1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,877 20 years ago this was like from Mars 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:07,517 freak show all these views. The west must defend itself. The in the best the 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:10,877 people producing this thing called software must be aligned with our 4 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:14,877 government. We should not allow institutions software institutions to 5 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:18,717 sell to our adversaries but not sell to the US government. Uh the world would 6 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,837 become disjointed and more violent. uh 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:23,357 simultaneously 8 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,717 uh startups would rise and become a very 9 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:31,597 large in terms of market cap and and footprint and that these software 10 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:35,037 companies Palanteer and I hope others someday will change the course of 11 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,357 history as you've as you've seen and and 12 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:39,997 are in ways that no one believes or or 13 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,557 some ways that are classified um and 14 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,677 that um but simultaneously and that you 15 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:47,997 can conver get people to believe by 16 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,197 seeing the success and the impact And 17 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:55,757 last not least, and our adversaries would completely act up because without 18 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:57,437 them acting up, I still think people 19 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:02,797 would not believe us. We've come closer to the norm. 20 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:04,957 >> Yeah. >> And so like now all these things are 21 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,637 like you walk around and people are I don't think everyone's saying it 22 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,357 believes it, but they are beginning and 23 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:16,317 and you know and that that's that's kind of very gratifying. Um, and it's 24 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:20,557 probably good that they've forgotten that they all called us 20 years ago. It 25 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,437 >> it was really interesting to live knowing obviously Palanteer had helped 26 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,797 stop some really major attacks that were not public and people just thought we 27 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,837 were weird and didn't appreciate it. And so it's you're finally getting some 28 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,877 public appreciation I guess after maybe not for everything we've done but for 29 00:01:32,960 --> 00:01:35,837 some of the new things. A lot of the things we've done we've done can never 30 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,597 be publicized. And I do I do I do in 31 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:41,277 some ways wish they were more wellknown 32 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,077 both for Palunteerians and because these 33 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,957 institutions that you know I rever like 34 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:51,517 um our military institutions and others would would get even more support if 35 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:55,197 people understood the impact they were having in clandestine services positive 36 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,397 impact. Now there are reasons they can't talk about these things and probably 37 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,197 shouldn't. It has changed from we are 38 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,477 like essentially the X-Men in a very 39 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:09,197 deep cave and uh and then being shuffled 40 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:13,277 back into the cave and told you know and but there's still a lot of that like I 41 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:17,197 you know I I always get in trouble for saying the obvious fact that besid with 42 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,957 without PG Europe would be completely different politically. 43 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,037 >> Oh yeah >> and this is just just a fact. 44 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,997 >> I think I think US might be as well. We probably shouldn't talk too much about 45 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,797 this because you don't see as a big of a problem. But I mean, I think a lot of 46 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:33,037 the battles we're having that are cultural wars right now over things 47 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,597 might not be the battles we'd be having if there had been multiple successful 48 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:36,557 attacks, right? I think the culture 49 00:02:36,640 --> 00:02:37,757 would have transformed in a very 50 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:42,797 different direction. Yes, the America is 51 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:44,717 there was there's a lot that has gone 52 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,277 into the the the the some of the 53 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,877 luxuries we have including certain uh 54 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:55,517 dialogues that are clearly um luxury product. 55 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:57,037 >> So Alex, we started American Optimist to 56 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,597 push back against cynicism and pessimism you see in a lot of parts of our 57 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,637 country. Uh what innovations and breakthroughs make you most excited 58 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,077 about the next 20 years? What what gives you hope for the next next few decades? 59 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,557 America is by far the best at enterprise 60 00:03:08,640 --> 00:03:13,277 software. You see this, you saw this before AI and large language models. I 61 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:17,917 think at this point it's kind of hard to ignore. We have we continue to attract 62 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:19,917 and retain the best talent in the world. 63 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,837 We have cultural and cultural systems for managing that talent and turning 64 00:03:23,920 --> 00:03:25,837 that into productive companies like some 65 00:03:25,920 --> 00:03:28,797 of the ones you support in finance and I 66 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,637 would say most notably Palunteer. Um and 67 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,677 um I think a lot of the kind of uh and 68 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,477 then we have uh there's a way in which 69 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:43,037 uh our adversaries who are really focused on hurting us galvanize and 70 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,117 bring the best out of America and allow 71 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,077 us in many cases to look past divisions 72 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,277 that are quite obviously less important 73 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:55,277 than us unifying uh to outmaneuver and 74 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,437 be stronger than our adversaries and 75 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,677 leave them so scared that they act up 76 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:04,237 less and quiver at uh the idea that uh 77 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:09,277 rule of law, free speech, protecting protection of property and in general 78 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:14,120 respect of humans is a basic human right.