037
you. It is not natural for somebody to

00:32:01.120 --> 00:32:03.117
go and check the stove three, five, six

00:32:03.200 --> 00:32:08.077
times. That's not natural. That's normal
because of the lens that you've been

00:32:08.160 --> 00:32:10.237
looking through.
Do you see the difference?

00:32:10.320 --> 00:32:13.117
>> Absolutely. >> Good.
Because the more you understand

00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:17.437
it, the more you're going to let go
of what has become normal and reside in

00:32:17.520 --> 00:32:19.517
your natural, which is what

00:32:19.600 --> 00:32:22.717
>> I will stop judging myself.

00:32:22.800 --> 00:32:27.757
>> Yeah. Yes. Judging yourself
is equally normal. It's

00:32:27.840 --> 00:32:30.877
very normal. you go out there in the
world. I mean, people judge each other

00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:32.557
themselves all day. That's very normal.

00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:36.957
It's very ordinary. I'm not interested
in that. I'm in or I'm interested in the

00:32:37.040 --> 00:32:38.877
extraordinary

00:32:38.960 --> 00:32:42.317
recognizing, oh, I I once was a little

00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:44.477
girl and her nervous system lives on in

00:32:44.560 --> 00:32:47.757
me and she's still trying to protect

00:32:47.840 --> 00:32:49.837
herself, but she doesn't need to. I've

00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:52.477
got it. It's okay.

00:32:52.560 --> 00:32:57.597
We're not not going to be okay. And how
do we know that? Because the future's

00:32:57.680 --> 00:32:59.277
unknown. And that's why through your

00:32:59.360 --> 00:33:01.677
son's eyes, he's teaching you the joy of

00:33:01.760 --> 00:33:07.037
the unknown, the pure
possibility of uncertainty.

00:33:07.120 --> 00:33:11.757
But to that little girl, that was
terrifying. And we understand the reason.

00:33:11.840 --> 00:33:14.797
>> Yes. >> Yes.
And I want wanted to say when you

00:33:14.880 --> 00:33:18.957
said that that one of the reasons why
I made my video the way I did is that I

00:33:19.040 --> 00:33:21.757
had this moment of thinking like he just

00:33:21.840 --> 00:33:24.477
came to me. I was with Alex and I looked

00:33:24.560 --> 00:33:27.277
at him and he was just so joyous in

00:33:27.360 --> 00:33:31.197
whatever he was doing and I said like I

00:33:31.280 --> 00:33:35.677
just don't want cuz he loves me so much
and he models me like they learn through

00:33:35.760 --> 00:33:37.357
like seeing.

00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:40.877
>> Yeah. And I said, I just want him to

00:33:40.960 --> 00:33:43.757
continue being that,

00:33:43.840 --> 00:33:47.757
>> you know, like continuing having that

00:33:47.840 --> 00:33:50.077
possibility like

00:33:50.160 --> 00:33:55.677
>> uh mindset and not
go to my former >> Yeah.

00:33:55.760 --> 00:33:59.677
>> Um >> outlook.
>> Yeah. Your old outlook.

00:33:59.760 --> 00:34:03.837
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah.
Amazing. Well, don't worry because

00:34:03.920 --> 00:34:07.757
he's obviously a powerful spirit who
just loves life and that's why he picked

00:34:07.840 --> 00:34:11.517
you because think about it.
If you want to get

00:34:11.600 --> 00:34:15.517
strong, you know, you go to the gym
and what do you do? If you want to get

00:34:15.600 --> 00:34:17.357
strong biceps, what do you do?

00:34:17.440 --> 00:34:20.717
>> You lift weights. >> You lift
something heavy, right? You go

00:34:20.800 --> 00:34:22.877
against the quote unquote what seems to

00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:25.517
be the resistance. He wants to

00:34:25.600 --> 00:34:28.877
experience pure joy and possibility. so

00:34:28.960 --> 00:34:31.757
perfect that he originally picked a mom

00:34:31.840 --> 00:34:35.597
who was stuck in probability and fear.

00:34:35.680 --> 00:34:39.037
What What a great training ground
for him to go, "Oh, that's not going to

00:34:39.120 --> 00:34:40.637
bother me. I'm still going to be looking

00:34:40.720 --> 00:34:43.357
through the eyes of possibility."

00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:47.000
Isn't that cool?

00:34:48.400 --> 00:34:50.317
>> That's beyond cool.

00:34:50.400 --> 00:34:53.357
>> Beyond cool. Yeah.

00:34:53.440 --> 00:34:59.357
So now we just want to get mom to join
him in his game of pure possibility.

00:34:59.440 --> 00:35:02.397
>> Right? >> Here's here's
the irony. Listen to me.

00:35:02.480 --> 00:35:04.477
All you've been doing is living in the

00:35:04.560 --> 00:35:06.957
world of possibility. It just your

00:35:07.040 --> 00:35:09.677
possibility has been very limited to

00:35:09.760 --> 00:35:14.797
your historical memory. You're still
So do you know what's going to happen in

00:35:14.880 --> 00:35:17.917
the in the future? >> I have no clue.

00:35:18.000 --> 00:35:20.477
>> No clue. But then it's the energy of

00:35:20.560 --> 00:35:23.757
possibility that you've been using just

00:35:23.840 --> 00:35:25.997
in a negative way. Because if you don't

00:35:26.080 --> 00:35:28.717
know what's going to happen,

00:35:28.800 --> 00:35:30.957
you're still using possibility, but

00:35:31.040 --> 00:35:33.837
you're creating worst case scenarios.

00:35:33.920 --> 00:35:38.157
>> Oh, I can list you.
I I'm an expert in a

00:35:38.240 --> 00:35:41.117
worst case scenarios. >> Okay.
Listen to what you just said.

00:35:41.200 --> 00:35:43.757
You're an expert. Yeah. But what energy

00:35:43.840 --> 00:35:48.360
are you using to create that?

00:35:52.240 --> 00:35:54.557
I don't know.
I don't see it. I don't know.

00:35:54.640 --> 00:35:58.237
>> Listen, you're you aren't you
using your imagination to create

00:35:58.320 --> 00:36:00.317
>> Oh, definitely. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:06.760
>> Well, what is imagination? Possibility.

