WEBVTT 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:02.877 20 years ago this was like from Mars 00:00:02.960 --> 00:00:07.517 freak show all these views. The west must defend itself. The in the best the 00:00:07.600 --> 00:00:10.877 people producing this thing called software must be aligned with our 00:00:10.960 --> 00:00:14.877 government. We should not allow institutions software institutions to 00:00:14.960 --> 00:00:18.717 sell to our adversaries but not sell to the US government. Uh the world would 00:00:18.800 --> 00:00:21.837 become disjointed and more violent. uh 00:00:21.920 --> 00:00:23.357 simultaneously 00:00:23.440 --> 00:00:26.717 uh startups would rise and become a very 00:00:26.800 --> 00:00:31.597 large in terms of market cap and and footprint and that these software 00:00:31.680 --> 00:00:35.037 companies Palanteer and I hope others someday will change the course of 00:00:35.120 --> 00:00:37.357 history as you've as you've seen and and 00:00:37.440 --> 00:00:39.997 are in ways that no one believes or or 00:00:40.080 --> 00:00:42.557 some ways that are classified um and 00:00:42.640 --> 00:00:45.677 that um but simultaneously and that you 00:00:45.760 --> 00:00:47.997 can conver get people to believe by 00:00:48.080 --> 00:00:51.197 seeing the success and the impact And 00:00:51.280 --> 00:00:55.757 last not least, and our adversaries would completely act up because without 00:00:55.840 --> 00:00:57.437 them acting up, I still think people 00:00:57.520 --> 00:01:02.797 would not believe us. We've come closer to the norm. 00:01:02.880 --> 00:01:04.957 >> Yeah. >> And so like now all these things are 00:01:05.040 --> 00:01:08.637 like you walk around and people are I don't think everyone's saying it 00:01:08.720 --> 00:01:11.357 believes it, but they are beginning and 00:01:11.440 --> 00:01:16.317 and you know and that that's that's kind of very gratifying. Um, and it's 00:01:16.400 --> 00:01:20.557 probably good that they've forgotten that they all called us 20 years ago. It 00:01:20.640 --> 00:01:23.437 >> it was really interesting to live knowing obviously Palanteer had helped 00:01:23.520 --> 00:01:26.797 stop some really major attacks that were not public and people just thought we 00:01:26.880 --> 00:01:29.837 were weird and didn't appreciate it. And so it's you're finally getting some 00:01:29.920 --> 00:01:32.877 public appreciation I guess after maybe not for everything we've done but for 00:01:32.960 --> 00:01:35.837 some of the new things. A lot of the things we've done we've done can never 00:01:35.920 --> 00:01:39.597 be publicized. And I do I do I do in 00:01:39.680 --> 00:01:41.277 some ways wish they were more wellknown 00:01:41.360 --> 00:01:44.077 both for Palunteerians and because these 00:01:44.160 --> 00:01:46.957 institutions that you know I rever like 00:01:47.040 --> 00:01:51.517 um our military institutions and others would would get even more support if 00:01:51.600 --> 00:01:55.197 people understood the impact they were having in clandestine services positive 00:01:55.280 --> 00:01:58.397 impact. Now there are reasons they can't talk about these things and probably 00:01:58.480 --> 00:02:01.197 shouldn't. It has changed from we are 00:02:01.280 --> 00:02:04.477 like essentially the X-Men in a very 00:02:04.560 --> 00:02:09.197 deep cave and uh and then being shuffled 00:02:09.280 --> 00:02:13.277 back into the cave and told you know and but there's still a lot of that like I 00:02:13.360 --> 00:02:17.197 you know I I always get in trouble for saying the obvious fact that besid with 00:02:17.280 --> 00:02:20.957 without PG Europe would be completely different politically. 00:02:21.040 --> 00:02:23.037 >> Oh yeah >> and this is just just a fact. 00:02:23.120 --> 00:02:25.997 >> I think I think US might be as well. We probably shouldn't talk too much about 00:02:26.080 --> 00:02:28.797 this because you don't see as a big of a problem. But I mean, I think a lot of 00:02:28.880 --> 00:02:33.037 the battles we're having that are cultural wars right now over things 00:02:33.120 --> 00:02:35.597 might not be the battles we'd be having if there had been multiple successful 00:02:35.680 --> 00:02:36.557 attacks, right? I think the culture 00:02:36.640 --> 00:02:37.757 would have transformed in a very 00:02:37.840 --> 00:02:42.797 different direction. Yes, the America is 00:02:42.880 --> 00:02:44.717 there was there's a lot that has gone 00:02:44.800 --> 00:02:47.277 into the the the the some of the 00:02:47.360 --> 00:02:50.877 luxuries we have including certain uh 00:02:50.960 --> 00:02:55.517 dialogues that are clearly um luxury product. 00:02:55.600 --> 00:02:57.037 >> So Alex, we started American Optimist to 00:02:57.120 --> 00:02:59.597 push back against cynicism and pessimism you see in a lot of parts of our 00:02:59.680 --> 00:03:02.637 country. Uh what innovations and breakthroughs make you most excited 00:03:02.720 --> 00:03:06.077 about the next 20 years? What what gives you hope for the next next few decades? 00:03:06.160 --> 00:03:08.557 America is by far the best at enterprise 00:03:08.640 --> 00:03:13.277 software. You see this, you saw this before AI and large language models. I 00:03:13.360 --> 00:03:17.917 think at this point it's kind of hard to ignore. We have we continue to attract 00:03:18.000 --> 00:03:19.917 and retain the best talent in the world. 00:03:20.000 --> 00:03:23.837 We have cultural and cultural systems for managing that talent and turning 00:03:23.920 --> 00:03:25.837 that into productive companies like some 00:03:25.920 --> 00:03:28.797 of the ones you support in finance and I 00:03:28.880 --> 00:03:32.637 would say most notably Palunteer. Um and 00:03:32.720 --> 00:03:35.677 um I think a lot of the kind of uh and 00:03:35.760 --> 00:03:38.477 then we have uh there's a way in which 00:03:38.560 --> 00:03:43.037 uh our adversaries who are really focused on hurting us galvanize and 00:03:43.120 --> 00:03:45.117 bring the best out of America and allow 00:03:45.200 --> 00:03:48.077 us in many cases to look past divisions 00:03:48.160 --> 00:03:51.277 that are quite obviously less important 00:03:51.360 --> 00:03:55.277 than us unifying uh to outmaneuver and 00:03:55.360 --> 00:03:57.437 be stronger than our adversaries and 00:03:57.520 --> 00:03:59.677 leave them so scared that they act up 00:03:59.760 --> 00:04:04.237 less and quiver at uh the idea that uh 00:04:04.320 --> 00:04:09.277 rule of law, free speech, protecting protection of property and in general 00:04:09.360 --> 00:04:14.120 respect of humans is a basic human right.