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Hi, this is Peter Cone and you're

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listening to finding freedom. In this

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episode, which is a big wow. I just

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worked with Amra and I feel this is going
to touch the lives of millions of

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people because really she's speaking
from what I consider to be the default

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1.0 mindset of humans, which is to be

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living in fear and suffering. And she

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had very good reason to. born in Bosnia,
lived through the war as a little girl,

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and unbeknownst to herself for three and
a half decades, has still been living in

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war, but just inside of her nervous

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system. If you in any way are holding on

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to a history that still leaves you
feeling scared and sometimes in terror,

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this episode is for you. I hope you get
to discover what she got to discover.

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for a world of complete freedom, love,
pure possibility, and absolute joy on

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the other side of the limits that have

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been defining you. Welcome to 2.0 world.

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Welcome to finding freedom.
>> And I did see you in London. I came to

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event in London. >> Did you enjoy that?

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>> Oh, that was so amazing.
the energy like

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what I enjoy what I realized after the

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event finished is that the the

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collective energy in the
room is just unbelievable.

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>> So are you based in the UK then?

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>> No, no, no, no. I'm based in Romania.

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>> Okay. >> I live in Romania
at the moment with my

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husband and my son. He's 12. >> Yeah.

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>> Uh he better not hear me.
I say that he's 12. He's turning 13.

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>> Oh, okay. It's important for him.

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>> It's very important. It's a big deal.

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Uh, but originally I'm
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>> Okay. So, you submitted a video
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which is okay. That's fine. Um, but it

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it plagues your life in terms of checking
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do things. Like, explain a little bit

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more of how it sort of seems to have

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control over your life.

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>> It's just overwhelming. Paralyzing is
the word. Like how many times can you go

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out of the house

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>> and check the stove? Like I even tell

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myself for example like you switched it

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off, do not come back, you know, and I

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just keep on coming back. Um the doors

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at night um the fear that somebody will

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come in and the fears go like take my

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child away. um all these kind of crazy I

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thought I was watching too many movies

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but then I realized that actually when I

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I did a lot of work over the years my

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life was kind of like a movie you know I

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live some of the things that were in a

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movie so I guess when now the life is

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kind of stressful I guess the old things

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and patterns come back so it's just

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paralyzing I would have a simple thing

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to do for example I don't know write an

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email, a simple email. I would

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procrastinate. I would freeze. I would

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stay for hours just not doing that.

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>> It's I don't know. The word is

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paralyzing. I think I like Yeah,

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>> I get it. It's okay. It's okay. So,
you're in a safe space. I have no doubt

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that we're going to be able to get
beyond this. Uh and I can probably make

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some pretty accurate guesses as to where
it came from, but I'd like to hear from

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you. um especially given where
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>> I even wrote if I sorry to interrupt

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like I even wrote if I get to freeze I

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wrote do not skip these words you know
just say them out so I'll just keep them

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here you know just >> fine no
you you're well prepared I'm I I

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appreciate that both for yourself for

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your own comfort and also to help me

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help you. Um, so tell me, so tell me

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about your upbringing, your childhood. I

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can guess some of it based on where
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past hurt informs future fear, right? So

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typically the things that we're scared

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of and fear is as a byproduct of the way

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that we have experienced life as a

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child, the things that we went through.

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So I'm sure you've got plenty to share.

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I was listening some of your podcasts

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before I got to talk to you and um you

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was saying something about stories that

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we just make them up and I was like will

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I share my story because then in the
background I feel like cuz you were

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talking something about victimhood and

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stuff and that's why for many many many

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years I didn't choose to share my story

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because there are so many
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>> but it was very overwhelming.

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Um I was 11 or 11 and a half
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surprise. It was overnight. On Friday I

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went to school and on Monday all the

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shops were robbed. My brother's best

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friend would sniper in our living room.

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>> just very very overwhelming. And as
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to actually understand what was

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happening which was a good thing in a

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way. But then as I grew up and I became

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aware of certain things and I matured, I

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actually realized and I kept on going
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to to the story.

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>> Um I did have a lot
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understand what happened and try to

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understand that this is past but I never

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ever managed to to accept it,

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acknowledged it and just move on. That's

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what I That's what I realized. We were

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in a war for maybe a year and then

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because my grandparents and my brother
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occupied, we didn't have
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or not living. So, when we realized we

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got a red cross letter that they kind of

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alive, then we wanted to get out uh from

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the city. And by that time, at the end

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of the 92, not a fly could get out

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except special convoys.

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And my dad stayed cuz he was military
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>> Mhm. >> And he didn't
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then my mom and I decided to leave. And

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um so we did, but we couldn't get out as

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ourselves. So, we had to have fake IDs.

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and stuff and go through enemies lines

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and snipers and all that stuff.
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needless to say complicated.

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>> Yeah, it's okay. I mean, the word that

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comes to mind, especially through the

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eyes and senses of a child, is it's

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terrifying. You know, that's what I

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still feel is in your nervous
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>> Absolutely. And that actually started

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coming up when I had my child.

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>> Mhm. >> And as Alex
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started asking questions. Um my mom

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unfortunately passed away two and a half

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years ago. I'll also get to that. But he

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was very connected to my mom and we we

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visited a lot of times. So we never

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discussed we're not a family who kind
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things. We never did.
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>> sit him down and say this is what
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and as he was growing up and asking

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questions. I was telling him few things

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of course modified versions of it what

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he could um handle. But as he was

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getting to the age that I was when that

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happened, which is kind of around this

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time, these fears just
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>> just teleported back to the time and

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yeah, I tried journaling, I tried
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>> I I tried it,
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writing, journaling did hap did um help

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in a way because I kind of left it
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kind of never allowed or they were
not politically correct to say.

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>> Okay. >> So I just like
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least it felt like somebody heard.

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>> Yeah. >> You know,
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>> Yeah. No, I get it. It's okay.
Like all of us, whatever it is that we go

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through, your nervous system is going
to react and respond according to the

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circumstance. Right? The thing is now

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how you're um how old are you now? 40

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>> in my son's language. Yeah.

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>> Yeah. Almost 4. Yeah.
For him, he's almost 13. Almost

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>> almost. >> Yeah. Exactly.
Okay. So, 45 almost 46.

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obviously are predominantly you know um

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about 30 plus years ago right when

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>> I'm carrying that I'm carrying that

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stuff for 30 years I mean

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>> yeah it's okay it's okay so the first

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thing I want you to do is just be okay

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with it right meaning like because what

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I hear is one there's the discomfort
of having the fear that's not fun as you

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said having to go back can check
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other things that drive you almost like

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an OCD kind of behavior, right?

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resistance to it. You've got
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right now like was in any kind of scary

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situation, god forbid a war, and he was

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terrified, would you judge him for it?

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>> No way. No way.
You love him. And Right.

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start to see, oh, hang on a minute. Your

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nervous system is still being dictated

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and run by a scared little girl, and

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then you're making her wrong for that,

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little cute little adorable daughter

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who's going through this terrifying war

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and you're saying no, you shouldn't have
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for feeling scared.
You wouldn't do that, would you?

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>> No way. >> So if you
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all, how does that hit your body?
If you could just allow knowing that your

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nervous system There you go. That's a

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little softer breath, right?

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Uh how would that feel? If you could
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It's okay that you still got all
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myself. I'm so okay of not judging

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others and giving space to them. I love
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like >> Yeah. But it feels very nice.