00:36:10.240 --> 00:36:15.037
Don't. And I kept on saying I do not have

00:36:15.120 --> 00:36:16.957
imagination. I do, but I'm freaking

00:36:17.040 --> 00:36:21.117
using it for stupid. Anyways, okay.

00:36:21.200 --> 00:36:24.957
>> Listen, all anyone has is an
imagination. I can remember one of my

00:36:25.040 --> 00:36:29.117
first golfers, we helped triple his
winnings. You know, if you're a business

00:36:29.200 --> 00:36:32.637
and we triple your winnings in a year
and a half, that's pretty good, right?

00:36:32.720 --> 00:36:34.957
>> Yeah. >> He texted me
actually within the first

00:36:35.040 --> 00:36:37.997
couple of months working together.
This is before we got to triple, but he

00:36:38.080 --> 00:36:40.637
started to play incredibly well. And he

00:36:40.720 --> 00:36:43.437
was like, "Oh my god, I just got it. It

00:36:43.520 --> 00:36:48.760
just comes down to whoever
has the best imagination.

00:36:50.960 --> 00:36:54.557
>> I didn't even go to that
other side of imagination.

00:36:54.640 --> 00:36:57.917
Like, >> no, but you're
still using imagination.

00:36:58.000 --> 00:37:02.237
So, imagine, okay, so now I'm going
to allow you for a second to be stubborn

00:37:02.320 --> 00:37:03.357
with me.

00:37:03.440 --> 00:37:07.357
>> But your stubbornness is how incredibly

00:37:07.440 --> 00:37:10.957
attached you are to amazing imagined

00:37:11.040 --> 00:37:15.720
futures. That's how stubborn you are.

00:37:17.440 --> 00:37:21.277
>> The things I could do.
>> The things I could do.

00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:25.117
>> I know. If you can talk yourself into
walking in and out of a freaking house

00:37:25.200 --> 00:37:28.397
when you probably have way more
important things to do just to check the

00:37:28.480 --> 00:37:32.477
stove. Imagine what you could have
do when you apply that imagination to

00:37:32.560 --> 00:37:34.157
something you're actually committed to.

00:37:34.240 --> 00:37:36.477
>> Oh my god.

00:37:36.560 --> 00:37:43.560
>> It's crazy, isn't it?
That's how powerful you are, Amra. Humans.

00:37:44.080 --> 00:37:48.077
Humans. >> Isn't it
beautiful though to see?

00:37:48.160 --> 00:37:49.917
>> See, you never had a problem. You

00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:52.477
actually have a skill. It's just your

00:37:52.560 --> 00:37:55.357
skill was oriented towards something

00:37:55.440 --> 00:37:57.197
that's very understandable, which is

00:37:57.280 --> 00:38:02.397
still that little girl's memory
that she's not going to be okay. But

00:38:02.480 --> 00:38:03.997
you've got three and a half decades to

00:38:04.080 --> 00:38:10.520
show that your perceived
reality is so inaccurate.

00:38:11.200 --> 00:38:13.277
>> Right.

00:38:13.360 --> 00:38:17.757
I guess I like being so right, you know?

00:38:17.840 --> 00:38:20.557
So I'm just Yeah.

00:38:20.640 --> 00:38:25.597
>> Yeah. But you're so wrong
because even you like you're so

00:38:25.680 --> 00:38:31.720
committed to being right and you're
still wrong. So you kind of suck at that.

00:38:32.560 --> 00:38:35.197
Yeah. >> Right.

00:38:35.280 --> 00:38:37.437
>> I guess I'm starting to be okay with to

00:38:37.520 --> 00:38:40.957
suck in things. So, it's okay. Yes. I

00:38:41.040 --> 00:38:43.197
>> I suck at that of being right.

00:38:43.280 --> 00:38:45.917
>> Yeah. Yeah.
And we have all the love and

00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:47.677
compassion because it's that little girl

00:38:47.760 --> 00:38:50.717
who's still trying to run a 45year-old

00:38:50.800 --> 00:38:55.437
woman's life, which is adorable,
but it's it's completely powerless. It's

00:38:55.520 --> 00:38:58.877
completely ineffective. >> Absolutely.

00:38:58.960 --> 00:39:03.037
>> Yeah. How did we turn something
into what I thought? How did you turn

00:39:03.120 --> 00:39:05.437
something into what I thought? It'll be

00:39:05.520 --> 00:39:07.677
a tragic conversation in which I will

00:39:07.760 --> 00:39:10.717
not be able to like say anything into

00:39:10.800 --> 00:39:13.517
pure comedy. You're so talented.

00:39:13.600 --> 00:39:15.757
>> Well, thank you. That's what I do. I'm

00:39:15.840 --> 00:39:18.637
I'm just revealing the truth.

00:39:18.720 --> 00:39:20.957
>> Yeah. Okay.

00:39:21.040 --> 00:39:22.877
>> You've been living in a in a charade.

00:39:22.960 --> 00:39:26.077
You've been living in this this lie,

00:39:26.160 --> 00:39:29.357
this illusion of

00:39:29.440 --> 00:39:34.077
doom, not realizing
you're using the very same

00:39:34.160 --> 00:39:36.317
skills that I use, that I help the best,

00:39:36.400 --> 00:39:39.277
most incredible performers around the

00:39:39.360 --> 00:39:41.437
world to use the same faculty of

00:39:41.520 --> 00:39:44.877
imagination and possibility, but to

00:39:44.960 --> 00:39:50.397
create the things they want. Now, you've
got the most amazing abilities. You've

00:39:50.480 --> 00:39:53.917
just been using them
for your own detriment.

00:39:54.000 --> 00:39:57.117
>> So, the good news, >> yeah,
wonderful news. Well, the good

00:39:57.200 --> 00:40:01.037
news is with modern technology, you've
probably got at least another 45 years

00:40:01.120 --> 00:40:03.677
to go, you know. So, imagine what you

00:40:03.760 --> 00:40:06.957
can create. Imagine what kind of mom

00:40:07.040 --> 00:40:09.757
Alex now gets.

