1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,557 Stop scrolling endlessly. [music] You 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:04,877 have big dreams and goals for this year. 3 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,517 The Mindset app gives you the advice and 4 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:10,077 the push you need. Don't wait [music] 5 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:15,357 for someday. Download Mindset today. 6 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:19,437 I work 7 days a week, but but I I'm not expecting others to do that. Um, 7 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:21,197 >> how much sleep do you get, by the way? 8 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,237 >> Uh, about 6 hours. >> You do 6 hours typically? 9 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:26,077 >> Yes. >> Oh, that's not bad. I thought it would 10 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:30,157 be less. I've tried less, but uh I uh my productivity my even though I'm awake 11 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:32,397 more hours, I get less done. >> Okay. 12 00:00:32,480 --> 00:00:38,040 >> And and the brain pain level is bad if if I get less than 6 hours. 13 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,677 >> When you had that third failure in a 14 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:45,917 row, >> did you think I need to pack this in? 15 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,797 >> Never. >> Why not? 16 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,757 >> I don't ever give up. I mean, I'd have 17 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:56,157 to be dead or completely incapacitated. 18 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,277 you need to work if depending upon how well you want to do and particularly if 19 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:03,117 you're starting a company, you need to work super hard. So what what does super 20 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,157 hard mean? Um well, when my brother and 21 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:10,317 I were starting our first company, uh in instead of getting an apartment, we just 22 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,717 rented a a small office and we slept on 23 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,677 the couch. Um and we we showered at the 24 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:19,197 the YMCA and uh we're we're so hot up we 25 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,677 had just one computer. So the this the 26 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,237 the the website was up during the day uh 27 00:01:24,320 --> 00:01:29,757 and I was coding at night 7 days a week all the time sort of briefly had a 28 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:31,117 girlfriend in that period and in order 29 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,277 to be with me she have to sleep in the 30 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:38,077 office. So work hard like it I mean 31 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,997 every waking hour that's that's the the thing I would I would say if if you 32 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:46,397 particularly if you're starting a company you have to apply a lot of hours to 33 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:51,927 actual working actually working. So the the way I generally do it is I'll be uh 34 00:01:52,010 --> 00:01:54,717 [music] working at SpaceX 35 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,037 on Monday and then Monday night flight 36 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:01,997 to Bay Area. Uh spent Tuesday and 37 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:06,397 Wednesday at the barrier then at at Tesla and then fly back on Wednesday 38 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:10,557 night. Spent Thursday and Friday at SpaceX. 39 00:02:10,640 --> 00:02:14,317 um in [music] in in the last several months. Then I I would fly back here on 40 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,797 a Saturday um and either spend Saturday 41 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:21,117 and Sunday at Tesla uh or spend Saturday 42 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,397 at Tesla and Sunday at SpaceX. 43 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:25,997 I was living in the in the in the 44 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,277 factory in Fremont um and and the one in 45 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,917 in Nevada for 3 years straight. It was 46 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,037 my primary residence. I I actually slept 47 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,277 well I slept in a couch at one point on 48 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:41,117 a in a tent on the roof. Um, and then 49 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:42,797 but but for a while there I was just 50 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:44,797 sleeping uh under my desk which is out 51 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:49,917 in the open in the factory. Um, and and for an important reason [music] and it 52 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,197 was damn uncomfortable sleeping on that floor and always when I woke up I'd 53 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,757 smell like metal dust. So during shift 54 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,197 change, the entire team could see me. 55 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:03,437 And this is important because if they think that the the sort of their leader 56 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:07,837 is is off somewhere having a good time, you know, drinking my ties on a tropical 57 00:03:07,920 --> 00:03:11,437 island, which I could definitely have have been doing and would much have 58 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:15,037 preferred to do, but but the thing is that since the team could see me 59 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:19,597 sleeping on the floor during shift change, they knew I was there and that 60 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:23,437 made a huge difference and then they gave it their role. 61 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,357 work like hell. I mean, you just have to 62 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:29,517 put in, you know, 80 hour 80 to 100 hour 63 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:33,757 weeks every week. That all those things improve the odds of success. If if other 64 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:35,437 people are putting in 40hour work weeks 65 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,357 and you're putting in 100hour work 66 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:41,117 weeks, then even if uh you're doing the 67 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,837 same thing, you know that in in one year 68 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:45,677 you will achieve what they achieve, you 69 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,797 you will achieve in 4 months what it 70 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:52,397 takes them a year to achieve. 