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>> Yeah. >> Softer, right? >> Softer.
Yeah. It's like I see you type

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of a thing. >> Like I see
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be scared. >> There you go.
There you go. Like I use

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many terms and expressions and quotes
as you know and I say the ego which is

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really what we're dealing with here
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be held.

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So I want you to consider your first

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barrier to freedom has
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but it's that you've been
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because you're like, "Well, yeah, duh.
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my son when he gets scared. I keep on

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telling him, "Alex, it's okay. We just

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need to learn how to be comfortable
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So you're teaching the right things

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but it's easy as you said to see things
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maybe not so much for ourselves. So

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first of all it's okay.

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>> Yeah. >> For now just
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I'm not saying we want it to stay
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>> Sure. >> Yeah.
It's called being human, right?

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feel in your body, if you could just

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with me make space for whatever it is

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you experience, in this case, you know,

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terror, fear, panic,

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can you see that that allows your body

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just to soften it a little bit?

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>> Yeah. I still feel it, but the body is

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like, "It's okay. It's okay."

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>> It's okay, isn't it? >> Well,
let me see. What's What's one of

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the most joyous things about your son? Is
it when he gets up in the morning and you

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see his cute little face?
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he when he wakes up in the morning and

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the first morning cuddles, it's just

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nothing replaces that.

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So, first of all, reading minds is part

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of my occupation, but secondly, yes, it

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sounds it sounds delightful. So, when

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you have your morning cuddles with him,

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are you trying to get rid of that

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sensation that you have with him?

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>> Oh, no. I'm like

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absorbing it. It's like

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>> my I'm there. I'm really there. fully

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present, enjoying every
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>> Yeah. >> Yeah.
I can see it can almost bring you

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to tears. So now listen, on the spectrum

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of what it is to be a human, Amra, we go

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from all the way out to hopefully bliss

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and this divine experience of love and
connection, intimacy, affinity that you

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experience with your son in the morning
cuddles. That's one end of the spectrum.

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And the other end of the spectrum,
we could call absolute panic and terror,

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dread.

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But here's the thing. They all belong to

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the human scale of emotion.

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And what you're saying is, I just want the
good stuff. I don't want the other stuff.

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>> I think I'm saying I can't handle other

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stuff.

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>> I know. I know. But why is that a lie?

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Why is it a lie that you can't handle it?

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>> Cuz I handled so much.

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>> Yeah, you're here. You handled way more

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as a child. Like now you're in Romania.

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You're in your home. You're not in war

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zones. You're not having to make fake

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IDs to get past enemy lines. You know,
the worst thing you have to do is go

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back in the house and see if the stove

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is still on.

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>> It's not It's not that tragic, right?

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>> Yeah. Correct.
I see what you mean. Like

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on a conscious level, I see it. And when

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you say it like that,
it sounds >> funny. Um

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>> I like to bring as much comedy to my

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work as possible. Yes.

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>> Yeah. It just it's funny. Um but yeah,

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but yet here we are. >> No,
I know you're doing great. Just

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stick with me. I work in mysterious ways.
Okay. So, like you're already

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starting to feel soft. I'm explaining
to you. Yes. Consciously, logically, you

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understand. Oh, hang on a minute.
I'm human. As a human, I have the gamut of

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of emotions. Meaning, I have the full
spectrum of feelings available to me.

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joy of being human. Part of the joy of

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being human is that we get to feel

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anything. Just that we get to feel.

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You're alive.

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Think about it this way. If you now
as a welly, you know, aabled human, as a

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woman, if one of your arms, let's say
your dominant arm, your right arm, was

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always numb. You couldn't feel it.
You didn't even know if you had one.

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Would that be a fun way
to go around your life?

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>> No. >> No. So,
it's there, but it's numb,

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right? You don't want to feel it.
So, consider that anatomically as the

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equivalent of your emotions. You're
saying, "Well, my emotions are fear and

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terror there, but I don't want to feel
them." It's like you're trying to cut

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them off, >> right? Okay. >> Do you see?

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>> Yeah. >> You're starting to become more

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expansive, right? You're making space.

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>> Yeah. I'm not allowing them.

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>> Pardon? >> I'm not allowing them.

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>> Yes. And >> I'm just
saying I just want these. I

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don't want those.

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>> Exactly. And right now, what you just

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said with that big exhale is such a gift

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to yourself and everyone listening.
Cuz I promise you, everyone listening does

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the same. They don't want to feel bad.

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They don't want to feel scared. They
don't want to feel ugly. They don't want

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to feel tired. They don't want to feel
any of the negative stuff, but yeah,

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give me more of the positive stuff.

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Here's the rub. Human existence doesn't

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work like that. So you, what you just

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said was so accurate. You don't want
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terror. I want you to consider Amra,
it's not the fear and the terror that

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are bothering you. It's your resistance

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to them that is creating the suffering.

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And say that again. It's not the fear

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that is bothering you. It's the fact

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that you don't want to have it.

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>> I get it. >> And what I'm
saying is it's not that you

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can't handle the fear. You're a big
enough human being that you can handle

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all of it. That's how you're actually

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designed to have those feelings.

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And here's the beautiful thing. As soon

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as, now listen, as soon as you make

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space for the fear and the terror, what

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do you think happens to the fear and the

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terror?

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>> Yeah. They just have their voice and

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then they just go. >> They go.
They're just It's just look at

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it this way. If you were in your house
as you are, but let's say you're in the

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kitchen and your son comes in

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and he wants mommy's attention cuz he

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loves mommy, right? And he's like
dragging uh your pants, pulling your,

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you know, your skirt like mommy, mommy,
mommy, mommy, mommy, mommy. And you keep

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ignoring him. Not only do you keep

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ignoring him, you keep pushing him away.

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>> Yikes. He keeps on coming back.
I promise you.

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>> I promise you. Just like your fear and

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terror. Correct?

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>> Because what does he want? >> He
wants to be held. He wants attention.

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He wants that hug.

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>> And so, listen, my dear, that's all
your fear and terror are asking for.

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>> Oh, yeah. We're getting different
respiratory patterns already. Can you

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feel that? >> Yeah. >> Your fear
is not a problem. It's asking

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to be integrated as part of your
experience. That little girl, I don't

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say this to be melodramatic, but that
little girl is still there in Bosnia.

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She's scared. She's asking for you to

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pick her up and say, "I've got you."

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>> Every time I land there, every time I

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land that airport, like it's like the

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only way I can feel joy when I'm there

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is through my son's eyes because he's so

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excited for some reason. Actually now

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when you explained what you explained I

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think he's teaching me a lot of things

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but the joy that he has when he lands

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there you know the food

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um his pies his coffee places like he

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completely designed the ecosystem

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when he's there and he thoroughly enjoys

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it and he's very he's very sensitive in

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a sense that he's an empath. >> Yeah.

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>> Wonder why.
But anyways, he's an empath.

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So, he does understand what happened

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there. He would feel um some heaviness,

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but for him, it's like he knows how to

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process it. He's like, I acknowledge it,
but I'm still able to enjoy this place.

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>> Yeah.

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>> And I'm like,
let's get out of here. But

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then because he wants it, he wants to

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enjoy so badly, then I just get carried

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away with his joy. So I'm just

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>> joyful with him when we are there.

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>> I love it. And there's no doubt that
he and you have a soul contract so that

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he's here to help you just as you are
to help him. But so I want you to be able

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to see the distinction between the wise,
right? So meaning why does he have that

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experience versus yours? And there's two

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words. He looks through the eyes of

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possibility. It's all possible. It's

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pure joy, pure excitement. You're
looking through the eyes of probability.