00:40:09.840 --> 00:40:14.397
>> The one he knows is there.
Cuz this kid,

00:40:14.480 --> 00:40:16.877
>> he told me yesterday
we went to buy some

00:40:16.960 --> 00:40:19.757
stuff for school and he goes, I was

00:40:19.840 --> 00:40:23.917
telling him like I think he's the only
person that I said that I will do the

00:40:24.000 --> 00:40:27.117
podcast and I was discussing. He's like,
"Mom, why are you absent? What's going

00:40:27.200 --> 00:40:28.957
on?" And I said, "Well, I'm a bit

00:40:29.040 --> 00:40:32.077
nervous." He said, "About what?" I said,

00:40:32.160 --> 00:40:36.157
"About podcast." He said, "Why?"

00:40:36.240 --> 00:40:40.317
I said, "I don't know, Alex. I'm just
nervous." And he said, "You're good at

00:40:40.400 --> 00:40:45.197
that stuff. You like talking about that
stuff, right?" And I'm like, "Yeah." So,

00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:48.797
I was trying to explain something to him.
And he goes, "So what you're

00:40:48.880 --> 00:40:51.917
telling me actually is what I'm hearing

00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:55.277
from you is that you're afraid to be

00:40:55.360 --> 00:40:56.957
happy."

00:40:57.040 --> 00:40:59.277
>> Mhm.

00:40:59.360 --> 00:41:03.517
>> And I said, "What
do you mean, Alex?" He

00:41:03.600 --> 00:41:07.197
says to me, "So you're kind of thinking

00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:09.757
if we are having fun

00:41:09.840 --> 00:41:12.237
that you can't have fun because

00:41:12.320 --> 00:41:14.557
something bad will happen

00:41:14.640 --> 00:41:17.757
>> if you have fun.

00:41:17.840 --> 00:41:20.317
I was like, "Yeah,

00:41:20.400 --> 00:41:22.317
this kid is just

00:41:22.400 --> 00:41:25.997
>> he's got your number.

00:41:26.080 --> 00:41:30.157
>> Not anymore. He's going to be like,
"Whoa, who are you? Where's my mom?"

00:41:30.240 --> 00:41:31.837
You're like, "I'm right here, fool.

00:41:31.920 --> 00:41:34.077
Let's go. Let's go have some fun."

00:41:34.160 --> 00:41:37.597
Right. >> Yeah. >> So, that's
one part of it, right? So, is

00:41:37.680 --> 00:41:42.317
it an absolute truth that
you're not going to be okay?

00:41:42.400 --> 00:41:45.917
>> No. >> No.
that was completely made up by your

00:41:46.000 --> 00:41:49.677
own nervous system for which we
understand and have compassion. But

00:41:49.760 --> 00:41:53.997
let's stop living in this fictitious
worst case scenario. Okay.

00:41:54.080 --> 00:41:57.277
>> Okay. >> Cuz you've
got four and a half decades

00:41:57.360 --> 00:42:00.717
now even through war of realizing the

00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:05.677
story that you're not going to be
okay just really doesn't hold anymore.

00:42:05.760 --> 00:42:09.837
>> Right. No. >> Okay.
So that's that's one part. Now the

00:42:09.920 --> 00:42:12.477
other part which you just sort of

00:42:12.560 --> 00:42:16.157
perhaps not coincidentally just said

00:42:16.240 --> 00:42:18.557
is what you think is going to happen.

00:42:18.640 --> 00:42:25.240
How how do you delineate what you think
is going to happen? It's going to be

00:42:25.520 --> 00:42:30.397
>> it's going to be bad. >> Exactly.
So again, so remember every

00:42:30.480 --> 00:42:32.237
human being is fundamentally using their

00:42:32.320 --> 00:42:35.117
imagination as a continuation of a

00:42:35.200 --> 00:42:37.517
history that has not yet been accepted.

00:42:37.600 --> 00:42:41.357
The imagination is used typically to

00:42:41.440 --> 00:42:43.677
perpetuate worst case scenarios, right?

00:42:43.760 --> 00:42:47.277
Especially if you've had a bad like
if someone's been in war like you, of

00:42:47.360 --> 00:42:50.077
course, then it's like you're going
to be looking out for war. If someone has

00:42:50.160 --> 00:42:53.837
been sadly hit or abused, they're going
to be looking for being hit and abused,

00:42:53.920 --> 00:42:57.597
right? That's the way that the brain,
which is designed to predict and

00:42:57.680 --> 00:43:00.637
protect, tries to keep you alive. But

00:43:00.720 --> 00:43:02.637
all it's actually doing is keeping your

00:43:02.720 --> 00:43:05.597
memory alive.

00:43:05.680 --> 00:43:10.717
Isn't that nuts? So is it
true that you're not going to

00:43:10.800 --> 00:43:13.837
be okay? >> No.

00:43:13.920 --> 00:43:15.997
>> And then as you relate to the future,

00:43:16.080 --> 00:43:18.637
you think what type of things are going

00:43:18.720 --> 00:43:23.437
to happen? >> Bad.
Bad things are going to happen.

00:43:23.520 --> 00:43:25.597
Right? So now let's just look at that.

00:43:25.680 --> 00:43:27.597
If you walk around thinking bad things

00:43:27.680 --> 00:43:29.757
are going to happen, how does that leave

00:43:29.840 --> 00:43:34.877
you feeling? >> Scared, anxious.

00:43:34.960 --> 00:43:39.037
>> Yeah. And then you're And then
the way that you adapt and cope

00:43:39.120 --> 00:43:42.557
is what? >> Hide.

00:43:42.640 --> 00:43:46.317
>> Hide. Control.
Try to figure out >> Yeah.

00:43:46.400 --> 00:43:50.557
>> A lot of control, right?
>> A lot of control. Absolutely.

00:43:50.640 --> 00:43:54.077
>> Okay. So, >> letting
go is not my my gem.

00:43:54.160 --> 00:43:55.997
>> No, it's exhausting.
That's why you wake

00:43:56.080 --> 00:43:58.717
up in the morning, you're tired before
you've even opened your eyes. Your

00:43:58.800 --> 00:44:01.517
nervous system is already oriented to

00:44:01.600 --> 00:44:06.317
looking out for worst case scenarios
before anything's even happened.

00:44:06.400 --> 00:44:08.237
And also it hasn't even had time to

00:44:08.320 --> 00:44:11.437
reconcile the the litany of like past

00:44:11.520 --> 00:44:13.997
days, weeks, months, and years that it's

00:44:14.080 --> 00:44:18.557
been in that state. It's just like
constantly in fight or flight. Right.

