1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,557 So, you don't think UIPs use obstacle 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:07,597 camouflage? >> Um, I think that to the you there's a 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:11,117 lot that we don't understand about these vehicles and what they are, where or 4 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:12,717 when they come from. 5 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,117 >> Uh, 6 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:19,277 but it is likely that whatever they are 7 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,877 doing is a a side effect or an artifact 8 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,397 of what's going on. So, like like like I've I've talked about this with people. 9 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,917 They're like, well, you know, how come how come uh you know, how come like 10 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,957 sometimes they're invisible in certain spectrums? And my point is, well, like 11 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,997 what if they are not interacting with reality itself in a way you would 12 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,517 expect? Like some of these things, you see them and they don't have any radar 13 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,397 signature either. I don't know if that means they're cloaking themselves 14 00:00:42,480 --> 00:00:44,717 actively or if it means that just they 15 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:49,437 do not exist even in the way that we think about physical matter. I don't 16 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:53,357 know if it's an active countermeasure so much as the nature of the thing itself. 17 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:54,557 But of course, there's so much that we 18 00:00:54,640 --> 00:01:00,397 don't know. My current working theory is that they come from the past. So 19 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:02,877 >> interesting. Okay. >> Coming from the future is too hard. The 20 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:06,637 physics just don't seem to work out. But if you think about it um think about it 21 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,997 in a certain perspective like there's a question of where they come from. Like 22 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,797 do they come from Earth? Do they come from nearby? Do they come from really 23 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,677 really far away wherever wherever 24 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:20,157 wherever they come from you know spatially? The question then is okay 25 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:24,797 temporally what is more likely that they happen to have come from this particular 26 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:28,477 instant in time or the hundreds of millions or billions of years that ex 27 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:32,557 existed prior to our existence. Um you know that could be true if they were 28 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:36,397 just like waiting around and then came over you know at some point. It could be 29 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,277 the case if they are regularly surveying and have just been around for a long 30 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,397 time. You could imagine a world where maybe the earth hosted advanced 31 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,517 civilizations a billion years ago and we just don't even know about them and 32 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:49,917 these are the remnants of that. I'm not betting on any of these. It's just that 33 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:54,157 where wherever they come from geographically, uh there's a very very 34 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,677 long tale of time and also there's ways to travel forward through time very 35 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:01,277 quickly. You know, if I create a very strong gravity distortion, I can have 36 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,677 subjective time inside of that bubble 37 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:08,637 passing very very slowly relative to the time racing by outside of it. And so 38 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:12,317 it's very believable that something from the distant past could come to our 39 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,677 present. It's not really believable that something can come from the future back 40 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:17,757 into our present. So that's my that's my 41 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:19,837 bet is basically given that there's been 42 00:02:19,920 --> 00:02:24,237 a lot more time before now than now 43 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,677 just probabilistically speaking I think it's likely these things have been 44 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:29,997 around for a very long time uh and 45 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:34,957 either spent a long time coming to us or to themselves subjectively not much time 46 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:38,877 at all. >> Oh >> that's look I'm I'm not I'm not saying I 47 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:43,757 I know what's up. That's just my >> not saying I know but some ideas 48 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,357 >> I'm not saying I know what's up. I'm saying that is my current guess. 49 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,197 >> Okay. >> Based on what I know. 50 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,637 >> Interesting. You said this was like your most underrated product. 51 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:54,637 >> So why is >> Oh, sorry. And last like the real bet 52 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,837 here is I don't think any of these UAPs I think it's unlikely they were 53 00:02:57,920 --> 00:03:02,477 manufactured or created like within the last few years. That seems 54 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,997 >> that seems very unlikely. >> I I I I think they've either been around 55 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,837 for a very long time, stored for a very long time, created a very long time ago, 56 00:03:09,920 --> 00:03:13,117 or traveled from the distant past into our present. 57 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:17,037 >> Let's see. this that it's impossible to say. You know, 58 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,437 this is the theory of course like you know that the that there's these 59 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:23,597 undersea alien bases that these things are destroyed there there's an outof 60 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:28,317 print book called the uh the UFOs and USOs of a Santa Catalina channel and 61 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:32,157 it's all about how people have seen these things that have gone into and out 62 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:36,797 of the ocean in extremely similar ways over the course of decades. And so like 63 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,437 it's it's believable. But of course being stored on Earth does not 64 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:43,517 necessarily mean they came from here nor does it not. But I I would bet that 65 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:47,517 these things are not recently manufactured. I suspect they've been 66 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,077 around for either a long time or maybe a 67 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:53,197 really really long time. 68 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,437 >> How does that make you feel about our 69 00:03:55,520 --> 00:04:00,397 technological superiority? >> I think that uh I think the UAP stuff 70 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:04,077 and our technological development live in completely parallel development 71 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:08,797 tracks right now. If and when we figure out what's going on with UAPs, UFOs, 72 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:10,797 that whole universe, uh every 73 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:17,680 everything's going to change and uh this this won't be relevant.