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You see the difference? Your your

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current nervous system is wired. It's

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not accurate, but it is understandable
for which we have compassion. You're

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looking through the eyes of probability,
meaning what's probable to your nervous

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system that might happen.

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>> Correct?
which is just an extension of a

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history that's got nothing to do with

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today. So, number one, we want to make
space for that scared little girl. We

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love her. She's terrified and she's
asking for you to include her. Right.

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You You just became a mother
of two. Is that all right?

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>> It's okay. I always
wanted a little girl also.

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>> Well, she's there right there with you.

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>> There we go. >> She's just
been asking to be included.

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You've just been pushing her away
for 30 something years, right?

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>> I'm sorry. Yeah, >> it's okay.
Yeah, she's adorable. She's

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just really terrified. So, that's number
one. We're not trying to get rid of it,

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which is all you've been doing for three
and a half decades. We're actually

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saying, "No, there's space for you. You

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can come with us. I've got you. You're
in a safe space now." Right? Do you feel

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the difference? It's completely
the opposite. One is denial, dismissal,

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saying, "I'm you're not wanted here."

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And the other is like,
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>> Okay. Number one. >> Number
two, we now want to understand

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the mechanics of the probability mindset

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you're looking through. So, what did

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that little girl learn

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about the future? How is she oriented?

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What is the way that she perceives what

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might happen?

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>> That she will definitely not be okay.

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>> Definitely not be okay. Right? That's
the way that she relates to herself,

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which is terror. So you may have
heard me use that as one of the primal

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prisons, right? There's these 10 prisons
that we all have. And the default one

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that humans have as it relates to the
future is looking through a lens. It's

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not a truth. You're looking through
a lens that I'm not going to be okay. So

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now I want you to consider that that
little girl that Friday she came home

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and war was on Sunday. Like literally

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boom, just happened. Of course, it makes

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total sense that she's going to fear not

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being okay. Do you see that?

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>> Yeah. And it it's like I'm always

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expecting something to happen.

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>> Oh, that I understand. That's the other
part. That's the probability, right? I

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said, what your eyes of your son,
he's looking through the lens of what?

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>> Uh possibility.
>> And you're looking through the lens of

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>> probability.

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That's the expectation, right? He

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doesn't have a future. And so, he is

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purely curious, which is the nature of

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consciousness itself. We're here to

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explore our own potentiality and the

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experience of what it is to be a human.

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That is actually a joyous adventure.

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It's exploration. He's exploring. You're

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seeking. But what you're seeking for is

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evidence for your nervous system to be

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right. that there's reason for you to be

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scared. Do you see the difference?

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What is the truth, Armor, about the future
in terms of what you know? Do you

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absolutely >> have no clue?

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>> You're [__] clueless. Right. Right.

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No clue. Now, let's use that logic and
integrate it because your nervous system

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thinks it knows what's going to happen
and it's clearly not going to be good.

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Do you see? >> Yeah. >> He's 12.
He's a kid. He doesn't have

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enough experience to worry about
the future yet. Okay, we could argue, of

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course, you were 11, you know, so things
can happen to children who are much

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younger and they start to develop
a relationship to the future of fear. He's

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clearly not there, which speaks volumes
about you as a mom and the space you've

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created for him >> to keep
him open and allow him to be in

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curiosity, exploration, adventure,

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right? Pure possibility. Now, that is

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where your little girl started. So,
we just want to let her know it's okay to

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go back there, right? We just want
to do it very carefully. So, yes, you're

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looking through the lens
of you're not going to be okay.

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How do we know that? That view that

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you're not going to be okay is also a lie.

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>> It's been there for 30 something years.

475
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,637
34 years. I'm here. I mean, I always

476
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,477
thought I would not be okay
and I'm here talking to you.

477
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,277
>> You made it.

478
00:26:13,360 --> 00:26:16,077
It's pretty good evidence, right? So, so

479
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:17,597
you got to start. This is where it

480
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,477
becomes comedic, right? You got three

481
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:25,677
and a half decades with all the love
and compassion and understanding of why

482
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,117
looking through a lens that you're not
going to be okay. And yet here you sit

483
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:33,117
with a beautiful son, a husband
who apparently loves you, and the

484
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:37,757
opportunity to break free talking
to Peter Cone. Not only are you not not

485
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,397
going to be okay, life seems
pretty damn good. Honestly,

486
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,237
>> I hit a jackpot.

487
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,517
>> You hit the [__] jackpot,

488
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:49,277
right? So, you might want to start
to realize that your view of life isn't

489
00:26:49,360 --> 00:26:53,037
that accurate. >> Correct.

490
00:26:53,120 --> 00:26:56,957
>> Okay. So, let's do number one. And you
know, you may have heard me or seen me

491
00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:01,437
do this exercise before, but if I were
to cut you open, Amra, am I going to

492
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:05,757
find a physical manufacturing label made
of wood, metal, plastic inside of you,

493
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:10,077
says Amra, born in Bosnia,
she's not going to be okay?

494
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:14,157
>> No. >> No, I'm not.
Right. So, where, cuz it

495
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,997
does define you and it causes you to go
back in the house three, five, seven

496
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:23,117
times to check the stove or whatever it
is. Where does I'm not going to be okay

497
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,957
live? >> In my beautiful, beautiful, very

498
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,957
stubborn mind. >> Yeah.
Very stubborn, very imaginative,

499
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,517
very convincing.

500
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,517
Yes. Yes. Very realistic mind. And it is

501
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,917
real. But the difference is it's not

502
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:45,320
true. >> Things can.

503
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:50,237
>> Okay. >> Yeah.
So if it's just in your mind, I

504
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:54,157
have all the love and compassion.
It is a reality. Human beings are defined

505
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:59,037
entirely by their view of life.
And to them, their view feels real.

506
00:27:59,120 --> 00:28:03,117
>> Yes. >> It's very real.
>> But you now at this point, if I was

507
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,877
talking to you as a 12y old, it might
be much harder because it's very new and

508
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,677
you're still in it. But as a 45year-old,

509
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,557
soon to be 46,

510
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,717
let's keep your son's uh your

511
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,597
distinctions of age alive for him.

512
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,237
is, you know, it just isn't it just

513
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,757
isn't close to a truth anymore.

514
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,597
You've got three and a half decades
of evidence. Yeah. Notwithstanding the

515
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:31,437
normal things of being human where you
stub your toe or god forbid maybe you

516
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,357
did a little light on or you know [__]
that we do as humans. But you're going

517
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:40,077
to be okay because we know you are
because you're right there in front of me,

518
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:44,317
>> right? >> So if it's
just a p perspective, which

519
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,557
is all it is, it's just a view. It's
a story that you're not going to be okay.

520
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:52,637
Is it an absolute truth that
you're not going to be okay?

521
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,877
>> No. >> No. Now,
stay with me. You're doing

522
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:01,117
great. So, we want to first look at the
dissolution of it. I'm not going to say

523
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,197
you're going to be okay, but I guarantee

524
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:08,077
you absolutely 100% you're not not going

525
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:12,557
to be okay. You're not
not going to be okay.

526
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:16,477
Meaning, we remove it. It's not a truth
anymore. It's a lens you've been looking

527
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:20,077
through which was totally appropriate
for the scared little girl but

528
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,157
completely inappropriate for a grown

529
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:26,077
woman. So if that's gone just just as

530
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:30,717
best as you can feel into your body
you can't anymore look through the lie

531
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,317
because that's all it is that you're not

532
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,637
going to be okay. How does that feel?