00:44:18.640 --> 00:44:21.357
>> Absolutely. >> So

00:44:21.440 --> 00:44:28.360
do you know that bad things are
going to happen categorically?

00:44:29.120 --> 00:44:31.917
>> No. >> No.
I know it's a big one for you. So

00:44:32.000 --> 00:44:34.157
listen, I'm going to take you even

00:44:34.240 --> 00:44:38.957
deeper. Okay. >> Would you
say that this conversation

00:44:39.040 --> 00:44:42.237
you're having with me
right now is powerful?

00:44:42.320 --> 00:44:45.357
>> Very much so. >> Would
you say that this conversation

00:44:45.440 --> 00:44:49.197
right now is and will change
the course of your life?

00:44:49.280 --> 00:44:52.077
>> Absolutely. >> Would you
say that this conversation

00:44:52.160 --> 00:44:54.317
you're having with right now makes you a

00:44:54.400 --> 00:44:57.357
much better mom for your beautiful son?

00:44:57.440 --> 00:44:59.277
>> Endlessly.

00:44:59.360 --> 00:45:04.557
Now, could all of that have happened,
meaning those three things I just said

00:45:04.640 --> 00:45:08.157
about, you know, better changing
your life, better mom, you know, this is

00:45:08.240 --> 00:45:10.397
powerful. Could that have happened if it

00:45:10.480 --> 00:45:16.077
weren't for what that
little girl went through?

00:45:16.160 --> 00:45:21.160
Gotcha. Got him.

00:45:22.640 --> 00:45:28.360
>> No. >> No. So therefore, was it bad?

00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:34.077
>> No. But it was scary. It's okay. It was

00:45:34.160 --> 00:45:38.237
really scary. But it was also
part of your journey. It

00:45:38.320 --> 00:45:42.637
was part of your karma to go through
that so that you right now with me get

00:45:42.720 --> 00:45:45.037
the living opportunity to step into the

00:45:45.120 --> 00:45:47.997
most extraordinary, joyous, fun, loving,

00:45:48.080 --> 00:45:50.477
happy mother. Not just for yourself, but

00:45:50.560 --> 00:45:55.197
for that beautiful boy.
And you wouldn't have known how to

00:45:55.280 --> 00:45:59.117
access this if it was all worth it.
I would go I would go through it all

00:45:59.200 --> 00:46:02.957
again. >> I know.
And that's how we sign up for

00:46:03.040 --> 00:46:07.277
this incarnation. You don't
remember these deals that you

00:46:07.360 --> 00:46:11.837
made, but you're here because you want
to experience this level of joy. And the

00:46:11.920 --> 00:46:16.077
only way you can really access this joy
is if you know you know that you can

00:46:16.160 --> 00:46:20.157
handle the worst because you already did.

00:46:20.240 --> 00:46:22.797
So, I'm going to phrase something
for you that I really want you to

00:46:22.880 --> 00:46:25.917
understand. There's no such thing as bad

00:46:26.000 --> 00:46:30.237
things happening.
There's just things happening.

00:46:30.320 --> 00:46:34.637
>> Yeah. >> We put good,
bad, right, wrong on top of

00:46:34.720 --> 00:46:38.237
life. But what I want
you to understand, Amra,

00:46:38.320 --> 00:46:42.957
is there's nothing you can't handle.
So, it's never bad. Are things going to

00:46:43.040 --> 00:46:46.957
happen in the future? Yes. That's all
that ever is going to happen. Things

00:46:47.040 --> 00:46:49.837
happening.

00:46:49.920 --> 00:46:52.157
you thinking they're bad, you labeling

00:46:52.240 --> 00:46:59.197
them, perceiving them, imagining them
as bad is what changes your state.

00:46:59.280 --> 00:47:03.357
But what would it be like for you
as a woman, as a mother, as a 45year-old

00:47:03.440 --> 00:47:07.597
being now who can look through the lens
of, "Yeah, things are going to happen

00:47:07.680 --> 00:47:14.040
and guess what? I'll deal with it."

00:47:15.120 --> 00:47:17.437
That's my dream. I don't know what other

00:47:17.520 --> 00:47:19.517
people are dreaming of. their cars,

00:47:19.600 --> 00:47:22.557
their apartments, their whatever. Man,

00:47:22.640 --> 00:47:26.557
they like they because my husband is into

00:47:26.640 --> 00:47:28.637
completely different things. But

00:47:28.720 --> 00:47:30.157
anyways,

00:47:30.240 --> 00:47:34.957
like that's my dream. Like honestly with

00:47:35.040 --> 00:47:36.557
1,000%

00:47:36.640 --> 00:47:39.037
is just

00:47:39.120 --> 00:47:42.157
not to see everything as tragedy. like

00:47:42.240 --> 00:47:44.397
the nervous system not to be so wired

00:47:44.480 --> 00:47:47.277
that every single little thing

00:47:47.360 --> 00:47:51.277
>> is like overwhelm. It's

00:47:51.360 --> 00:47:54.557
>> because it's not on the level of the

00:47:54.640 --> 00:47:58.717
being that you are from the spirit
that you see in the pure joy and bliss of

00:47:58.800 --> 00:48:00.797
your son even in Bosnia at a coffee shop

00:48:00.880 --> 00:48:04.477
or whatever like that joy is your nature

00:48:04.560 --> 00:48:08.157
and then outside of you in the
three-dimensional world that we call

00:48:08.240 --> 00:48:12.237
reality things are just always happening
and I'm not saying they're ideal there

00:48:12.320 --> 00:48:14.877
are some what seem to be horrific things

00:48:14.960 --> 00:48:19.357
that happen to humans you know really
on the on the scale of what can happen

00:48:19.440 --> 00:48:20.957
there's a lot. But there's also an

00:48:21.040 --> 00:48:23.597
immense amount of bliss and joy and good

00:48:23.680 --> 00:48:28.397
fortune. It's all just things happening.

00:48:28.480 --> 00:48:30.477
And I'm telling you, reminding you that

00:48:30.560 --> 00:48:33.757
there's nothing you can't handle. So

00:48:33.840 --> 00:48:35.997
then why would you have this tendency to

00:48:36.080 --> 00:48:38.957
constantly look for the bad? Because you

00:48:39.040 --> 00:48:44.920
think they're bad. No,
it's just things happening.