71 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:53,837 If if you're creating a company or if 72 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,237 you're joining a company, uh the most 73 00:03:56,320 --> 00:04:00,077 important thing is to uh is to attract 74 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,757 great people. So either be with join a group that's amazing that you really 75 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,197 respect or if you if you're building a company, you've got to gather great 76 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,397 people. I mean all a company is is a group of people that have gathered 77 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,557 together to create a product or service. 78 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:16,637 And so depending upon how talented and hardworking that group is and the degree 79 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,357 to which they are focused uh cohesively 80 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:24,157 in in a good direction that will determine the success of the company. So 81 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:28,397 do everything you can to to gather great people uh if if you're creating a 82 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:32,477 company. I think a lot of people think I'm kind of a business person or 83 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:33,757 something, which is fine. Like business 84 00:04:33,840 --> 00:04:37,357 is fine, but um like I uh but really 85 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,477 it's, you know, it was like it's SpaceX. 86 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,317 Uh Gwen Shotwell is chief operating 87 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,597 officer. She kind of manages um uh 88 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:49,197 legal, finance, um [music] sales, um and 89 00:04:49,280 --> 00:04:50,957 kind of general business activity. And 90 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,437 then my time is almost entirely with the 91 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,637 uh engineering team working on improving 92 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,677 the Falcon 9 and the Dragon spacecraft 93 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:00,957 and developing the MOS colonial 94 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:05,277 architecture. Um and then at Tesla it's 95 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,717 working on the Model 3 and the yeah 96 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,677 something in the design studio typically 97 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:15,757 um half a day a week um dealing with 98 00:05:15,840 --> 00:05:18,717 aesthetics and and uh look and feel 99 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:23,277 things and and then most the rest of week is just going through engineering 100 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,277 of of of the car itself as well as 101 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,957 engineering of the the factory. 102 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,757 >> What's your mission life? why you do 103 00:05:31,840 --> 00:05:34,157 whatever you do. 104 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,637 >> When when I was a kid, I was wondering 105 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:38,957 kind of what's the meaning of life? Like 106 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,757 why are we here? What's it all about? 107 00:05:41,840 --> 00:05:46,477 And um I came to the conclusion that uh 108 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,197 what what really matters is trying to 109 00:05:49,280 --> 00:05:51,597 understand the right questions to ask. 110 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:53,917 And [music] the more that we can 111 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,197 increase the scope and scale of uh human 112 00:05:57,280 --> 00:06:01,597 consciousness, the better we are able to ask these questions. So, so I think that 113 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,877 there's certain things that are necessary to ensure that the future is 114 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,917 good and [music] some of those things 115 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:12,797 are in the long term having long-term sustainable transport and sustainable 116 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:14,797 energy generation. 117 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:19,597 um and uh to be a space fairing 118 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:24,317 civilization and for humanity to be out there among the stars and be a 119 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:28,957 multilanetary uh species. Um I [music] mean I think 120 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,117 the being a multilanet species and being 121 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:32,477 out there among the stars is important 122 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:36,157 for uh the long-term survival of 123 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,917 humanity and uh that's one reason kind 124 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:41,517 of like life insurance for life 125 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,477 collectively life as we know it. Um, but 126 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,437 then the part that I find personally 127 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,477 most motivating is that it creates a 128 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,197 sense of adventure and it makes people 129 00:06:53,280 --> 00:06:57,517 excited about the future. You know, my goal is like try to do 130 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:59,757 useful things, try to maximize the 131 00:06:59,840 --> 00:07:02,317 probability the future is good. 132 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,437 um make the future exciting, something 133 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,557 you look forward to, you know. 134 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:12,957 You know, with uh you know, with Tesla, we're like trying to make things that 135 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,197 people love. How many how many things 136 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,317 can you buy that you really love that 137 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,997 really give you joy? So rare. So rare. I 138 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:26,397 wish there were more things. That's what we try to do. Just make things that 139 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:31,677 somebody loves. Now is the time to take risk. U you don't have Yeah. Yeah, you 140 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:33,277 don't you don't have you don't have 141 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,997 kids, but as you as you get older, your 142 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,437 obligations increase. So you the and 143 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:43,197 once you have a family, you start taking risk, not just for yourself, but for 144 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:44,877 your family as well. It gets much harder 145 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,157 to uh do things that might not work out. 146 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:53,117 