533
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,797
What becomes available for you?

534
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,880
>> Everything.

535
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:43,997
just waking up in the morning and not

536
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,997
being tired of that weight.

537
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,437
>> Yeah. >> You know,
and I didn't even open my eyes

538
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,037
and it's already heavy. >> Yeah.

539
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,757
>> Just Yeah.

540
00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,277
>> Freedom.

541
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:03,037
>> Just even allowing myself

542
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,677
to feel the possibility

543
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:12,600
of something being okay.
>> Yeah. What would that be like?

544
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:21,480
I can't describe. It would just be

545
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,077
>> like morning snuggles.

546
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,277
>> Yeah. No. Yeah, it Yeah. No, I I don't

547
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:31,037
know if it can be that

548
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,477
close. Give me a close.
>> Close. Very close.

549
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:41,240
>> Yeah. >> Very close. It's just Yeah.

550
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:45,437
I'm very stubborn. I am very >> No,
you're not. You're not. Careful.

551
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,197
Careful. You're not stubborn. You're

552
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,397
freedom looking through a stubborn

553
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:54,637
convincing lens which is not a truth. We

554
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,197
don't want to keep reinforcing a lie.

555
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,997
You're not stubborn. You are joy. You

556
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,517
are freedom. You are love.

557
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,517
You are curiosity.

558
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:09,517
You are p pure play. That's your nature.

559
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:15,037
You've become confused
with your perspective.

560
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,077
Do you see the difference? >> I do. I do.

561
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,717
>> So, is it true that you're stubborn?

562
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,757
>> No. >> No. >> Which is my lens?

563
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:28,397
>> Exactly. Now, that we can do
something about. See, if you're stubborn,

564
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,917
then you wouldn't even have morning
snuggles. See, this is where the

565
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:36,717
evidence falls apart. That snuggles that
you have with your beautiful son, Alex,

566
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,397
has got nothing to do with somebody

567
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:43,837
whose system is really stubborn. You're
playful. You're joyous. You're you're

568
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:48,957
laughing. You're crying.
You're tickling. You're in heaven. Right.

569
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,597
>> Right. >> And that you
said you could take more

570
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,437
of. Why? Because that's your nature.

571
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,797
There's a difference between what
is natural and what has become normal for

572
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,037
you. It is not natural for somebody to

573
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,117
go and check the stove three, five, six

574
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:08,077
times. That's not natural. That's normal
because of the lens that you've been

575
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,237
looking through.
Do you see the difference?

576
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,117
>> Absolutely. >> Good.
Because the more you understand

577
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:17,437
it, the more you're going to let go
of what has become normal and reside in

578
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,517
your natural, which is what

579
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,717
>> I will stop judging myself.

580
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:27,757
>> Yeah. Yes. Judging yourself
is equally normal. It's

581
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,877
very normal. you go out there in the
world. I mean, people judge each other

582
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,557
themselves all day. That's very normal.

583
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,957
It's very ordinary. I'm not interested
in that. I'm in or I'm interested in the

584
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:38,877
extraordinary

585
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,317
recognizing, oh, I I once was a little

586
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,477
girl and her nervous system lives on in

587
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,757
me and she's still trying to protect

588
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,837
herself, but she doesn't need to. I've

589
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,477
got it. It's okay.

590
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:57,597
We're not not going to be okay. And how
do we know that? Because the future's

591
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,277
unknown. And that's why through your

592
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,677
son's eyes, he's teaching you the joy of

593
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:07,037
the unknown, the pure
possibility of uncertainty.

594
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:11,757
But to that little girl, that was
terrifying. And we understand the reason.

595
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,797
>> Yes. >> Yes.
And I want wanted to say when you

596
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,957
said that that one of the reasons why
I made my video the way I did is that I

597
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,757
had this moment of thinking like he just

598
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,477
came to me. I was with Alex and I looked

599
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,277
at him and he was just so joyous in

600
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:31,197
whatever he was doing and I said like I

601
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:35,677
just don't want cuz he loves me so much
and he models me like they learn through

602
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,357
like seeing.

603
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,877
>> Yeah. And I said, I just want him to

604
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,757
continue being that,

605
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,757
>> you know, like continuing having that

606
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,077
possibility like

607
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:55,677
>> uh mindset and not
go to my former >> Yeah.

608
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,677
>> Um >> outlook.
>> Yeah. Your old outlook.

609
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,837
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah.
Amazing. Well, don't worry because

610
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,757
he's obviously a powerful spirit who
just loves life and that's why he picked

611
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,517
you because think about it.
If you want to get

612
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:15,517
strong, you know, you go to the gym
and what do you do? If you want to get

613
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,357
strong biceps, what do you do?

614
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,717
>> You lift weights. >> You lift
something heavy, right? You go

615
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,877
against the quote unquote what seems to

616
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,517
be the resistance. He wants to

617
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,877
experience pure joy and possibility. so

618
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,757
perfect that he originally picked a mom

619
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,597
who was stuck in probability and fear.

620
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,037
What What a great training ground
for him to go, "Oh, that's not going to

621
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:40,637
bother me. I'm still going to be looking

622
00:34:40,720 --> 00:34:43,357
through the eyes of possibility."

623
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:47,000
Isn't that cool?

624
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,317
>> That's beyond cool.

625
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,357
>> Beyond cool. Yeah.

626
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:59,357
So now we just want to get mom to join
him in his game of pure possibility.

627
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,397
>> Right? >> Here's here's
the irony. Listen to me.

628
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,477
All you've been doing is living in the

629
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,957
world of possibility. It just your

630
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,677
possibility has been very limited to

631
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:14,797
your historical memory. You're still
So do you know what's going to happen in

632
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,917
the in the future? >> I have no clue.

633
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,477
>> No clue. But then it's the energy of

634
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,757
possibility that you've been using just

635
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,997
in a negative way. Because if you don't

636
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,717
know what's going to happen,

637
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,957
you're still using possibility, but

638
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,837
you're creating worst case scenarios.

639
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:38,157
>> Oh, I can list you.
I I'm an expert in a

640
00:35:38,240 --> 00:35:41,117
worst case scenarios. >> Okay.
Listen to what you just said.

641
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,757
You're an expert. Yeah. But what energy

642
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:48,360
are you using to create that?

643
00:35:52,240 --> 00:35:54,557
I don't know.
I don't see it. I don't know.

644
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,237
>> Listen, you're you aren't you
using your imagination to create

645
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,317
>> Oh, definitely. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

646
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:06,760
>> Well, what is imagination? Possibility.

647
00:36:10,240 --> 00:36:15,037
Don't. And I kept on saying I do not have

648
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:16,957
imagination. I do, but I'm freaking

649
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:21,117
using it for stupid. Anyways, okay.

650
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,957
>> Listen, all anyone has is an
imagination. I can remember one of my

651
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:29,117
first golfers, we helped triple his
winnings. You know, if you're a business

652
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,637
and we triple your winnings in a year
and a half, that's pretty good, right?

653
00:36:32,720 --> 00:36:34,957
>> Yeah. >> He texted me
actually within the first

654
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,997
couple of months working together.
This is before we got to triple, but he

655
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,637
started to play incredibly well. And he

656
00:36:40,720 --> 00:36:43,437
was like, "Oh my god, I just got it. It

657
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:48,760
just comes down to whoever
has the best imagination.

658
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,557
>> I didn't even go to that
other side of imagination.

659
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,917
Like, >> no, but you're
still using imagination.