00:48:45.680 --> 00:48:48.637
>> Yeah. Do you see that's
an entirely different

00:48:48.720 --> 00:48:53.000
world to live in? >> Completely.

00:48:54.240 --> 00:48:56.077
>> And what comes to my mind when you say

00:48:56.160 --> 00:48:58.877
that is that I wouldn't call this

00:48:58.960 --> 00:49:01.997
similar. Alex and I are separate people

00:49:02.080 --> 00:49:06.397
from what and separate relationship
to what my mom had with me.

00:49:06.480 --> 00:49:06.957
>> Mhm.

00:49:07.040 --> 00:49:10.237
>> But I looked the way she lived.

00:49:10.320 --> 00:49:13.517
>> Mhm. for a very very very long time cuz

00:49:13.600 --> 00:49:18.077
she was my >> mother and father.
So for better for

00:49:18.160 --> 00:49:21.277
worse she did I know she
did the best she could.

00:49:21.360 --> 00:49:23.917
>> Yeah >> but there
was a lot of suffering. So now

00:49:24.000 --> 00:49:28.877
when you saying this previous uh
previous thing I just my mom is popping

00:49:28.960 --> 00:49:30.477
in my head

00:49:30.560 --> 00:49:32.957
>> and she suffered a lot. So I guess from

00:49:33.040 --> 00:49:35.917
very early age

00:49:36.000 --> 00:49:38.637
I thought that that's that's the default

00:49:38.720 --> 00:49:41.117
state because

00:49:41.200 --> 00:49:43.437
that's how you live.

00:49:43.520 --> 00:49:46.157
>> Well, here's here's the sad part. That

00:49:46.240 --> 00:49:49.917
is the default state of most humans.

00:49:50.000 --> 00:49:53.437
Even in the you know religion
of Buddhism, they say one of the noble

00:49:53.520 --> 00:49:58.237
truths to be human is to suffer. But
that's why when you very kindly earlier

00:49:58.320 --> 00:50:01.917
gave me the compliment of like
the talent I have to turn tragedy into

00:50:02.000 --> 00:50:04.477
comedy, you know, to turn grief into

00:50:04.560 --> 00:50:06.717
gratitude, which is what I do, is

00:50:06.800 --> 00:50:11.917
because that's called my 2.0 world. I'm
showing you the truth. Humans are stuck

00:50:12.000 --> 00:50:15.357
in the illusion of all their suffering
and their fear, the limitation of their

00:50:15.440 --> 00:50:17.437
subconscious, which creates all of their

00:50:17.520 --> 00:50:19.997
disease and their scarcity, which is

00:50:20.080 --> 00:50:23.517
suffering, but it's all made up.

00:50:23.600 --> 00:50:27.597
2.0 in our world is this new space
for humans to live in freedom, love,

00:50:27.680 --> 00:50:31.277
possibility, vitality, joy and abundance.

00:50:31.360 --> 00:50:33.837
>> But why we are not scared? So this is

00:50:33.920 --> 00:50:36.157
what what bugs me like now when you say

00:50:36.240 --> 00:50:39.197
it. So why am I scared of s why am I not

00:50:39.280 --> 00:50:41.117
scared of suffering? So I'm okay with

00:50:41.200 --> 00:50:46.717
suffering but I'm afraid to be in the
unknown that brings possibility. Like

00:50:46.800 --> 00:50:49.757
how? >> No, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no. Unknown

00:50:49.840 --> 00:50:51.837
doesn't bring anything.

00:50:51.920 --> 00:50:56.557
You are wired because of the 1.0 mindset

00:50:56.640 --> 00:50:58.717
is what I call it. The current default

00:50:58.800 --> 00:51:02.237
operating system of humanity right now.

00:51:02.320 --> 00:51:05.917
Everybody out there, all the war, all
the tragedy, all the corruption, all the

00:51:06.000 --> 00:51:08.717
abuse, all the horrific things that we

00:51:08.800 --> 00:51:10.557
see is because everyone's living on this

00:51:10.640 --> 00:51:14.397
old operating system. So uncertainty,

00:51:14.480 --> 00:51:16.797
yes, is pure possibility. It's all

00:51:16.880 --> 00:51:19.197
possibility. You saw that earlier. It's

00:51:19.280 --> 00:51:21.517
just the way you're currently wired is

00:51:21.600 --> 00:51:25.037
to put worstcase scenarios into

00:51:25.120 --> 00:51:28.077
uncertainty that creates your suffering.

00:51:28.160 --> 00:51:30.317
Do you see? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

00:51:30.400 --> 00:51:33.357
>> There's no suffering. People say,
"I'm scared of the unknown." No. No one's

00:51:33.440 --> 00:51:35.997
scared of the unknown >> because
it's unknown. How can you be

00:51:36.080 --> 00:51:37.917
scared of something that you don't know?

00:51:38.000 --> 00:51:39.517
>> Thank you very much for completing my

00:51:39.600 --> 00:51:41.917
sentence.

00:51:42.000 --> 00:51:45.677
>> Yeah. Now you just
scared to me. Just it

00:51:45.760 --> 00:51:49.677
just Yeah. Do you see?
It's so obvious once you see

00:51:49.760 --> 00:51:54.397
it. And yet now why I have compassion
and I tell people you can't be held

00:51:54.480 --> 00:51:58.077
accountable for that which you're
oblivious to. Meaning right now there

00:51:58.160 --> 00:52:02.797
are people drinking, smoking, cheating,
you know, lying. Like they're in

00:52:02.880 --> 00:52:04.957
suffering because they don't know what

00:52:05.040 --> 00:52:07.517
they don't know. It's not their fault.

00:52:07.600 --> 00:52:12.157
But you're waking up to this new 2.0
world. You get to be freedom. You're not

00:52:12.240 --> 00:52:16.077
just stepping into freedom.
You realize I am freedom.

00:52:16.160 --> 00:52:19.837
>> Yeah. See? Well, there
we we we're getting there.

00:52:19.920 --> 00:52:23.837
>> Um, >> that's never
been scared of the unknown.

00:52:23.920 --> 00:52:27.517
No, you've never been scared of the
unknown. Your current wiring, your

00:52:27.600 --> 00:52:30.957
programming, and your conditioning
through no fault of your own is being

00:52:31.040 --> 00:52:34.397
informed by a terrified little girl. But

00:52:34.480 --> 00:52:38.317
that has got nothing to do with today or

00:52:38.400 --> 00:52:41.437
yesterday or last year or last decade.

