WEBVTT 00:00:00.640 --> 00:00:02.557 Did you think you were going to be able 00:00:02.640 --> 00:00:06.717 to get more done than you were? 00:00:06.800 --> 00:00:08.877 >> Um, we did get a lot done, >> right? 00:00:08.960 --> 00:00:13.917 >> Um, and Doge is still still still happening, by the way. Um, this the the 00:00:14.000 --> 00:00:15.757 Doge is still underway. There are still 00:00:15.840 --> 00:00:19.197 there are still um there's still waste 00:00:19.280 --> 00:00:23.917 and fraud being being cut by by the Doge team. So, it hasn't stopped. Um, the 00:00:24.000 --> 00:00:28.157 >> it's less publicized. >> It's less publicized. Um, and they don't 00:00:28.240 --> 00:00:31.117 have like a clear person to attack anymore. 00:00:31.200 --> 00:00:34.157 >> Well, it seems like once they basically 00:00:34.240 --> 00:00:38.717 they they applied immense pressure to me to just to stop it. So then I'm like the 00:00:38.800 --> 00:00:42.797 best thing for me is to just, you know, cut out of this. In any case, as a 00:00:42.880 --> 00:00:46.157 special government employee, I could only be there for like 120 days anyway, 00:00:46.240 --> 00:00:49.917 something like that. So, whatever the law says. So, I I could I I I was 00:00:50.000 --> 00:00:52.957 necessarily could only be there for 4 months uh as a special government 00:00:53.040 --> 00:00:56.477 employee. So, um 00:00:56.560 --> 00:00:59.757 um but uh yeah, I mean I mean you turn 00:00:59.840 --> 00:01:01.997 off the money spigot to to fraudsters, 00:01:02.080 --> 00:01:05.837 they get very upset to say the least. Um 00:01:05.920 --> 00:01:09.197 and um but my like my death threat level 00:01:09.280 --> 00:01:11.757 went uh ballistic, you know, was like a 00:01:11.840 --> 00:01:15.677 like a rocket going to orbit. Um 00:01:15.760 --> 00:01:21.197 yeah. Um, so but now that now now now that I'm not in DC that that I guess 00:01:21.280 --> 00:01:25.357 they don't really have a person to attack uh anymore. Um, 00:01:25.440 --> 00:01:29.437 >> well the rhetoric about you has calmed down significantly. 00:01:29.520 --> 00:01:31.837 >> Yeah, >> it was disturbing. It was disturbing to 00:01:31.920 --> 00:01:33.677 watch. It was like this is crazy. 00:01:33.760 --> 00:01:37.277 >> And to watch these politicians engage in it and all these people just like 00:01:37.360 --> 00:01:41.357 framing you. It was this monster. I was like this is so weird. Like this is what 00:01:41.440 --> 00:01:43.277 happens when you uncover fraud. 00:01:43.360 --> 00:01:46.077 >> Yes. >> The whole machine turns on you. And if 00:01:46.160 --> 00:01:47.917 it wasn't for a person like you who owns 00:01:48.000 --> 00:01:53.197 a platform and has an enormous amount of money, like could have destroyed you. 00:01:53.280 --> 00:01:54.797 >> Yeah. >> And that was the goal. 00:01:54.880 --> 00:01:56.557 >> The goal was to destroy me. Absolutely. 00:01:56.640 --> 00:02:00.797 >> Because you were getting in the way >> of this amazing graft. 00:02:00.880 --> 00:02:03.117 >> The the this gigantic fraud machine. 00:02:03.200 --> 00:02:03.757 >> Yeah. 00:02:03.840 --> 00:02:06.237 >> Um like I said, I think I think Doge 00:02:06.320 --> 00:02:10.157 team has done a lot of good work. Um, 00:02:10.240 --> 00:02:13.597 you know, and in in terms of uh fraud 00:02:13.680 --> 00:02:17.517 and waste prevented, my guess is it's, you know, probably on the order of two 00:02:17.600 --> 00:02:21.197 or 30 hundred billion a year. So, it's pretty good. 00:02:21.280 --> 00:02:24.237 >> What do you think could have been done if you just had like full reign and 00:02:24.320 --> 00:02:28.637 total cooperation? How much do you think you could have saved? 00:02:28.720 --> 00:02:31.437 >> I mean, what level of of power are we assuming here? 00:02:31.520 --> 00:02:34.237 >> Godlike. >> Oh, yeah. I probably cut the federal 00:02:34.320 --> 00:02:36.237 budget in half 00:02:36.320 --> 00:02:39.757 and get more done. 00:02:39.840 --> 00:02:43.357 That is so crazy. It is so crazy that 00:02:43.440 --> 00:02:47.997 it's get more done and federal widespread. It's that widespread. 00:02:48.080 --> 00:02:49.437 >> Well, I mean a whole bunch of government 00:02:49.520 --> 00:02:50.957 departments simply shouldn't exist in my 00:02:51.040 --> 00:02:54.957 opinion. Um they they um you know um 00:02:55.040 --> 00:02:58.317 >> like examples >> well the department of ed department of 00:02:58.400 --> 00:03:00.397 education which was created recently 00:03:00.480 --> 00:03:05.357 like under Jimmy Carter um uh the our 00:03:05.440 --> 00:03:08.317 educational results have uh gone uh 00:03:08.400 --> 00:03:12.557 downhill ever since it was created. So if you if you create a department and 00:03:12.640 --> 00:03:16.237 the result of creating that department is a massive decline in educational 00:03:16.320 --> 00:03:19.517 results and it's the department of education, you're better off not having 00:03:19.600 --> 00:03:24.797 it because we're literally we were did better before there was one than after 00:03:24.880 --> 00:03:26.157 when you let the states run it. 00:03:26.240 --> 00:03:28.877 >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> Because at least the states can compete 00:03:28.960 --> 00:03:33.917 with one another. Um so but the problem is like you hear like cutting department 00:03:34.000 --> 00:03:35.597 education. Our kids need education. like 00:03:35.680 --> 00:03:38.317 yeah they do but but this is a new 00:03:38.400 --> 00:03:41.197 department that didn't even exist um you 00:03:41.280 --> 00:03:45.197 know until late the late '7s. Um and 00:03:45.280 --> 00:03:49.277 ever since that department was created the results education results have 00:03:49.360 --> 00:03:51.517 declined 00:03:51.600 --> 00:03:54.477 and so why would you have an institution 00:03:54.560 --> 00:03:58.717 continue that has made education worse? 00:03:58.800 --> 00:04:01.117 It doesn't make sense. >> They killed it though, right? 00:04:01.200 --> 00:04:04.237 >> No, they still unfortunately >> but they were trying to kill it. it has 00:04:04.320 --> 00:04:06.717 been substantially reduced. >> Okay. 00:04:06.800 --> 00:04:09.997 >> Um >> what other organizations 00:04:10.080 --> 00:04:11.277 what other departments? 00:04:11.360 --> 00:04:14.317 >> Well, I mean I'm a small government guy. 00:04:14.400 --> 00:04:18.237 So um you know when when the you know 00:04:18.320 --> 00:04:19.917 when the country was created we just we 00:04:20.000 --> 00:04:22.077 we just had the department of state, 00:04:22.160 --> 00:04:26.637 department of war um you know and and uh 00:04:26.720 --> 00:04:28.157 sort of the sort of the department of 00:04:28.240 --> 00:04:30.477 justice. We had an attorney general uh 00:04:30.560 --> 00:04:34.877 and treasury department. Um, 00:04:34.960 --> 00:04:38.640 I don't know why you need more than that.