1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,532 You support not just the populist right but the far right in fact very fringe 2 00:00:03,616 --> 00:00:04,237 parties in some 3 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:08,947 countries I support the normal people okay what you call the far right falsely you 4 00:00:09,031 --> 00:00:09,637 think is the 5 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:15,880 normal person okay yes um literally you could you could go back uh 10 or 15 years 6 00:00:15,964 --> 00:00:17,037 and these these 7 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:22,028 these policies were completely normal in fact you you one of the one of the tricks 8 00:00:22,111 --> 00:00:22,945 I think is 9 00:00:23,240 --> 00:00:28,065 funny what I think is that's quite funny is to like take a speech from Obama 10 00:00:28,148 --> 00:00:29,357 and Hillary and then 11 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:35,135 and and go to someone say uh who's sort of um you know on the sort of what I call 12 00:00:35,219 --> 00:00:36,277 the lunatic left 13 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:40,173 um and say what do you think of the speech by Trump like oh wow he's the worst person 14 00:00:40,257 --> 00:00:44,307 ever actually that was a speech by Obama or actually that was a speech by Hillary 15 00:00:45,160 --> 00:00:50,019 I I I agree no I agree that the center of gravity in this country has shifted 16 00:00:50,102 --> 00:00:50,597 certainly 17 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:52,955 the Democratic party shifted to the left but that's not what I'm talking about I'm 18 00:00:53,039 --> 00:00:53,157 talking 19 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:57,680 about people like Rupert Lowe people it's actually just normal people um it's just 20 00:00:57,763 --> 00:00:58,397 normal people 21 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:02,242 it's just normal people And um the and and here are the principles and and tell me 22 00:01:02,326 --> 00:01:06,403 which of these sound terrible. Um that we should have secure borders, 23 00:01:06,486 --> 00:01:08,480 that we should have safe cities, 24 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:14,037 uh that we should have sensible spending. Which of those three are are are far right 25 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:14,960 fringe and and 26 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:22,585 I would like to just admonish you and the media for the absurd characterization 27 00:01:22,668 --> 00:01:24,037 of the far right. 28 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:28,327 It is false and misleading and nonsense. Please keep this part in. 29 00:01:28,410 --> 00:01:32,379 We'll keep all of this in. But [laughter] let me let me let me Don't cut this part. 30 00:01:32,463 --> 00:01:33,997 Let me push back on that. Let me push 31 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:38,503 back on that because you have nonsense. Elon, you have what is it? 32 00:01:38,587 --> 00:01:43,896 Close to 250 million followers on X. Yeah. You say things like popular guy. Quote, 33 00:01:43,980 --> 00:01:46,317 "Civil war in Britain is inevitable." 34 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:50,170 Just a question. On the current trend. Yes. I mean, 35 00:01:50,253 --> 00:01:53,117 when were you last in the UK? Um, a few 36 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,484 years ago. Exactly. So, so I live there. I'm there the whole time. 37 00:01:56,567 --> 00:01:58,117 That is not you live in a closed 38 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:02,379 existence. No, I don't actually. And the numbers also disprove what you say. 39 00:02:02,462 --> 00:02:03,557 What numbers? All the 40 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,796 numbers about London is a much safer city than any city in the United States. 41 00:02:07,879 --> 00:02:11,375 Violent crime in the UK is not where you think it is. In fact, it's coming down. 42 00:02:11,458 --> 00:02:12,917 You you have painted and because you 43 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:16,386 have so many followers, so many Americans believe it. 44 00:02:16,469 --> 00:02:19,397 A a kind of view that Europe in and the UK are 45 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,833 kind of, you know, overrun with terrifying Muslim immigrants. 46 00:02:22,916 --> 00:02:24,917 There's rape on every corner. there's 47 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:29,619 a sort of civilizational destruction. I haven't said any of those things. 48 00:02:29,703 --> 00:02:31,120 If you have uh a large 49 00:02:31,920 --> 00:02:38,920 uh and growing rapidly growing uh group of of people whose beliefs are antithetical 50 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:45,073 to western beliefs um at some point there will be a reckoning that that they they 51 00:02:45,156 --> 00:02:46,397 will they will try 52 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:51,072 to implement their views and those who oppose it will oppose it and that's what 53 00:02:51,156 --> 00:02:52,280 you call civil war. 54 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:58,696 And obviously this is the trend. Um and uh and and you absolutely do live in 55 00:02:58,779 --> 00:03:03,619 a cloistered existence. And if you'd like we can go on a tour of Britain. Sure. 56 00:03:03,702 --> 00:03:06,197 Happy to come on a tour of Britain. And then 57 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:09,349 and you will see for yourself. Come see my country that I live in all the time 58 00:03:09,432 --> 00:03:13,377 and you haven't been to a few years. I've been there literally a hundred times. 