Um so now is the time to do that uh before you before you have those 147 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:54,797 obligations. So I would I would 148 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:56,557 encourage you to take risks now. Do 149 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:01,357 something bold. Um you won't regret it. 150 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,397 If you want to do things like me, you have to like learn how to be good at 151 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,997 technology. That's like so study engineering, physics, that kind of 152 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:09,517 thing. Um, understand how the world 153 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:14,637 works. Uh, and uh, and try to be as 154 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,797 accurate as possible about that. Uh, and 155 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:21,657 then like I said, also try to be creative, which means just like try 156 00:08:21,740 --> 00:08:24,957 [music] to think of of things that haven't been done before, but that would 157 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,397 probably make the [music] world better. 158 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,277 And it require I mean that's it requires a lot of mental effort to do that. It's 159 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:35,917 not you know I don't just like come with stuff like willy-nilly. Um I mean 160 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:40,237 occasionally but it's rare but you really have to like think until 161 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,277 your brain hurts. That's basically [music] if you haven't thought until 162 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,397 your brain hurts then you haven't tried hard enough. I'd encourage people to 163 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:50,237 read a lot of books. Just read like 164 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:54,637 basically try to ingest as much information as you can and try to also 165 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:56,477 just develop a good general knowledge. 166 00:08:56,560 --> 00:09:01,197 Um, so so you at least have like a rough 167 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:05,837 lay of the land, of the the knowledge landscape. Um, like try to learn a 168 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,717 little about about a lot of things cuz you might not know what you're really 169 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:10,717 interested. How would you know what you're really interested in if you at 170 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,757 least aren't like doing a peripheral 171 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:18,797 explor exploration broadly of the knowledge landscape and and you talk to 172 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:22,797 people from different walks of life and different uh industries and professions 173 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,757 and skills and occupations like just try 174 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,957 you know learn as much as possible. I 175 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:32,797 think um I think certainly uh being 176 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:36,877 focused on something that [music] you're confident will have high value to 177 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,437 someone else um and just being really 178 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,197 rigorous in [music] making that 179 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,157 assessment. Um because people are tend 180 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,717 tend to a natural human tendency is 181 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:51,757 wishful thinking. Um so a challenge for entrepreneurs is to say well what's the 182 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,797 difference between [music] really believing in your ideals and sticking 183 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:59,597 sticking to them >> versus pursuing some unrealistic dream 184 00:09:59,680 --> 00:10:03,517 that doesn't actually have merit [music] and it's it's that is a that is a really 185 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,477 difficult thing to to tell you can you tell the difference between those two 186 00:10:06,560 --> 00:10:07,757 things you [music] know so you need to 187 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,237 be sort of very rigorous um in in your 188 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:15,437 self self analysis there are a lot of negative things in the world there's a 189 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:16,237 lot of terrible things that are 190 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,437 happening all over the world all the 191 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:24,957 time. Uh there are lots of problems that need to get solved. There's lots of 192 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:26,317 things that are yeah that are miserable 193 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,597 and kind of get you down. But that life 194 00:10:29,680 --> 00:10:33,677 cannot just be about solving one miserable problem after another. Can't 195 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:35,037 that can't be the only thing. They need 196 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,477 to be need to be things that inspire you 197 00:10:38,560 --> 00:10:40,717 that make you glad to be to wake up in 198 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,837 the morning and be part of humanity. It 199 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,877 is time to go forth. Become a a 200 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,117 star-fing civilization. 201 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,077 Be out there among the stars. Expand the 202 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,797 scope and scale of human consciousness. 203 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:58,397 I I find that incredibly exciting. 204 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,597 That makes me glad to be alive. 205 00:11:01,680 --> 00:11:04,637 I I hope you feel the same way. 206 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:08,957 Focus on on signal over noise. Um a lot 207 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:10,797 of companies get get confused. they they 208 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:12,797 spend money on things that don't 209 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:16,157 actually make the product better. So, 210 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,197 for example, at at Tesla, we've we've 211 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,517 never spent any money on advertising. 