00:52:41.520 --> 00:52:43.677
But you were always being informed.

00:52:43.760 --> 00:52:46.637
That's why I had the quote, "Past hurt

00:52:46.720 --> 00:52:53.320
informs future fear."
But when were you in war?

00:52:53.440 --> 00:52:57.997
When were you actually in a war zone?

00:52:58.080 --> 00:53:00.957
>> 30 something years ago,
but it continued like

00:53:01.040 --> 00:53:03.517
>> No, no, no. I know.
So you, the you that

00:53:03.600 --> 00:53:07.117
I'm talking to right now, was never in a

00:53:07.200 --> 00:53:10.717
war zone. Ever.

00:53:10.800 --> 00:53:14.360
Just get that.

00:53:15.600 --> 00:53:18.557
you right now, not with the same body,

00:53:18.640 --> 00:53:23.597
the hair, the height, the experience,
the talent was never in

00:53:23.680 --> 00:53:25.757
a water. >> No.

00:53:25.840 --> 00:53:28.797
>> Do you see? You're just remembering.

00:53:28.880 --> 00:53:31.357
It's your memory that's upsetting you of

00:53:31.440 --> 00:53:34.477
a little girl who is still asking to be

00:53:34.560 --> 00:53:38.157
integrated. That's it. That's it. And

00:53:38.240 --> 00:53:40.797
you have created war for three and a

00:53:40.880 --> 00:53:44.477
half decades by yourself.

00:53:44.560 --> 00:53:47.517
And that's why we have war because again

00:53:47.600 --> 00:53:50.797
as my quote says, we'll never have peace

00:53:50.880 --> 00:53:56.040
as long as people are
at war within themselves.

00:53:57.040 --> 00:54:00.797
Yeah, this is powerful stuff.

00:54:00.880 --> 00:54:04.317
Isn't that crazy?

00:54:04.400 --> 00:54:08.797
All made up. Amra,

00:54:08.880 --> 00:54:11.037
that's the good news. Now the

00:54:11.120 --> 00:54:13.517
opportunity is to realize if you made if

00:54:13.600 --> 00:54:16.877
you made up that degree of suffering,

00:54:16.960 --> 00:54:19.357
tragedy, fear, terror, and war within

00:54:19.440 --> 00:54:25.480
yourself, imagine what
else you can make up.

00:54:26.080 --> 00:54:29.757
>> Did I say I'm scared to even
think what I can make up?

00:54:29.840 --> 00:54:33.917
>> Yeah. Well, that's just
your residual self-image

00:54:34.000 --> 00:54:35.677
because scared has been what defined

00:54:35.760 --> 00:54:38.637
you. But actually, it's power. Power is

00:54:38.720 --> 00:54:41.997
what you're tapping into.

00:54:42.080 --> 00:54:44.157
The power to be the most extraordinary,

00:54:44.240 --> 00:54:47.437
liberated, funloving, creative mother,

00:54:47.520 --> 00:54:51.400
woman, wife.

00:54:55.680 --> 00:54:58.477
Okay,

00:54:58.560 --> 00:55:01.357
that's pretty different, isn't it?

00:55:01.440 --> 00:55:07.400
Yeah. >> You ready to get busy living?

00:55:08.880 --> 00:55:11.757
>> I guess so.

00:55:11.840 --> 00:55:15.037
>> Well, that was convincing.

00:55:15.120 --> 00:55:16.957
It's okay. You got less than an hour

00:55:17.040 --> 00:55:19.757
against 35 years. I I I'll give you a

00:55:19.840 --> 00:55:22.237
little bit of time to figure it out.

00:55:22.320 --> 00:55:25.917
>> Yeah. Please be kind. Yeah. Um Yeah.

00:55:26.000 --> 00:55:30.600
>> Is it true that you're
not going to be okay?

00:55:31.280 --> 00:55:32.797
No.

00:55:32.880 --> 00:55:38.077
>> Is it true that bad things happen?

00:55:38.160 --> 00:55:41.517
>> No. >> No. What is the truth?

00:55:41.600 --> 00:55:45.597
>> Things happen. >> Things happen.
And sometimes they're not

00:55:45.680 --> 00:55:49.037
ideal. But guess what? You're
equipped apparently to deal with them.

00:55:49.120 --> 00:55:51.277
>> I can handle them. Apparently.

00:55:51.360 --> 00:55:53.997
>> Apparently you can.

00:55:54.080 --> 00:55:57.117
Do you just see how powerful that is?

00:55:57.200 --> 00:56:00.557
You just went from thinking there's
nothing you can handle and there's the

00:56:00.640 --> 00:56:03.757
boogie monster around every corner to

00:56:03.840 --> 00:56:07.117
like it should I feel your whole spine

00:56:07.200 --> 00:56:11.517
just changing right like this the posture
of who you are now as a woman as

00:56:11.600 --> 00:56:15.357
a mother you know yes your mother
was living in suffering because that's how

00:56:15.440 --> 00:56:18.797
humans are currently conditioned I
get it I have compassion I'm sorry that

00:56:18.880 --> 00:56:20.397
that's what you had to witness and what

00:56:20.480 --> 00:56:22.477
she went through but you're a different

00:56:22.560 --> 00:56:26.157
type of human being now you get to show

00:56:26.240 --> 00:56:30.077
your son, even though he's been the one
showing you what it is to live from a

00:56:30.160 --> 00:56:32.077
world of complete freedom, love,

00:56:32.160 --> 00:56:35.757
possibility, and power. What a gift to

00:56:35.840 --> 00:56:39.837
all of you. >> I know

00:56:39.920 --> 00:56:43.437
it's just now when you're saying that I'm
I'm just everything that I ever had

00:56:43.520 --> 00:56:46.717
in my mind is just stories and stories

00:56:46.800 --> 00:56:49.997
and they just stories, man. They just

00:56:50.080 --> 00:56:53.837
>> I know. Welcome to my
world and now why you can

00:56:53.920 --> 00:56:58.477
see what you call talent and why I'm
able to just help people completely free

00:56:58.560 --> 00:57:00.717
their minds. And that's why I created

00:57:00.800 --> 00:57:05.517
2.0 world. There's people just lining
up right now to join 2.0 world because

00:57:05.600 --> 00:57:09.117
these conversations will be happening
every day in the community. I'll be

00:57:09.200 --> 00:57:11.117
doing my monthly calls to help people

00:57:11.200 --> 00:57:16.840
step into a world of complete freedom.