59 00:03:13,461 --> 00:03:14,877 But when was the last time? 60 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,837 Literally a few years ago. You know why I this exercises me? 61 00:03:17,920 --> 00:03:19,420 because you have really shaped 62 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:24,718 opinion about the UK and so many Americans I come across and I have conversations 63 00:03:24,802 --> 00:03:25,197 with and 64 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:29,096 they'll be and I just had one the other day along the order of oh London such 65 00:03:29,179 --> 00:03:29,957 a dangerous place 66 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,375 how can you know there are sort of grooming gangs everywhere there are 67 00:03:33,459 --> 00:03:34,157 there's violence 68 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:38,953 everywhere this is a picture that people get from things that you post or that are 69 00:03:39,037 --> 00:03:39,597 posted on X 70 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:45,186 and for example you're you're posting for what was it 48 hours of Citizen Vigilante 71 00:03:45,270 --> 00:03:46,197 that film which 72 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,708 you know paints a dystopian. I've watched it. Yes, it was not fun. 73 00:03:49,791 --> 00:03:51,517 I watched it yesterday. It's not a 74 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:56,164 very good movie, but it's also paints a dystopian picture of Europe and it 75 00:03:56,247 --> 00:03:57,357 glorifies vigilante 76 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:01,161 violence. It glorifies the murdering of a Muslim immigrant family. 77 00:04:01,244 --> 00:04:05,169 I honestly think that it is irresponsible for you to put that up on X. 78 00:04:05,253 --> 00:04:08,640 I think that it's it's a movie um and it's worth watching. 79 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,594 People say that you're a racist. What is the motivation for doing that? 80 00:04:12,678 --> 00:04:13,397 Are you fermenting? 81 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:20,003 My partner is is is um she's half Indian and my my and I have four children 82 00:04:20,086 --> 00:04:22,200 with her. Um you know um 83 00:04:23,840 --> 00:04:27,494 one of them was named after a famous Indian physicist. 84 00:04:27,578 --> 00:04:29,917 Um so I I would say I'm not racist. 85 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:35,498 And also uh the you know if you look at the people that are employed at 86 00:04:35,581 --> 00:04:36,760 my companies um 87 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:42,477 you know we have senior executives of all races. Uh there there's there's 88 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:49,033 I don't think there's any racism there. Are you anti-Muslim? 89 00:04:49,116 --> 00:04:51,520 Um I am I'm against uh 90 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:58,600 having if if if if people are coming to a country with 91 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:07,000 antithetical views um I I am against that. I I'm against that, you know. 92 00:05:07,367 --> 00:05:08,800 I'm against um 93 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:18,720 I I I'm against rape and murder. I'm against uh the imposition of rules 94 00:05:21,015 --> 00:05:23,240 and laws that are 95 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:32,240 contrary to what we've come to accept in the west. Um, and um, 96 00:05:35,840 --> 00:05:40,669 and I think it's a it's it's a crying shame that the sort of traditional media 97 00:05:40,752 --> 00:05:41,760 like you um, uh, 98 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,917 don't recognize this. Why should you be able to shape European politics? Wasn't 99 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:50,239 you don't even live there. I think of it as the sort of the West collectively. 100 00:05:50,322 --> 00:05:54,788 But do you see why this makes people think that this man who has all this power, 101 00:05:54,872 --> 00:05:56,477 he's the world's richest man, 102 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:01,077 he thinks he has a right to influence our politics. It makes people It's why, 103 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,299 you know, we started this conversation saying superlatives. 104 00:06:03,383 --> 00:06:04,733 It's why people loathe you. 105 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,393 I mean, some people do loathe you. Yes, some people do. 106 00:06:08,476 --> 00:06:12,477 But do you understand why do you think what you're doing is helpful for Western? 107 00:06:12,561 --> 00:06:15,117 Maybe maybe some people do loathe me. I And that's 108 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:22,019 and that's probably true. I don't care. Um the uh but but the fact that uh as you 109 00:06:22,103 --> 00:06:22,957 pointed out 110 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:27,681 a quarter billion people follow me is that I think a lot more people actually like me 111 00:06:27,764 --> 00:06:28,598 than don't 112 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:33,800 and I think a lot more people hate you and the media uh more than you realize.