660
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:02,237
So, imagine, okay, so now I'm going
to allow you for a second to be stubborn

661
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:03,357
with me.

662
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:07,357
>> But your stubbornness is how incredibly

663
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,957
attached you are to amazing imagined

664
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:15,720
futures. That's how stubborn you are.

665
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:21,277
>> The things I could do.
>> The things I could do.

666
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:25,117
>> I know. If you can talk yourself into
walking in and out of a freaking house

667
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,397
when you probably have way more
important things to do just to check the

668
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,477
stove. Imagine what you could have
do when you apply that imagination to

669
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,157
something you're actually committed to.

670
00:37:34,240 --> 00:37:36,477
>> Oh my god.

671
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:43,560
>> It's crazy, isn't it?
That's how powerful you are, Amra. Humans.

672
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:48,077
Humans. >> Isn't it
beautiful though to see?

673
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:49,917
>> See, you never had a problem. You

674
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,477
actually have a skill. It's just your

675
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,357
skill was oriented towards something

676
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,197
that's very understandable, which is

677
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:02,397
still that little girl's memory
that she's not going to be okay. But

678
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:03,997
you've got three and a half decades to

679
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:10,520
show that your perceived
reality is so inaccurate.

680
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,277
>> Right.

681
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:17,757
I guess I like being so right, you know?

682
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,557
So I'm just Yeah.

683
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:25,597
>> Yeah. But you're so wrong
because even you like you're so

684
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:31,720
committed to being right and you're
still wrong. So you kind of suck at that.

685
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,197
Yeah. >> Right.

686
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,437
>> I guess I'm starting to be okay with to

687
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,957
suck in things. So, it's okay. Yes. I

688
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,197
>> I suck at that of being right.

689
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,917
>> Yeah. Yeah.
And we have all the love and

690
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,677
compassion because it's that little girl

691
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,717
who's still trying to run a 45year-old

692
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:55,437
woman's life, which is adorable,
but it's it's completely powerless. It's

693
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,877
completely ineffective. >> Absolutely.

694
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:03,037
>> Yeah. How did we turn something
into what I thought? How did you turn

695
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,437
something into what I thought? It'll be

696
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,677
a tragic conversation in which I will

697
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,717
not be able to like say anything into

698
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,517
pure comedy. You're so talented.

699
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,757
>> Well, thank you. That's what I do. I'm

700
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,637
I'm just revealing the truth.

701
00:39:18,720 --> 00:39:20,957
>> Yeah. Okay.

702
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:22,877
>> You've been living in a in a charade.

703
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,077
You've been living in this this lie,

704
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,357
this illusion of

705
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:34,077
doom, not realizing
you're using the very same

706
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,317
skills that I use, that I help the best,

707
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,277
most incredible performers around the

708
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,437
world to use the same faculty of

709
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,877
imagination and possibility, but to

710
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:50,397
create the things they want. Now, you've
got the most amazing abilities. You've

711
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,917
just been using them
for your own detriment.

712
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,117
>> So, the good news, >> yeah,
wonderful news. Well, the good

713
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:01,037
news is with modern technology, you've
probably got at least another 45 years

714
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,677
to go, you know. So, imagine what you

715
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,957
can create. Imagine what kind of mom

716
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,757
Alex now gets.

717
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:14,397
>> The one he knows is there.
Cuz this kid,

718
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,877
>> he told me yesterday
we went to buy some

719
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,757
stuff for school and he goes, I was

720
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,917
telling him like I think he's the only
person that I said that I will do the

721
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,117
podcast and I was discussing. He's like,
"Mom, why are you absent? What's going

722
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:28,957
on?" And I said, "Well, I'm a bit

723
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,077
nervous." He said, "About what?" I said,

724
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:36,157
"About podcast." He said, "Why?"

725
00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:40,317
I said, "I don't know, Alex. I'm just
nervous." And he said, "You're good at

726
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:45,197
that stuff. You like talking about that
stuff, right?" And I'm like, "Yeah." So,

727
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,797
I was trying to explain something to him.
And he goes, "So what you're

728
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,917
telling me actually is what I'm hearing

729
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,277
from you is that you're afraid to be

730
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:56,957
happy."

731
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,277
>> Mhm.

732
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:03,517
>> And I said, "What
do you mean, Alex?" He

733
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:07,197
says to me, "So you're kind of thinking

734
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,757
if we are having fun

735
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,237
that you can't have fun because

736
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,557
something bad will happen

737
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,757
>> if you have fun.

738
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,317
I was like, "Yeah,

739
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,317
this kid is just

740
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,997
>> he's got your number.

741
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:30,157
>> Not anymore. He's going to be like,
"Whoa, who are you? Where's my mom?"

742
00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:31,837
You're like, "I'm right here, fool.

743
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,077
Let's go. Let's go have some fun."

744
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,597
Right. >> Yeah. >> So, that's
one part of it, right? So, is

745
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:42,317
it an absolute truth that
you're not going to be okay?

746
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,917
>> No. >> No.
that was completely made up by your

747
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,677
own nervous system for which we
understand and have compassion. But

748
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:53,997
let's stop living in this fictitious
worst case scenario. Okay.

749
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:57,277
>> Okay. >> Cuz you've
got four and a half decades

750
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,717
now even through war of realizing the

751
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:05,677
story that you're not going to be
okay just really doesn't hold anymore.

752
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,837
>> Right. No. >> Okay.
So that's that's one part. Now the

753
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,477
other part which you just sort of

754
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:16,157
perhaps not coincidentally just said

755
00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:18,557
is what you think is going to happen.

756
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:25,240
How how do you delineate what you think
is going to happen? It's going to be

757
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:30,397
>> it's going to be bad. >> Exactly.
So again, so remember every

758
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,237
human being is fundamentally using their

759
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,117
imagination as a continuation of a

760
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,517
history that has not yet been accepted.

761
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:41,357
The imagination is used typically to

762
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,677
perpetuate worst case scenarios, right?

763
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:47,277
Especially if you've had a bad like
if someone's been in war like you, of

764
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,077
course, then it's like you're going
to be looking out for war. If someone has

765
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,837
been sadly hit or abused, they're going
to be looking for being hit and abused,

766
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,597
right? That's the way that the brain,
which is designed to predict and

767
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,637
protect, tries to keep you alive. But

768
00:43:00,720 --> 00:43:02,637
all it's actually doing is keeping your

769
00:43:02,720 --> 00:43:05,597
memory alive.

770
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:10,717
Isn't that nuts? So is it
true that you're not going to

771
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,837
be okay? >> No.

772
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:15,997
>> And then as you relate to the future,

773
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,637
you think what type of things are going

774
00:43:18,720 --> 00:43:23,437
to happen? >> Bad.
Bad things are going to happen.

775
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,597
Right? So now let's just look at that.

776
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:27,597
If you walk around thinking bad things

777
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:29,757
are going to happen, how does that leave

778
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:34,877
you feeling? >> Scared, anxious.

779
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:39,037
>> Yeah. And then you're And then
the way that you adapt and cope

780
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,557
is what? >> Hide.

781
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:46,317
>> Hide. Control.
Try to figure out >> Yeah.

782
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:50,557
>> A lot of control, right?
>> A lot of control. Absolutely.

783
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:54,077
>> Okay. So, >> letting
go is not my my gem.

784
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:55,997
>> No, it's exhausting.
That's why you wake

785
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,717
up in the morning, you're tired before
you've even opened your eyes. Your

786
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,517
nervous system is already oriented to

787
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:06,317
looking out for worst case scenarios
before anything's even happened.

