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maximize the future of civilization like

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basically maximize the probability that

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civilization has a great future. Um and

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uh to expand consciousness beyond earth.

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So take SpaceX for example that SpaceX

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is about build advancing rocket
technology to the point where we can

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extend life and consciousness beyond

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Earth uh to the moon to Mars uh

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eventually to other star systems and uh

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and I think we should always view

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consciousness uh life as we know it as

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as precarious and delicate um because to

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the best of our knowledge we we
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aliens among us?
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>> or you're from the future. >> They
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would know if there are aliens among us,

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it would be me. Um and uh we we have

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9,000 satellites up there and not once

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have we had to maneuver around an an

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alien spaceship. So I'm like I don't

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know. It's bottom line is I think we

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need to assume that life and

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consciousness is extremely rare and it

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might only be us. And if that's the

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case, then we need to do everything

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possible to to ensure that the the light

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of can light the light of consciousness

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is not extinguished because we're

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effectively the way I view it is the

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image in my mind is of a a tiny candle

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in a vast darkness, tiny candle of

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consciousness that could easily go out.

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Um and that's why it's important
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uh such that if there is a natural
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that consciousness continues with

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robotics and AI

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um this this is really the path to

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abundance for all. If you say, you know,

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uh solving global poverty or essentially

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how how do we make give everyone a very

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high standard of living? I I think the

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only way to do this is AI and robotics.

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need to be very careful with robotics.

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James Cameron movie, uh,

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you know, Terminator. He's he's great.

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Great movies. I love his movies. But but

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we don't want to be in Terminator

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obviously. Um but but we if you have um

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ubiquitous AI that is essentially free

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or close to it and ubiquitous robotics

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uh then uh you will have an an

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explosion in the in the global economy.

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beyond old precedent. And actually my

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prediction is in the in the benign
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robots we will actually make so many
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saturate all human needs. Meaning you

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won't be able to even think of something

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to ask the robot for at a certain point.

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in that scenario? Yeah. I mean, you

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know, there are nothing nothing's

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perfect, you know, but um like you can't

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have both. You can't have work that has

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abundance for all. Um because
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to be done, then then then you and and
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>> It's narrow. Exactly.
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if you have billions of humanoid
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going to have one and going to want one.

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robot to, you know, um, assuming it's

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very safe, uh, watch over your kids,

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take care of your pet. Uh if you have

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elderly parents, uh a lot of friends
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and there just aren't enough people
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young people to take care
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robot that could take care of and
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that would be great. That would be
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future of amazing abundance uh which is

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very cool. Um and uh and and definitely

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we are in the most
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>> You and I reverse
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time into uh the aging stuff. I I do

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reason I say it's not a subtle thing
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same rate. I've never seen someone with

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with an old left arm and a young right

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arm ever in my life. Um so why is that?

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it that that means that there must be a

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clock a synchronizing clock

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>> that is synchronizing
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cells in your body. There is some

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benefit to death by the way. It's like

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because if you if you have if people
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of society of of things just getting

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kind of locked in place. That said, do I

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life and um and maybe even reverse

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aging? I think that's highly likely.

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>> What would it take
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and what type of geography would it take

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to have that solar field to electrify
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ask a question. Why aren't we doing it?

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>> You could take basically
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percentage of the area of of the US to
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in the US, the the the tariff barriers

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for solar are are extremely high. Um and

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that makes the economics of deploying

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so artificially high because China makes

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almost all the solar. The SpaceX and

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to build to 100 gawatts a year of solar

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power in the US. By the by the end of

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humanoid robots uh to the public. um

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that that's when we are confident
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high safety. Um and the range
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software, we we update it sometimes once

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a week. Um and um recently some of the

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insurance companies have said that uh it

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half price insurance if they if they
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of the agreement then? Yeah,
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solved problem at this point, >> right?

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then we we hope to get supervised
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timing for China hopefully
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Uh AI will be smarter than uh all of

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humanity collectively.
We want to have like Starfleet

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and Star Star Trek really for for real
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spaceships traveling through space going
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philosoph philosophy of curiosity.
I'd like to understand u the meaning of

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life, you know.
the is the standard model of is the

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standard model of physics correct
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beginning of existence and the end
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we not know to ask that we should ask

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and AI will help us with these things um
so I'm just trying to understand how do

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we get here what's going on what's real
are there aliens maybe there are um and

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if if we've got if we got spaceships
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uh we may find we may encounter alien
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alien civilizations. >> Do you
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in your lifetime? >> Uh yeah.
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>> That's a long commitment. >> I've been
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>> Uh it's uh 6 months.
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die on Mars?" And I'm like,
"Yes, but just not on impact.