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ROGUE AI HACKS ACROSS SEVERAL
COMPANIES. IT'S A RISK OUR NEXT

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GUEST HAS BEEN WARNING THE TECH
INDUSTRY ABOUT FOR MONTHS, HIS

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COMPANY WRITING IN JUNE YOUR
AI SOVEREIGNTY DICTATES YOUR

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INSTITUTION'S FUTURE.
HERE WITH US NOW AT POST NINE. IN A CNBC

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EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW WITH
PALANTIR CO-FOUNDER AND CEO

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ALEX KARP. WELCOME BACK.
IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU. DELIGHTED TO.

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>> BE HERE. YOU KNOW,
I'VE BEEN HERE MANY TIMES WITH YOU.

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>> YES. >> AND YOU GUYS ARE TOUGH.
BUT AMONG MY FAVORITES.

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>> OKAY. WELL THANK YOU. >> YOU KNOW YEAH.

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>> WE'RE EXCITED TO TALK
TO YOU BECAUSE THIS IS A REALLY

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IMPORTANT WEEK. AND THERE'S
BEEN THIS EXPLOSION OF AI

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SAFETY WARNINGS. WHERE DO YOU STAND? WELL.

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>> OKAY, WE'VE WE'VE BEEN
IN THE FOREFRONT OF USING AI IN

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THE MILITARY CONTEXT.
THE FIRST COMPANY TO BUILD ACTUALLY A

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FUNCTIONAL AI TECHNOLOGY,
AS IS CURRENTLY WELL KNOWN, WE'RE

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DOMINATING THE APPLICATION SPACE.
WE HAVE A PRODUCT. SO

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THERE'S A LOT OF WE HAVE A LOT
OF EXPERIENCE WITH LIKE WHAT

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WORKS, WHAT DOESN'T.
THERE ARE REALLY DIFFERENT KINDS OF

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SAFETY ISSUES, QUITE FRANKLY,

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ALMOST ALL MY. WE DOMINATE US

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COMMERCIAL AS A COMPANY AND THE
CLIENTS, OUR PARTNERS ARE LIVID

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AT THE KIND OF SAFETY THEY'RE
MOST UPSET ABOUT, WHAT THEY

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BELIEVE IS THE THEFT OF THEIR ALPHA,
MEANING THEIR IDEAS OF

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HOW TO RUN A BUSINESS,
THEIR DATA IN LANDING IN A MODEL, AND

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THEY FIND OUT THAT THE COMPETITOR
NEXT DOOR HAS ALL OF

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THEIR ALPHA MEANING HOW THEY
DO THEIR BUSINESS, AND THEY PAID

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FOR IT. I MEAN, I CAN'T REPEAT
WHAT THE CUSTOMERS ARE SAYING,

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BUT THEY'RE BASICALLY LIKE ONE
TO GIVE YOU THE ONE THAT WAS

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THE LEAST VULGAR. IT'S LIKE,
BUT BUT HOW CAN THEY TELL ME

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NOT TO WEAR A CONDOM LIKE THIS IS?
AND THAT'S THE LEAST VULGAR

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PERSON THAT WE DEAL WITH. THEY'RE LIKE
LIVID. AND SO THEY'RE LIVID. SO THAT'S.

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>> WAIT, CAN YOU JUST TRANSLATE
WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? SO

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IS THIS BECAUSE THE LMS
FAULT THEY'RE SHARING.

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>> NO, NO. OPEN THE REASON
WHY THE SOVEREIGNTY REVOLUTION,

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WHICH WE HELPED LAUNCH TOGETHER

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WITH OUR PARTNER JEN-HSUN HUANG,

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THE FAMOUS FOUNDER AND HEAD OF

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NVIDIA, IS THE WHEN YOU USE
A CLOSED MODEL AND YOU PAY FOR

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TOKENS, YOU'RE NOT.
THE REASON THE TOKENS ARE DISCOUNTED IS

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NOT. SO THEY CAN GROW THE MARKET. THEY'RE
DISCOUNTED SO THAT THEY CAN GET ACCESS. TO

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THEIR IP SO THAT THEIR MODELS GET BETTER.
AND THERE WAS FUNCTIONALLY NO HONEST

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CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS OR DISCLOSURE. NOW
THAT'S POINT ONE. POINT TWO IS WITHOUT AN

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APPLICATION LAYER AND WITHOUT
POST TRAINING, WHICH IS

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CURRENTLY BEING DONE WITH OPEN
WEIGHT MODELS, YOU IN THE

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CLASSIFIED SIDE. AND IT'S
JUST TAKING OFF ACROSS AMERICA

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BECAUSE IT'S CHEAPER AND ENDS
UP BEING SAFER. AND YOU CONTROL

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YOUR FUTURE AND YOUR PRESENT,
YOU ARE DE FACTO OUTSOURCING

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THE VALUE OF, BY THE WAY,
IT'S VERY MUCH LINKED TO THE SAFETY

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CONCERNS. NOW, DARIO IS ONE OF THE MOST
IMPORTANT ENTREPRENEURS. I'VE BEEN AT

