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WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THESE
PEOPLE THAT ARE TOUCHING OUR PRODUCTS AND

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LIVING IN THE WORLD GET A SENSE
OF WHERE THE TECHNOLOGY IS AND

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WHAT THE KIND OF RISKS
WE HAVE TO MITIGATE ARE.

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>> DO YOU FEEL LIKE THERE'S
JUST MORE ATTENTION ON OPENAI?

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IT FEELS LIKE OTHERS HAVE NOT HAD
THE SAME LEVEL OF INCIDENTS, OR IT'S.

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>> KIND OF WHAT I WAS TRYING
TO GET AT THERE. WE JUST TOUCHED

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SO MANY PEOPLE AND WE DO
SO MUCH DIFFERENT STUFF.

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>> OKAY, SO JEN-HSUN HUANG, NVIDIA'S CEO,
PUT OUT THIS BASICALLY PIECE OF SOFTWARE

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THAT HE SAID WOULD HAVE PREVENTED HUGGING
FACE. AND HE SAID, IT'S AN ENGINEERING

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PROBLEM. OPENAI DIDN'T SIGN
ON TO THAT PROJECT. WHY NOT

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ANTHROPIC AND OTHERS DID.
DO YOU AGREE WITH JENSEN THAT IT

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COULD HAVE BEEN SOLVED?
>> I FROM WHAT I KNOW ABOUT IT

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AND I'M NOT SUPER INTO IT,
THE DETAILS, I THINK IT'S A GOOD

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THING. I THINK WE ARE DOING
SIMILAR THINGS. I DON'T THINK

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IT'S A FULL SOLUTION,
AND I WORRY THAT IF WE TREAT AI

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SAFETY AS ONLY AN ENGINEERING

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PROBLEM, WE WILL MISS THE VERY

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IMPORTANT POINT THAT WE HAVE.
WE HAVE A SCIENCE PROBLEM IN

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FRONT OF US. WE STILL HAVE DISCOVERY ABOUT
HOW TO ALIGN THESE MODELS, AND WE HAVE TO

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SOLVE THAT SCIENTIFIC PROBLEM TOO.

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>> OKAY. AT THE SAME TIME,
AS WE MENTIONED, WE ARE HERE AT

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DEVELOPER DAY. YOU HAVE.
I MEAN, IT LOOKS LIKE HUNDREDS OF

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DEVELOPERS COMPANIES.
I WOULD THINK INVESTORS HERE TOO. HOW

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ARE YOU TOEING THE LINE BETWEEN
TRYING TO GET THESE PEOPLE TO

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USE YOUR TECHNOLOGY, SHOW THEM
HOW GREAT IT IS, BUT AT THE

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SAME TIME, TELL THEM THAT IT'S SAFE.

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>> I MEAN, I THINK IT'S A SIMILAR THRUST,
LIKE PEOPLE WANT TO BE ABLE TO USE THIS

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TECHNOLOGY AND KNOW THAT IT'S GOING TO BE
SAFE. SO I THINK PART OF IT BEING GREAT

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TECHNOLOGY IS TO HAVE IT BE
THE SAFEST, MOST ALIGNED, MOST

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DEPENDABLE AI IN THE INDUSTRY.

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>> ONE QUESTION ON LIABILITY.
SO IF SOMETHING DOES GO WRONG,

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SO SAY ONE OF THESE STARTUPS HERE BUILDS A
GREAT APP USING OPENAI AND SOMETHING GOES

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TERRIBLY WRONG. YEAH. WHOSE FAULT IS THAT?

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>> THE LIABILITY FRAMEWORK
IS BEING DEBATED A LOT IN THE

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WORLD RIGHT NOW. I SUSPECT LIKE
OTHER INDUSTRIES, THERE WILL BE

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A SORT OF MULTI-LEVEL THING.
LIKE IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE

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AUTO INDUSTRY, FOR EXAMPLE,
IF THERE'S FAULTY PARTS, YOU KNOW,

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YOU CAN BE LIABLE IN SOME WAYS
THERE. IF THE CAR MANUFACTURER

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PUTS THEM TOGETHER IN A WAY
THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THE SPEC OF

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WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO,
AND THE CAR MANUFACTURER COULD

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BE. AND IF SOMEONE'S DRIVING
DRUNK, IT'S THEIR FAULT. SO,

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YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON WHETHER
THE FAULT IS IN THE MODEL AND

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HOW IT'S USED OR SOMEONE
MISUSING IT INTENTIONALLY, I

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ASSUME WE'LL HAVE LIKE A,
YOU KNOW, A NEW LIABILITY FRAMEWORK.

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>> WHAT IS YOUR PITCH TODAY
TO DEVELOPERS? COST SEEMS LIKE

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IT'S BEEN A BIG THEME FOR YOU
GUYS, BUT WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO

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TELL PEOPLE ON STAGE IN TERMS
OF WHY OPENAI? WHY CHATGPT IN

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YOUR MIND IS THE BEST
OPTION FOR THESE GUYS?

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>> WE HAVE MORE THAN 20 ANNOUNCEMENTS
TODAY, SO WE'LL BE TELLING.

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>> THEM, GIVE US A FLAVOR. >> A LOT.

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>> OF WHAT ARE WE WHAT
ARE WE GOING TO HEAR?