788
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,237
And also it hasn't even had time to

789
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,437
reconcile the the litany of like past

790
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,997
days, weeks, months, and years that it's

791
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:18,557
been in that state. It's just like
constantly in fight or flight. Right.

792
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,357
>> Absolutely. >> So

793
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:28,360
do you know that bad things are
going to happen categorically?

794
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,917
>> No. >> No.
I know it's a big one for you. So

795
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,157
listen, I'm going to take you even

796
00:44:34,240 --> 00:44:38,957
deeper. Okay. >> Would you
say that this conversation

797
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:42,237
you're having with me
right now is powerful?

798
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,357
>> Very much so. >> Would
you say that this conversation

799
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:49,197
right now is and will change
the course of your life?

800
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,077
>> Absolutely. >> Would you
say that this conversation

801
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,317
you're having with right now makes you a

802
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,357
much better mom for your beautiful son?

803
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,277
>> Endlessly.

804
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:04,557
Now, could all of that have happened,
meaning those three things I just said

805
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:08,157
about, you know, better changing
your life, better mom, you know, this is

806
00:45:08,240 --> 00:45:10,397
powerful. Could that have happened if it

807
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:16,077
weren't for what that
little girl went through?

808
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:21,160
Gotcha. Got him.

809
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:28,360
>> No. >> No. So therefore, was it bad?

810
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:34,077
>> No. But it was scary. It's okay. It was

811
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:38,237
really scary. But it was also
part of your journey. It

812
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:42,637
was part of your karma to go through
that so that you right now with me get

813
00:45:42,720 --> 00:45:45,037
the living opportunity to step into the

814
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,997
most extraordinary, joyous, fun, loving,

815
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,477
happy mother. Not just for yourself, but

816
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:55,197
for that beautiful boy.
And you wouldn't have known how to

817
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:59,117
access this if it was all worth it.
I would go I would go through it all

818
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,957
again. >> I know.
And that's how we sign up for

819
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:07,277
this incarnation. You don't
remember these deals that you

820
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:11,837
made, but you're here because you want
to experience this level of joy. And the

821
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:16,077
only way you can really access this joy
is if you know you know that you can

822
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:20,157
handle the worst because you already did.

823
00:46:20,240 --> 00:46:22,797
So, I'm going to phrase something
for you that I really want you to

824
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,917
understand. There's no such thing as bad

825
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:30,237
things happening.
There's just things happening.

826
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:34,637
>> Yeah. >> We put good,
bad, right, wrong on top of

827
00:46:34,720 --> 00:46:38,237
life. But what I want
you to understand, Amra,

828
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:42,957
is there's nothing you can't handle.
So, it's never bad. Are things going to

829
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:46,957
happen in the future? Yes. That's all
that ever is going to happen. Things

830
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,837
happening.

831
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,157
you thinking they're bad, you labeling

832
00:46:52,240 --> 00:46:59,197
them, perceiving them, imagining them
as bad is what changes your state.

833
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:03,357
But what would it be like for you
as a woman, as a mother, as a 45year-old

834
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:07,597
being now who can look through the lens
of, "Yeah, things are going to happen

835
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:14,040
and guess what? I'll deal with it."

836
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,437
That's my dream. I don't know what other

837
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,517
people are dreaming of. their cars,

838
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,557
their apartments, their whatever. Man,

839
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:26,557
they like they because my husband is into

840
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,637
completely different things. But

841
00:47:28,720 --> 00:47:30,157
anyways,

842
00:47:30,240 --> 00:47:34,957
like that's my dream. Like honestly with

843
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:36,557
1,000%

844
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,037
is just

845
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:42,157
not to see everything as tragedy. like

846
00:47:42,240 --> 00:47:44,397
the nervous system not to be so wired

847
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,277
that every single little thing

848
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:51,277
>> is like overwhelm. It's

849
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,557
>> because it's not on the level of the

850
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:58,717
being that you are from the spirit
that you see in the pure joy and bliss of

851
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:00,797
your son even in Bosnia at a coffee shop

852
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:04,477
or whatever like that joy is your nature

853
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:08,157
and then outside of you in the
three-dimensional world that we call

854
00:48:08,240 --> 00:48:12,237
reality things are just always happening
and I'm not saying they're ideal there

855
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,877
are some what seem to be horrific things

856
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:19,357
that happen to humans you know really
on the on the scale of what can happen

857
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:20,957
there's a lot. But there's also an

858
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,597
immense amount of bliss and joy and good

859
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:28,397
fortune. It's all just things happening.

860
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,477
And I'm telling you, reminding you that

861
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,757
there's nothing you can't handle. So

862
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:35,997
then why would you have this tendency to

863
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,957
constantly look for the bad? Because you

864
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:44,920
think they're bad. No,
it's just things happening.

865
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,637
>> Yeah. Do you see that's
an entirely different

866
00:48:48,720 --> 00:48:53,000
world to live in? >> Completely.

867
00:48:54,240 --> 00:48:56,077
>> And what comes to my mind when you say

868
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,877
that is that I wouldn't call this

869
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,997
similar. Alex and I are separate people

870
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:06,397
from what and separate relationship
to what my mom had with me.

871
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:06,957
>> Mhm.

872
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:10,237
>> But I looked the way she lived.

873
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,517
>> Mhm. for a very very very long time cuz

874
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:18,077
she was my >> mother and father.
So for better for

875
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:21,277
worse she did I know she
did the best she could.

876
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,917
>> Yeah >> but there
was a lot of suffering. So now

877
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:28,877
when you saying this previous uh
previous thing I just my mom is popping

878
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:30,477
in my head

879
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,957
>> and she suffered a lot. So I guess from

880
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,917
very early age

881
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,637
I thought that that's that's the default

882
00:49:38,720 --> 00:49:41,117
state because

883
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,437
that's how you live.

884
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,157
>> Well, here's here's the sad part. That

885
00:49:46,240 --> 00:49:49,917
is the default state of most humans.

886
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:53,437
Even in the you know religion
of Buddhism, they say one of the noble

887
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:58,237
truths to be human is to suffer. But
that's why when you very kindly earlier

888
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:01,917
gave me the compliment of like
the talent I have to turn tragedy into

889
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,477
comedy, you know, to turn grief into

890
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:06,717
gratitude, which is what I do, is

891
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:11,917
because that's called my 2.0 world. I'm
showing you the truth. Humans are stuck

892
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:15,357
in the illusion of all their suffering
and their fear, the limitation of their

893
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,437
subconscious, which creates all of their

894
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,997
disease and their scarcity, which is

895
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,517
suffering, but it's all made up.

896
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:27,597
2.0 in our world is this new space
for humans to live in freedom, love,

897
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:31,277
possibility, vitality, joy and abundance.

898
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,837
>> But why we are not scared? So this is

899
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,157
what what bugs me like now when you say

900
00:50:36,240 --> 00:50:39,197
it. So why am I scared of s why am I not

901
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,117
scared of suffering? So I'm okay with

902
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:46,717
suffering but I'm afraid to be in the
unknown that brings possibility. Like

903
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,757
how? >> No, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no. Unknown

904
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:51,837
doesn't bring anything.

905
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:56,557
You are wired because of the 1.0 mindset

906
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:58,717
is what I call it. The current default

907
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:02,237
operating system of humanity right now.