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THIS FOR A LONG TIME.
I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYONE COME FROM THE

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BACK. TO YOU. LIKE, I HAVE
A LOT OF RESPECT FOR HIM, AND I

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HAVE A LOT OF RESPECT FOR HIM
BECAUSE HE'S ACTUALLY BELIEVES,

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OF COURSE, HE'S A BUSINESS
PERSON TOO, MOST SOMETIMES. SO

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OF COURSE, WHEN THE COMPANY'S
NOT DOING AS WELL, THESE THINGS

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COME FORWARD AND THEY TALK ABOUT SAFETY.
AND WHEN IT'S DOING BETTER, THEY.

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>> THINK THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON.

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>> I DON'T THINK THAT'S
ACTUALLY WHAT'S DRIVING THIS.

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BUT YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT DOES
HAPPEN REGULARLY. BUT I THINK

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THAT, YOU KNOW, HE'S WHAT MAKES
HIM SO STRONG IS HE'S ETHICAL

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AND A BUSINESS PERSON. OKAY.
SO BUT BUT BUT WHAT'S ACTUALLY

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HAPPENING IS VERY DIFFERENT
THAN WHAT PEOPLE ARE REPORTING.

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EVERYONE THINKS THIS IS A SAFETY
VERSUS NON SAFETY VERSUS

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REGULATION. WHAT, WHAT WHAT HE,

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I BELIEVE IS REALIZED
IS IT IF YOU IF YOU TAKE THE

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PHILOSOPHICAL FRAME THEY HAVE,
WHICH IS WE ARE DESERVING OF

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HAVING ALL THE IP IN THE WORLD,
WE THE THOUSAND PEOPLE WHO

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THINK THE WAY WE DO. THAT'S WHY YOU CAN'T
WORK WITH THE MILITARY. THAT'S WHY YOU CAN

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TAKE THE IP FROM BUSINESSES AND

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PUT IT IN YOUR MODEL THAT THAT

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MODEL WOULD REQUIRE SEVERE
LIABILITY PROTECTION. AND

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THERE'S ONLY ONE INSTITUTION THAT CAN DO
THAT, THE US GOVERNMENT. AND THEN THAT'S

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BEFORE YOU GET TO THE DANGER.
SO WHAT WHAT'S REALLY HAPPENING

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IS THE INVESTORS LOVED WHEN HE
WAS MIGRATING ALL THE VALUE OF

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EVERYONE ELSE'S BUSINESS
TO THEIR BUSINESS, BECAUSE THEY'RE

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INVESTORS, THEY DON'T REALIZE.

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IT'S LIKE, IT'S LIKE EVERY MARK,
THEY DON'T REALIZE THEY'RE THE

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MARK BECAUSE NOW YOU FIRST
YOU MIGRATE ALL THE IP TO YOUR

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BUSINESS, AND THEN BECAUSE YOU
NEED UNCAPPED, YOU NEED CAPPED

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LIABILITY, BOTH VIS A VIS
THE BUSINESS AND VIS A VIS THE

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DANGERS. YOU'VE GOT TO MIGRATE
THE BUSINESS TO THE GOVERNMENT.

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IT HAS TO BE NATIONALIZED.
SO IT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING. THIS

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IS REPORTED AS REGULATION
NON-REGULATION MOVEMENT. THAT'S

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ACTUALLY NOT WHAT THIS MOVEMENT IS.
IT'S LIKE THE VIEW THAT I

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BELIEVE THEY HAVE IS THESE BUSINESSES
HAVE TO BE NATIONALIZED, BECAUSE IF YOU

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DON'T NATIONALIZE THEM, EVERY SINGLE
ONE OF MY CLIENTS IS GOING TO SUE.

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>> THAT'S YOU THINK THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT?

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>> WELL, OBVIOUSLY,
LIKE IF YOU HAVE A BUSINESS THAT

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PRESUPPOSES UNLIMITED RISK,
BOTH VIS A VIS LIABILITY RISK

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VIS A VIS THE CLIENTS,
BECAUSE I DON'T THINK ANY OF OUR

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CLIENTS REALIZE THEIR IP
WAS MIGRATING VIS A VIS THE WORLD.

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BECAUSE YOU'RE SAYING,
WHAT IS THE LIABILITY RISK FOR

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DESTROYING 10% OF THE COMPANY,
10% OF THE WORLD DISCOUNTED

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INTO THE PRESENT. OKAY.
BUT THERE'S ONLY ONE INSTITUTION.

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AND BY THE WAY, THAT'S NOT ACTUALLY
WHAT'S HAPPENING. THEY WANT THREE INSTITU