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>> I MEAN, NEW WAYS TO USE AI,
NEW SORT OF LIKE NEW ABILITY TO

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HAVE AI SYSTEMS WORKING FOR YOU
AND HELPING YOU ALL THE TIME.

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NEW MODELS. WE'LL TALK ABOUT
THE COST ISSUE. WE REALLY AND

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YOU KNOW, A LOT OF NEW TOOLS
FOR DEVELOPERS. IT'S REALLY A

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LOT OF, I THINK, EXCITING STUFF.

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IT IS COOL TO SEE ALL OF THIS
COME TOGETHER AND THE DEGREE TO

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WHICH I THINK WE JUST HAVE THE BEST
OFFERING FOR DEVELOPERS ACROSS THE BOARD.

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>> COST IS SUCH A CENTRAL TOPIC HERE.
AND WE'VE ALSO TALKED

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BEFORE ABOUT THE ISSUE
OF DISTILLATION. I MEAN, SOME OF

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THE OPEN SOURCE MODELS THAT ARE
CHEAPER. YOU AND ANTHROPIC HAVE

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ACCUSED OF BASICALLY COPYING
YOUR TECHNOLOGY. HOW ARE YOU

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FEELING ABOUT DISTILLATION
AND THOSE MODELS?

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>> I THINK WE HAVE THE BEST
MODELS TO OFFER AT EVERY PRICE

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POINT. YEAH. AND I DON'T THINK
LIKE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE DO TALK

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ABOUT OPEN SOURCE, BUT I DON'T
THINK THERE'S ANY OPEN SOURCE

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MODEL OUT THERE THAT YOU CAN
RUN THAT BEATS US ON A COST

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PRICE COMPARISON. AND SPEAKING
OF COST, GENERALLY COME WATCH.

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WE GOT WE GOT SOME. >> COOL STUFF.
OKAY. WELL, AGENTS AS WELL. SO MARK

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ZUCKERBERG AND MUSE HAVE MADE
A LOT OF PROGRESS. IT SEEMS LIKE

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IN AGENTS AND HARDWARE. WHAT DO YOU
MAKE OF MUSE? HAVE YOU TRIED IT AT ALL?

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>> I'VE TRIED IT.
IT SEEMS LIKE A NICE PRODUCT.

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>> ARE YOU THREATENED
BY ZUCKERBERG AT ALL?

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>> NO. >> NOT AT ALL. >> WELL, I MEAN,
HE'S LIKE A VERY IMPRESSIVE PERSON. AND

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THAT COMPANY HAS, LIKE GREAT RESOURCES.
BUT I FEEL VERY GOOD ABOUT OUR ROADMAP.

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>> HE'S ALSO SHOWED WHAT'S POSSIBLE
WITH HARDWARE. WHERE'S JOHNNY?

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>> I'VE I DON'T WANT TO SPOIL
YOUR SURPRISE, BUT I THINK WE

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WILL HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S
WORTH WAITING FOR TODAY.

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>> WE MAY HAVE SOME HARDWARE.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING?

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OKAY, WELL, WHAT IS THE PLAN
IN HARDWARE AND DOES IT PUT MORE

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PRESSURE TO HAVE AN EVEN BETTER
PRODUCT? IF MARK ZUCKERBERG

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SEEMS TO HAVE KIND OF GOTTEN
OUT OF THE GATES FIRST, EVEN

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THOUGH MAYBE SOME OF THEIR
STUFF IS STILL IN THE WORKS.

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>> I AM NOT WORRIED ABOUT BEING
FIRST WITH NEW HARDWARE. NEW

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HARDWARE IS VERY HARD TO DO,
LIKE NEW COMPUTING FORM FACTORS

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COME ALONG VERY RARELY,
AND THE QUALITY BAR THAT WE WANT TO HIT

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FOR SOMETHING THAT LIKE YOU
WILL LOVE AND REALLY BE A KEY

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PART OF THE WAY YOU INTERFACE
WITH AI, THAT'S GOING TO TAKE A

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WHILE, AND WE'RE GOING TO DO
THAT AT A HIGH LEVEL OF QUALITY.

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>> I ALSO WANT TO ASK ABOUT
THE PERCEPTION. WE WERE JUST

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TALKING ABOUT THE SNL WEEKEND
UPDATE. THERE IS OBVIOUSLY A

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MOVIE ABOUT YOU. I DON'T KNOW
IF YOU'VE SEEN THE TRAILER.

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THERE'S SOME ISSUES IN TERMS
OF PUBLIC PERCEPTION AND JUST THIS,

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THIS THOUGHT THAT MAYBE YOU
MAYBE DARIO AMODEI AS LEADERS

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DON'T HAVE THE BEST REPUTATION RIGHT NOW.

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>> I MEAN, I THINK EVERYONE
DOING SOMETHING THIS IMPORTANT

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TO SOCIETY DESERVES GREAT SCRUTINY.
I DID SEE THE MOVIE

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TRAILER. I MEAN, IT LOOKS
LIKE AN AWFUL MOVIE, BUT I

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APPRECIATE PEOPLE'S CREATIVITY
AND I REALLY DO SUPPORT THAT.

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SO I HOPE, I HOPE THEY
HAVE A FUN TIME WITH IT. THE