1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,437 I think my road to being an entrepreneur 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,957 broadly defined. So building things um 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:10,157 now I would define my 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,757 role as building things that are that 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:18,077 transform key aspects of society that that's what we built at Palunteer. It's 6 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:20,157 a trans it's software as a transforming 7 00:00:20,240 --> 00:00:22,237 engine 8 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,757 really began uh with like many things 9 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,477 something I didn't want and was not 10 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,677 overly uh forward about in public which 11 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:35,677 was my dyslexia which I hid. So I was 12 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:37,837 very good at certain things and I would 13 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,597 say still am that other people are 14 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,477 not as good at. I legitimately saw the 15 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,037 world differently. My brain is was 16 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,917 structured differently than other people 17 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,797 and I was able to perform at a 18 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:54,797 professional level in certain areas even 19 00:00:54,880 --> 00:01:00,957 as a young kid but then really was 20 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,437 hindered in other areas. And we had this 21 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:07,357 weird family structure where 22 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,717 my mom was a in grad school as an artist 23 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:14,317 uh and everybody was an artist. 24 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:18,717 So they were outside the norm. Was a heavily Jewish environment. My mom is 25 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:20,797 black. 26 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,837 We were pro-Israel 27 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:28,557 uh and ve are ariodite, 28 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:30,557 heavily Jewish 29 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:36,157 environment. I everything about my life was further outside the norm than I 30 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:38,557 realized. >> It's like extreme outsider for for 31 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,677 >> there's no there's no insider bias with that. 32 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,877 >> I would have loved to be an insider somewhere. And the minute I could be an 33 00:01:44,960 --> 00:01:47,597 insider, I'm like, I'm dyslexic. 34 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,077 So, it's like I used to wonder as a 35 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,797 little kid, how could this get worse, 36 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:54,877 you I was like, but you know, I was 37 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:59,917 like, I mean, not I I not in a sense that I was, you know, thought that it 38 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,597 was bad, but I was like, this is just like, and I always thought from the 39 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:07,437 beginning, and this is why despite what people thought about Palanteer 40 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:13,197 sometimes, I view Palanteer as a civil liberties juggernaut. 41 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,837 That doesn't mean everyone in the civil liberties community will ever agree with 42 00:02:15,920 --> 00:02:20,557 us, but I always thought if fascism comes, I will be the first or second 43 00:02:20,640 --> 00:02:22,957 person on the wall >> because because you're like the most 44 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,237 outside who they're going to talk there's like and this is before I had 45 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,397 attendees. So now I was [laughter] like 46 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:29,917 no matter what happens, if something 47 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,597 goes wrong in society, I'm done for. And 48 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:35,757 um and you know, America's changed a 49 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,797 lot, but it it it just in every 50 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:43,757 environment I went into. Uh but but on the other hand I was also a deep 51 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:45,357 insider. So it's it's this insider 52 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:50,637 outsider you know um my family is just 53 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:54,957 so highly educated. Mhm. >> So it's not just the case that I was an 54 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,517 outsider but I was an insider in terms 55 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,357 of understanding 56 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,997 uh art, science to some extent uh math 57 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,917 through my father. Uh but but anything 58 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,037 historical or uh cultural through my 59 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,557 mom. I spent every weekend in museums at 60 00:03:14,640 --> 00:03:19,437 cultural events. It it took it took a decade before after leaving the home 61 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:20,717 before I could even go in a museum 62 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:24,317 because um because I I we just had to 63 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,957 spend so much time. And so that insider 64 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:31,677 outsider insider of uh what I would call 65 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:35,037 the the fundamental structures of 66 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,717 western thought and art which I then 67 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,677 later refined in grad school but while 68 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:45,597 simultaneously not belonging but but at 69 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:47,757 the same time believing and I believe 70 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:52,717 this still the only uh way in which uh 71 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:57,517 non-belonging people belong is in in the context of a western society that 72 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:01,277 protects the rule of law that protects the right of free expression that 73 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,757 protects your property rights that de 74 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,957 facto protects unpleasant people like 75 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,557 that it is the our societies are still 76 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:12,477 the best though flawed at protecting 77 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:14,637 people who are unpopular because of 78 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,757 their views because of their habits 79 00:04:17,840 --> 00:04:20,637 because of their of who they are and I 80 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,917 that resonates with me on all fronts and 81 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:28,397 in fact Um and then uh who make people 82 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:33,560 because I can see myself in all those people.