212 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,877 Um, we we put all of the money into R&D 213 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,437 and and manufacturing and design, try to 214 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,297 make the car as good as possible. Um, 215 00:11:30,380 --> 00:11:33,357 [music] and uh I think that's that's 216 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,157 that's the way to go. So 217 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,877 for for any given company just can keep 218 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:43,277 thinking about are these efforts that people are are expending are they 219 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,597 resulting in a better product or service 220 00:11:45,680 --> 00:11:49,117 and if they're not stop those efforts 221 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:50,877 >> so many young people actually from 222 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,917 across the globe if you have an advice 223 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:58,957 to them young people globally who want to be like Elon Musk what's your advice 224 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,757 to them >> advice I mean if you want to make 225 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,317 progress in things [music] I think that 226 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:08,237 the best analytical framework for 227 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:09,357 understanding the future [music] is 228 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,797 physics. Um, I'd recommend studying the 229 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,597 the the thinking process around physics. 230 00:12:15,680 --> 00:12:17,917 Like not not just not not the equations. 231 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,997 I mean the equations certainly they're helpful but the the the way of thinking 232 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:27,277 in physics is the it's the best framework for understanding things that are 233 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:28,957 counterintuitive. 234 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:32,477 Um and um and you know always taking the 235 00:12:32,560 --> 00:12:35,837 position that you're some degree wrong 236 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:40,397 and your goal is to be less wrong over time. I one of the biggest mistakes 237 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:44,797 people generally make and I'm guilty of it too is wishful thinking. You know 238 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:47,117 like you want something to be true even 239 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,077 if it isn't true. Um [music] and so you 240 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:54,957 ignore the things that uh you you ignore the real truth because of what you want 241 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:59,517 to be true. Um, this is a very difficult trap to 242 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,677 avoid. Um, and like I said, certainly 243 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:05,037 one that I find myself in having 244 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:08,077 problems with. But if you just take that 245 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,077 approach of you're always to some degree 246 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:13,357 wrong and your goal is to be less wrong. 247 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,797 Try to be useful. Um, you do things that 248 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,197 are useful to your fellow human beings, 249 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,277 to the world. It's very hard to be 250 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:25,277 useful. Um, very hard. you know, are are 251 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,317 you contributing more than you consume? 252 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,837 You know, like uh try to have a positive 253 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:35,917 net contribution to [music] society. I think that's the thing to aim for, you 254 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:40,397 know, not not to try to be sort of a leader for just for the sake of being a 255 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:44,397 leader or whatever. Um the people you want as leaders are the people who don't 256 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,397 want to be leaders. 257 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,597 So if you can live a useful life, that 258 00:13:49,680 --> 00:13:52,317 is a good life, a life worth having 259 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,757 lived. I think um if somebody is doing 260 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:59,677 something that is useful to the rest of society, I think that's a good thing. 261 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:04,077 Like it doesn't have to change the world. like you know um if you're doing 262 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:08,317 something that has high value to to people um and and frankly even if it's 263 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,877 something if it's like um just a little 264 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:15,997 game um or you know the some improvement 265 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:19,757 in photo sharing or something if it if it has if it has a small amount of of 266 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:24,637 good for a large number of people um that's I mean I think that's that's fine 267 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:28,397 like stuff doesn't need to be changed [music] the world just to be good. What 268 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:32,477 is the one thing that has surprised you about your life? 269 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,597 >> Oh, one thing. Wow. Well, I certainly I'm surprised by the whole thing, 270 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:40,557 honestly. [laughter] I certainly didn't expect to be to be uh 271 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:42,317 for any of these things to happen. 272 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,077 Honestly, I knew I wanted to be involved 273 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:48,157 in technology. Um and uh in fact, the 274 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,917 only reason I started a company back in '95, an internet company, was because I 275 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,397 couldn't get a there were only a few internet companies and I couldn't get a 276 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:59,037 job at any of them. I tried to get a job at at Netscape. Um, and I sent my resume 277 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,757 and I and tried hanging out in the lobby, but I was too shy to talk to 278 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,477 anyone. And and then I was like, "Okay, 279 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:08,797 well, I guess I'll have to start a company cuz I can't get a job anywhere." 280 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:12,557 I mean, we got to be excited about the future. We got to do things that make us 281 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:17,197 want to live. You know, it cannot always be about problems every day. I mean, do 282 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,237 you want to wake up every morning and everything's just a problem? Well, what 283 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,517 what inspires you and what makes you excited about the future? There's got to 284 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,640 be some things like that.