00:57:17.360 --> 00:57:23.357
>> It's just Yeah. I did not think
this conversation will go this way.

00:57:23.440 --> 00:57:26.397
>> Like >> I know and that's
why I love what I get

00:57:26.480 --> 00:57:33.480
to do because you can't see beyond the
limits of your own current perspective.

00:57:34.480 --> 00:57:36.797
>> Welcome to a new world, my dear.

00:57:36.880 --> 00:57:40.957
Completely mindblowing. >> Yeah,

00:57:41.040 --> 00:57:43.677
>> it's a death. It's the most beautiful

00:57:43.760 --> 00:57:45.997
death. This is you now being born into

00:57:46.080 --> 00:57:48.717
your true divine natural state of

00:57:48.800 --> 00:57:53.197
freedom, love, possibility, power,

00:57:53.280 --> 00:57:57.357
and pure creativity, which is all you've
been doing. You You're just doing it

00:57:57.440 --> 00:58:01.117
unconsciously before. >> And the
funny thing, I'm looking at this

00:58:01.200 --> 00:58:05.437
beautiful look at my page like
of things that I wanted to ask.

00:58:05.520 --> 00:58:09.117
>> Yeah, it's all story. It all belongs
to the little girl and we love her. But I

00:58:09.200 --> 00:58:13.197
would ceremonially, with all due respect,
I would tear that page up. If

00:58:13.280 --> 00:58:17.197
you want to read it one more time,
>> this is I'm looking and there is some

00:58:17.280 --> 00:58:21.117
this is something that I've been holding
on for like forever. And I'm like, no,

00:58:21.200 --> 00:58:25.117
you have to ask about your dad. You have
to ask about this. You have to ask about

00:58:25.200 --> 00:58:29.357
that. And I'm like,
>> it's >> I don't give a damn.

00:58:29.440 --> 00:58:31.277
>> It's all garbage. With all due respect,

00:58:31.360 --> 00:58:34.797
it's all garbage. It's all old.

00:58:34.880 --> 00:58:38.397
So, I would invite you with your son to

00:58:38.480 --> 00:58:42.797
make it really powerful to let him know
you're right. I was scared to be happy

00:58:42.880 --> 00:58:46.717
because I was just scared. It didn't
matter. Fill in the blank. Scared to be

00:58:46.800 --> 00:58:51.277
wealthy, scared to be loved, scared
to be sexy, scared to I was just scared.

00:58:51.360 --> 00:58:55.117
And you can show him whatever you want
to show him, you know, the things you

00:58:55.200 --> 00:58:59.597
went through. And what a powerful ritual
for him to see that everything that

00:58:59.680 --> 00:59:02.077
happened in mommy's past is done. Why?

00:59:02.160 --> 00:59:06.717
Cuz it's in my past. But I've been
dragging it with me every day. And so

00:59:06.800 --> 00:59:09.757
whether you have a little fireplace
there or somewhere where you could just

00:59:09.840 --> 00:59:12.797
burn that and and let go and step into

00:59:12.880 --> 00:59:14.477
this entirely new world of pure

00:59:14.560 --> 00:59:18.077
possibility with him.

00:59:18.160 --> 00:59:20.717
Sound good?

00:59:20.800 --> 00:59:23.757
>> You Peter, I know you hear this many

00:59:23.840 --> 00:59:26.157
times, but I say it from the bottom of

00:59:26.240 --> 00:59:30.637
my heart. It's just pure magic.

00:59:30.720 --> 00:59:35.037
>> Abracadabra as I speak. So I create.

00:59:35.120 --> 00:59:39.037
Now you get to be a magician in your own
world. And I know every kid loves magic.

00:59:39.120 --> 00:59:41.357
So show your son some magic. As we

00:59:41.440 --> 00:59:43.517
speak, so we create. Speak some magic

00:59:43.600 --> 00:59:46.237
into your life.

00:59:46.320 --> 00:59:51.480
>> Deal. >> Deal.

00:59:52.240 --> 00:59:55.117
>> Welcome to 2.0. My my dear. This is

00:59:55.200 --> 00:59:57.917
>> I'm looking forward to looking I'm look

00:59:58.000 --> 01:00:01.517
looking back at that this podcast and

01:00:01.600 --> 01:00:04.797
I'm looking forward to seeing how what

01:00:04.880 --> 01:00:08.237
you did to me, you know, in a in a good

01:00:08.320 --> 01:00:13.117
way. You're like doom.
>> Let's just say we did it together. I

01:00:13.200 --> 01:00:15.757
couldn't have had this conversation
without you. I'd probably just

01:00:15.840 --> 01:00:20.200
>> We have done together breakfast.

01:00:20.480 --> 01:00:22.957
>> Yeah. Such a joy to be with you. you. I

01:00:23.040 --> 01:00:25.837
can see why you were the portal for such

01:00:25.920 --> 01:00:28.157
an extraordinary boy because you really

01:00:28.240 --> 01:00:30.637
are a gift and your nature is so

01:00:30.720 --> 01:00:33.597
playful. It's so fun and I really love

01:00:33.680 --> 01:00:37.757
that little girl who's been living
in fear and thinking that you had to keep

01:00:37.840 --> 01:00:39.757
looking out for her. But she's fine.

01:00:39.840 --> 01:00:42.477
She's she's she's with you and there's

01:00:42.560 --> 01:00:46.797
nothing to worry about because there's
nothing bad happens. There's just life

01:00:46.880 --> 01:00:50.477
happens and there's nothing that we
can't handle. Sometimes it's not ideal.

01:00:50.560 --> 01:00:52.717
Okay, fine. But there's always an

01:00:52.800 --> 01:00:55.837
opportunity in it.

