pay off our national debt.
>> So what do you think the solution is to
the jobs that are going to be lost
because of AI and robotics, the jobs due
to automation, the jobs due to no longer
do we need human beings to do these jobs
because AI is doing them? Do you think
it's going to be some sort of a
universal basic income thing? Do you
think there's going to be some other
kind of solution that has to be
implemented
because a lot of people are going to be
out of work, right?
Um I think there will be um actually a
high demand for jobs but not necessarily
the same jobs.
So
I mean this is actually this process has
been happening um throughout um modern
history. Um I mean there used to be like
like doing calculations um ma manually
with with like pencil and paper used to
be a job. So they used to have like
buildings full of people called
computers where the the banks would like
all you do all day is is is um you do
calculations because they didn't have
computers didn't they didn't have
digital didn't have digital computers
that that people Yeah. Well just people
would just like add and subtract stuff
on piece of paper and and and that that
would be how banks would do you know
financial processing
>> and you'd have to literally go over
their equations to make sure the books
are balanced.
>> Yeah. And most times it's just simple
math like you know the like in in a
world before computers how did you
calculate how did you you do
transactions you had to do them by hand.
Um so then when computers were
introduced the job of doing um you know
bank calculations no longer existed. Um
so people had to go do something else.
Um and that's what's going to happen
that what's that's what is happening at
an accelerated rate. um due to AI and
and then robotics.
>> That's the issue though, right? The
accelerated rate because it's going to
be
>> it's the accelerator. It's it's it's
just happening that like I said AI is
the supersonic tsunami.
So that's what I call it supersonic
tsunami. Um so
>> it's like what other jobs will be
available that aren't available now
because of AI?
Um well AI um will is is really still
digital. Ultimately um AI can improve
the productivity of of humans who who um
build things with their hands or do
things with their hands like plum, you
know, literally
welding,
electrical work, plumbing, anything
that's that's physically moving atoms.
um like like cooking food or um you know
farming or or like like anything that's
that's physical uh those jobs will exist
for a much longer time. But anything
that is digital uh which is like just
someone at a computer doing something AI
is going to take over those jobs like
lightning
>> coding anything along those lines. Yeah,
[snorts]
>> it's going to take over those jobs like
lightning. um just like it just like
digital [snorts] computers took over the
job of people doing manual calculations
but but much faster. cars are um cars
are going to be autonomous. Um but there
there's just so many desk desk jobs
where where really what people are doing
is they're processing email um or
they're answering the phone um and and
just anything that is that that isn't
moving atoms like anything that is not
physically like doing physical work that
will obviously be the first thing those
jobs will will be and are being
eliminated by by AI at a very rapid
pace. Um
um
and ultimately
I working will be optional
uh because you'll have robots plus AI
um and we'll have in a benign scenario
universal high income not just universal
basic income universal high income
meaning anyone can have any products or
services that they want. So you
>> but but there will be a lot of trauma
and disruption along the way.
>> So you anticipate a basic income from
that that the economy will boost to such
an extent that a high income would be
available to almost everybody. So we'd
essentially eliminate poverty
>> um in the benign scenario. Yes. So like
the way
>> there's multiple scenarios.
>> There are multiple scenarios. There's a
lot of ways this movie can end. Um, like
the reason I'm so concerned about AI
safety is that like one of the
possibilities is the Terminator
scenario. It's not it's not 0%.
Um, so
um that's why it's like I'm like really
banging the drum on AI needs to be
maximally truth seeeking. Like don't
make I don't force AI to believe a lie
like that the for example the founding
fathers were actually a group of diverse
women or that misgendering is worse than
nuclear