Did you think you were going to be able
to get more done than you were?
>> Um, we did get a lot done,
>> right?
>> Um, and Doge is still still still
happening, by the way. Um, this the the
Doge is still underway. There are still
there are still um there's still waste
and fraud being being cut by by the Doge
team. So, it hasn't stopped. Um, the
>> it's less publicized.
>> It's less publicized. Um, and they don't
have like a clear person to attack
anymore.
>> Well, it seems like once they basically
they they applied immense pressure to me
to just to stop it. So then I'm like the
best thing for me is to just, you know,
cut out of this. In any case, as a
special government employee, I could
only be there for like 120 days anyway,
something like that. So, whatever the
law says. So, I I could I I I was
necessarily could only be there for 4
months uh as a special government
employee. So, um
um but uh yeah, I mean I mean you turn
off the money spigot to to fraudsters,
they get very upset to say the least. Um
and um but my like my death threat level
went uh ballistic, you know, was like a
like a rocket going to orbit. Um
yeah. Um, so but now that now now now
that I'm not in DC that that I guess
they don't really have a person to
attack uh anymore. Um,
>> well the rhetoric about you has calmed
down significantly.
>> Yeah,
>> it was disturbing. It was disturbing to
watch. It was like this is crazy.
>> And to watch these politicians engage in
it and all these people just like
framing you. It was this monster. I was
like this is so weird. Like this is what
happens when you uncover fraud.
>> Yes.
>> The whole machine turns on you. And if
it wasn't for a person like you who owns
a platform and has an enormous amount of
money, like could have destroyed you.
>> Yeah.
>> And that was the goal.
>> The goal was to destroy me. Absolutely.
>> Because you were getting in the way
>> of this amazing graft.
>> The the this gigantic fraud machine.
>> Yeah.
>> Um like I said, I think I think Doge
team has done a lot of good work. Um,
you know, and in in terms of uh fraud
and waste prevented, my guess is it's,
you know, probably on the order of two
or 30 hundred billion a year. So, it's
pretty good.
>> What do you think could have been done
if you just had like full reign and
total cooperation? How much do you think
you could have saved?
>> I mean, what level of of power are we
assuming here?
>> Godlike.
>> Oh, yeah. I probably cut the federal
budget in half
and get more done.
That is so crazy. It is so crazy that
it's get more done and federal
widespread. It's that widespread.
>> Well, I mean a whole bunch of government
departments simply shouldn't exist in my
opinion. Um they they um you know um
>> like examples
>> well the department of ed department of
education which was created recently
like under Jimmy Carter um uh the our
educational results have uh gone uh
downhill ever since it was created. So
if you if you create a department and
the result of creating that department
is a massive decline in educational
results and it's the department of
education, you're better off not having
it because we're literally we were did
better before there was one than after
when you let the states run it.
>> Yes.
>> Yeah.
>> Because at least the states can compete
with one another. Um so but the problem
is like you hear like cutting department
education. Our kids need education. like
yeah they do but but this is a new
department that didn't even exist um you
know until late the late '7s. Um and
ever since that department was created
the results education results have
declined
and so why would you have an institution
continue that has made education worse?
It doesn't make sense.
>> They killed it though, right?
>> No, they still unfortunately
>> but they were trying to kill it. it has
been substantially reduced.
>> Okay.
>> Um
>> what other organizations
what other departments?
>> Well, I mean I'm a small government guy.
So um you know when when the you know
when the country was created we just we
we just had the department of state,
department of war um you know and and uh
sort of the sort of the department of
justice. We had an attorney general uh
and treasury department. Um,
I don't know why you need more than
that.