01:00:55.920 --> 01:00:59.997
>> Beyond thank you, Peter. Like I just I

01:01:00.080 --> 01:01:03.517
I'm so happy that I didn't put my hand
up when I was in London because we

01:01:03.600 --> 01:01:06.957
probably wouldn't have enough time to

01:01:07.040 --> 01:01:11.037
>> Yeah. So, >> well,
next time I'm in London or

01:01:11.120 --> 01:01:14.557
wherever I have a live event and you
come along now, you're just going to be

01:01:14.640 --> 01:01:18.317
sitting there beaming with joy
and whooping and aaring and screaming and

01:01:18.400 --> 01:01:21.677
not thinking there's anything wrong
with you. and you'll be able to help me

01:01:21.760 --> 01:01:25.677
energetically to support the people who
are still stuck in the 1.0 world when I

01:01:25.760 --> 01:01:29.517
speak to them and you'll be like,
"Oh my god, they don't they don't get it.

01:01:29.600 --> 01:01:34.397
They're still looking through the lens
of limitation, fear, and suffering." And

01:01:34.480 --> 01:01:36.957
that >> time I was like that.

01:01:37.040 --> 01:01:41.757
>> Yeah. And that's why we have compassion
for each other. Everyone's doing the

01:01:41.840 --> 01:01:46.077
best they can within the limits of their
current awareness. But boy am I ready to

01:01:46.160 --> 01:01:48.237
help people wake up to a new world.

01:01:48.320 --> 01:01:51.517
>> My god. and you do
it so beautifully for

01:01:51.600 --> 01:01:57.197
me because I've been following
your work I think since 2022.

01:01:57.280 --> 01:01:58.157
>> Mhm.

01:01:58.240 --> 01:02:02.877
>> You are such a genuine safe place.

01:02:02.960 --> 01:02:04.397
>> Thank you. That means a lot,

01:02:04.480 --> 01:02:07.357
>> you know. Oh, really? It's just and to

01:02:07.440 --> 01:02:10.717
come from me who never felt ever before

01:02:10.800 --> 01:02:15.517
safe. It's just

01:02:15.600 --> 01:02:19.037
>> Yeah. Thank you. >> Thank you so much.

01:02:19.120 --> 01:02:22.397
I just want to let you know,

01:02:22.480 --> 01:02:26.317
not only did your son just get a new
mother, ironically, the one he's always

01:02:26.400 --> 01:02:29.277
known as there, but

01:02:29.360 --> 01:02:34.237
what's so beautiful is you get
to amplify his possibility now, right?

01:02:34.320 --> 01:02:37.517
Because eventually it would have worn
on him just like your mom through no fault

01:02:37.600 --> 01:02:38.397
of her own.

01:02:38.480 --> 01:02:41.357
>> Exactly. Exactly. That's the video. I

01:02:41.440 --> 01:02:45.037
guess I had that moment of like I don't

01:02:45.120 --> 01:02:49.197
know like my mind opened and I
said I can't do that to him

01:02:49.280 --> 01:02:49.517
>> right

01:02:49.600 --> 01:02:54.557
>> like I'm responsible
to take my crap and

01:02:54.640 --> 01:02:59.517
deal with it and let it go >> cuz

01:02:59.600 --> 01:03:02.797
Yeah. >> And listen listen
I'm just going to just

01:03:02.880 --> 01:03:06.557
adjust it slightly. It's not crap.
It's beautiful. It's part of the human

01:03:06.640 --> 01:03:09.357
condition. That that little girl being

01:03:09.440 --> 01:03:13.597
scared is not crap. It's totally
appropriate. We love her. We want to We

01:03:13.680 --> 01:03:16.237
want to understand her reality because

01:03:16.320 --> 01:03:19.277
the integration is the removal of the

01:03:19.360 --> 01:03:23.997
suffering. It's okay. That was really
scary. But you've been doing that to

01:03:24.080 --> 01:03:27.997
yourself for over three and a half
decades, right? So, not only does your

01:03:28.080 --> 01:03:30.877
son today, as of today, it's official,

01:03:30.960 --> 01:03:34.157
he has a I can't wait to see what you

01:03:34.240 --> 01:03:38.557
guys create together with this new
mom that he has. But what I wanted to

01:03:38.640 --> 01:03:43.117
acknowledge you for Amra is the courage
that it takes for somebody with such a

01:03:43.200 --> 01:03:45.197
story of fear to spend time like this

01:03:45.280 --> 01:03:48.397
with me knowing

01:03:48.480 --> 01:03:51.517
that you know this is now going to

01:03:51.600 --> 01:03:55.437
probably touch the lives of millions
of people who are in their own world of

01:03:55.520 --> 01:03:59.677
suffering but not anymore because
of this conversation. So I just wanted to

01:03:59.760 --> 01:04:04.077
say thank you for the gift that your
story is. Not only therefore is it not

01:04:04.160 --> 01:04:08.477
bad, what you've actually done through
your ability, through your courage to go

01:04:08.560 --> 01:04:12.317
through war to cross enemy lines,
in this case the enemy lines was your own

01:04:12.400 --> 01:04:15.117
imagination, but now you just gifted

01:04:15.200 --> 01:04:17.597
millions of people the opportunity to

01:04:17.680 --> 01:04:21.037
overcome their own war within. What a

01:04:21.120 --> 01:04:25.517
gift. >> I feel so blessed
to be able to do that

01:04:25.600 --> 01:04:29.597
with you. It's unbelievable.

01:04:29.680 --> 01:04:33.757
>> Yeah. Thank you. Thank you for having
the courage to go through what you went

01:04:33.840 --> 01:04:38.877
through so that you could through your
own story help liberate other people to

01:04:38.960 --> 01:04:40.717
overcome their own version of war.

01:04:40.800 --> 01:04:41.997
Whatever it is that they went through.

01:04:42.080 --> 01:04:45.677
It might not have been an actual war.
It might have been a household where the

01:04:45.760 --> 01:04:48.477
parents screamed. It might have been
physical abuse. It might have been

01:04:48.560 --> 01:04:52.317
emotional abuse. God forbid sexual abuse.
But they've been living in war

01:04:52.400 --> 01:04:56.397
for decades like you. And now
they don't have to do that anymore.

01:04:56.480 --> 01:05:00.397
So, thank you for letting me hold
space so that you could end the war and

01:05:00.480 --> 01:05:04.557
discover true peace, which is your nature,
so that millions of other people

01:05:04.640 --> 01:05:07.117
around the world could do the same. And

01:05:07.200 --> 01:05:09.757
ultimately, as my podcast is called,

01:05:09.840 --> 01:05:15.680
find freedom. >> Thank you so much, Peter.