908
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:05,917
Everybody out there, all the war, all
the tragedy, all the corruption, all the

909
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,717
abuse, all the horrific things that we

910
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:10,557
see is because everyone's living on this

911
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:14,397
old operating system. So uncertainty,

912
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,797
yes, is pure possibility. It's all

913
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,197
possibility. You saw that earlier. It's

914
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,517
just the way you're currently wired is

915
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:25,037
to put worstcase scenarios into

916
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:28,077
uncertainty that creates your suffering.

917
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,317
Do you see? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

918
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,357
>> There's no suffering. People say,
"I'm scared of the unknown." No. No one's

919
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,997
scared of the unknown >> because
it's unknown. How can you be

920
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:37,917
scared of something that you don't know?

921
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:39,517
>> Thank you very much for completing my

922
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:41,917
sentence.

923
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,677
>> Yeah. Now you just
scared to me. Just it

924
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:49,677
just Yeah. Do you see?
It's so obvious once you see

925
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:54,397
it. And yet now why I have compassion
and I tell people you can't be held

926
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:58,077
accountable for that which you're
oblivious to. Meaning right now there

927
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:02,797
are people drinking, smoking, cheating,
you know, lying. Like they're in

928
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:04,957
suffering because they don't know what

929
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,517
they don't know. It's not their fault.

930
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:12,157
But you're waking up to this new 2.0
world. You get to be freedom. You're not

931
00:52:12,240 --> 00:52:16,077
just stepping into freedom.
You realize I am freedom.

932
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:19,837
>> Yeah. See? Well, there
we we we're getting there.

933
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:23,837
>> Um, >> that's never
been scared of the unknown.

934
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:27,517
No, you've never been scared of the
unknown. Your current wiring, your

935
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,957
programming, and your conditioning
through no fault of your own is being

936
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:34,397
informed by a terrified little girl. But

937
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:38,317
that has got nothing to do with today or

938
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,437
yesterday or last year or last decade.

939
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,677
But you were always being informed.

940
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,637
That's why I had the quote, "Past hurt

941
00:52:46,720 --> 00:52:53,320
informs future fear."
But when were you in war?

942
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:57,997
When were you actually in a war zone?

943
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:00,957
>> 30 something years ago,
but it continued like

944
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,517
>> No, no, no. I know.
So you, the you that

945
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:07,117
I'm talking to right now, was never in a

946
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:10,717
war zone. Ever.

947
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:14,360
Just get that.

948
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,557
you right now, not with the same body,

949
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:23,597
the hair, the height, the experience,
the talent was never in

950
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:25,757
a water. >> No.

951
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,797
>> Do you see? You're just remembering.

952
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,357
It's your memory that's upsetting you of

953
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,477
a little girl who is still asking to be

954
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:38,157
integrated. That's it. That's it. And

955
00:53:38,240 --> 00:53:40,797
you have created war for three and a

956
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:44,477
half decades by yourself.

957
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:47,517
And that's why we have war because again

958
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:50,797
as my quote says, we'll never have peace

959
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:56,040
as long as people are
at war within themselves.

960
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:00,797
Yeah, this is powerful stuff.

961
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:04,317
Isn't that crazy?

962
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:08,797
All made up. Amra,

963
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,037
that's the good news. Now the

964
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,517
opportunity is to realize if you made if

965
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:16,877
you made up that degree of suffering,

966
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,357
tragedy, fear, terror, and war within

967
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:25,480
yourself, imagine what
else you can make up.

968
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:29,757
>> Did I say I'm scared to even
think what I can make up?

969
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:33,917
>> Yeah. Well, that's just
your residual self-image

970
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:35,677
because scared has been what defined

971
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,637
you. But actually, it's power. Power is

972
00:54:38,720 --> 00:54:41,997
what you're tapping into.

973
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,157
The power to be the most extraordinary,

974
00:54:44,240 --> 00:54:47,437
liberated, funloving, creative mother,

975
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:51,400
woman, wife.

976
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,477
Okay,

977
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,357
that's pretty different, isn't it?

978
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:07,400
Yeah. >> You ready to get busy living?

979
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,757
>> I guess so.

980
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:15,037
>> Well, that was convincing.

981
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:16,957
It's okay. You got less than an hour

982
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,757
against 35 years. I I I'll give you a

983
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,237
little bit of time to figure it out.

984
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:25,917
>> Yeah. Please be kind. Yeah. Um Yeah.

985
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:30,600
>> Is it true that you're
not going to be okay?

986
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:32,797
No.

987
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:38,077
>> Is it true that bad things happen?

988
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:41,517
>> No. >> No. What is the truth?

989
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:45,597
>> Things happen. >> Things happen.
And sometimes they're not

990
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:49,037
ideal. But guess what? You're
equipped apparently to deal with them.

991
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,277
>> I can handle them. Apparently.

992
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,997
>> Apparently you can.

993
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:57,117
Do you just see how powerful that is?

994
00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:00,557
You just went from thinking there's
nothing you can handle and there's the

995
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:03,757
boogie monster around every corner to

996
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:07,117
like it should I feel your whole spine

997
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:11,517
just changing right like this the posture
of who you are now as a woman as

998
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:15,357
a mother you know yes your mother
was living in suffering because that's how

999
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:18,797
humans are currently conditioned I
get it I have compassion I'm sorry that

1000
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:20,397
that's what you had to witness and what

1001
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,477
she went through but you're a different

1002
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:26,157
type of human being now you get to show

1003
00:56:26,240 --> 00:56:30,077
your son, even though he's been the one
showing you what it is to live from a

1004
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,077
world of complete freedom, love,

1005
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:35,757
possibility, and power. What a gift to

1006
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:39,837
all of you. >> I know

1007
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:43,437
it's just now when you're saying that I'm
I'm just everything that I ever had

1008
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:46,717
in my mind is just stories and stories

1009
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,997
and they just stories, man. They just

1010
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:53,837
>> I know. Welcome to my
world and now why you can

1011
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:58,477
see what you call talent and why I'm
able to just help people completely free

1012
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:00,717
their minds. And that's why I created

1013
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:05,517
2.0 world. There's people just lining
up right now to join 2.0 world because

1014
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:09,117
these conversations will be happening
every day in the community. I'll be

1015
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,117
doing my monthly calls to help people

1016
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:16,840
step into a world of complete freedom.

1017
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:23,357
>> It's just Yeah. I did not think
this conversation will go this way.

1018
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:26,397
>> Like >> I know and that's
why I love what I get

1019
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:33,480
to do because you can't see beyond the
limits of your own current perspective.

1020
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,797
>> Welcome to a new world, my dear.

1021
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:40,957
Completely mindblowing. >> Yeah,

1022
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,677
>> it's a death. It's the most beautiful

1023
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:45,997
death. This is you now being born into

1024
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,717
your true divine natural state of

1025
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:53,197
freedom, love, possibility, power,

1026
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:57,357
and pure creativity, which is all you've
been doing. You You're just doing it

1027
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:01,117
unconsciously before. >> And the
funny thing, I'm looking at this

1028
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:05,437
beautiful look at my page like
of things that I wanted to ask.

1029
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:09,117
>> Yeah, it's all story. It all belongs
to the little girl and we love her. But I

1030
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:13,197
would ceremonially, with all due respect,
I would tear that page up. If

1031
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:17,197
you want to read it one more time,
>> this is I'm looking and there is some

1032
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:21,117
this is something that I've been holding
on for like forever. And I'm like, no,

1033
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:25,117
you have to ask about your dad. You have
to ask about this. You have to ask about

1034
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:29,357
that. And I'm like,
>> it's >> I don't give a damn.

1035
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,277
>> It's all garbage. With all due respect,

1036
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:34,797
it's all garbage. It's all old.

1037
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:38,397
So, I would invite you with your son to

1038
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:42,797
make it really powerful to let him know
you're right. I was scared to be happy

1039
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:46,717
because I was just scared. It didn't
matter. Fill in the blank. Scared to be

1040
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:51,277
wealthy, scared to be loved, scared
to be sexy, scared to I was just scared.

1041
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:55,117
And you can show him whatever you want
to show him, you know, the things you

1042
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:59,597
went through. And what a powerful ritual
for him to see that everything that

1043
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,077
happened in mommy's past is done. Why?

1044
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:06,717
Cuz it's in my past. But I've been
dragging it with me every day. And so

1045
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,757
whether you have a little fireplace
there or somewhere where you could just

1046
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:12,797
burn that and and let go and step into

1047
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:14,477
this entirely new world of pure

1048
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:18,077
possibility with him.

1049
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,717
Sound good?

1050
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,757
>> You Peter, I know you hear this many

1051
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:26,157
times, but I say it from the bottom of

1052
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:30,637
my heart. It's just pure magic.

1053
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:35,037
>> Abracadabra as I speak. So I create.

1054
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:39,037
Now you get to be a magician in your own
world. And I know every kid loves magic.

1055
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,357
So show your son some magic. As we

1056
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:43,517
speak, so we create. Speak some magic

1057
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:46,237
into your life.

1058
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:51,480
>> Deal. >> Deal.

1059
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:55,117
>> Welcome to 2.0. My my dear. This is

1060
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:57,917
>> I'm looking forward to looking I'm look

1061
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:01,517
looking back at that this podcast and

1062
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:04,797
I'm looking forward to seeing how what

1063
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:08,237
you did to me, you know, in a in a good

1064
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:13,117
way. You're like doom.
>> Let's just say we did it together. I

1065
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:15,757
couldn't have had this conversation
without you. I'd probably just

1066
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:20,200
>> We have done together breakfast.

1067
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:22,957
>> Yeah. Such a joy to be with you. you. I

1068
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:25,837
can see why you were the portal for such

1069
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:28,157
an extraordinary boy because you really

1070
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:30,637
are a gift and your nature is so

1071
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:33,597
playful. It's so fun and I really love

1072
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:37,757
that little girl who's been living
in fear and thinking that you had to keep

1073
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:39,757
looking out for her. But she's fine.

1074
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:42,477
She's she's she's with you and there's

1075
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:46,797
nothing to worry about because there's
nothing bad happens. There's just life

1076
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:50,477
happens and there's nothing that we
can't handle. Sometimes it's not ideal.

1077
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:52,717
Okay, fine. But there's always an

1078
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:55,837
opportunity in it.

1079
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:59,997
>> Beyond thank you, Peter. Like I just I

1080
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:03,517
I'm so happy that I didn't put my hand
up when I was in London because we

1081
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:06,957
probably wouldn't have enough time to

1082
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:11,037
>> Yeah. So, >> well,
next time I'm in London or

1083
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:14,557
wherever I have a live event and you
come along now, you're just going to be

1084
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:18,317
sitting there beaming with joy
and whooping and aaring and screaming and

1085
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:21,677
not thinking there's anything wrong
with you. and you'll be able to help me

1086
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:25,677
energetically to support the people who
are still stuck in the 1.0 world when I

1087
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:29,517
speak to them and you'll be like,
"Oh my god, they don't they don't get it.

1088
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:34,397
They're still looking through the lens
of limitation, fear, and suffering." And

1089
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:36,957
that >> time I was like that.

1090
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:41,757
>> Yeah. And that's why we have compassion
for each other. Everyone's doing the

1091
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:46,077
best they can within the limits of their
current awareness. But boy am I ready to

1092
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:48,237
help people wake up to a new world.

1093
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:51,517
>> My god. and you do
it so beautifully for

1094
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:57,197
me because I've been following
your work I think since 2022.

1095
01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:58,157
>> Mhm.

1096
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:02,877
>> You are such a genuine safe place.

1097
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:04,397
>> Thank you. That means a lot,

1098
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:07,357
>> you know. Oh, really? It's just and to

1099
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:10,717
come from me who never felt ever before

1100
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:15,517
safe. It's just

1101
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:19,037
>> Yeah. Thank you. >> Thank you so much.

1102
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:22,397
I just want to let you know,

1103
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:26,317
not only did your son just get a new
mother, ironically, the one he's always

1104
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:29,277
known as there, but

1105
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:34,237
what's so beautiful is you get
to amplify his possibility now, right?

1106
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:37,517
Because eventually it would have worn
on him just like your mom through no fault

1107
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:38,397
of her own.

1108
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:41,357
>> Exactly. Exactly. That's the video. I

1109
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:45,037
guess I had that moment of like I don't

1110
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:49,197
know like my mind opened and I
said I can't do that to him

1111
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:49,517
>> right

1112
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:54,557
>> like I'm responsible
to take my crap and

1113
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:59,517
deal with it and let it go >> cuz

1114
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:02,797
Yeah. >> And listen listen
I'm just going to just

1115
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:06,557
adjust it slightly. It's not crap.
It's beautiful. It's part of the human

1116
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:09,357
condition. That that little girl being

1117
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:13,597
scared is not crap. It's totally
appropriate. We love her. We want to We

1118
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:16,237
want to understand her reality because

1119
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:19,277
the integration is the removal of the

1120
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:23,997
suffering. It's okay. That was really
scary. But you've been doing that to

1121
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:27,997
yourself for over three and a half
decades, right? So, not only does your

1122
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:30,877
son today, as of today, it's official,

1123
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:34,157
he has a I can't wait to see what you

1124
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:38,557
guys create together with this new
mom that he has. But what I wanted to

1125
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:43,117
acknowledge you for Amra is the courage
that it takes for somebody with such a

1126
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:45,197
story of fear to spend time like this

1127
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:48,397
with me knowing

1128
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:51,517
that you know this is now going to

1129
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:55,437
probably touch the lives of millions
of people who are in their own world of

1130
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:59,677
suffering but not anymore because
of this conversation. So I just wanted to

1131
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:04,077
say thank you for the gift that your
story is. Not only therefore is it not

1132
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:08,477
bad, what you've actually done through
your ability, through your courage to go

1133
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:12,317
through war to cross enemy lines,
in this case the enemy lines was your own

1134
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:15,117
imagination, but now you just gifted

1135
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:17,597
millions of people the opportunity to

1136
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:21,037
overcome their own war within. What a

1137
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:25,517
gift. >> I feel so blessed
to be able to do that

1138
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:29,597
with you. It's unbelievable.

1139
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:33,757
>> Yeah. Thank you. Thank you for having
the courage to go through what you went

1140
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:38,877
through so that you could through your
own story help liberate other people to

1141
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:40,717
overcome their own version of war.

1142
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:41,997
Whatever it is that they went through.

1143
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:45,677
It might not have been an actual war.
It might have been a household where the

1144
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:48,477
parents screamed. It might have been
physical abuse. It might have been

1145
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:52,317
emotional abuse. God forbid sexual abuse.
But they've been living in war

1146
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:56,397
for decades like you. And now
they don't have to do that anymore.

1147
01:04:56,480 --> 01:05:00,397
So, thank you for letting me hold
space so that you could end the war and

1148
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:04,557
discover true peace, which is your nature,
so that millions of other people

1149
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:07,117
around the world could do the same. And

1150
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:09,757
ultimately, as my podcast is called,

1151
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:15,680
find freedom. >> Thank you so much, Peter.