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Did you think you were going to be able

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to get more done than you were?

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>> Um, we did get a lot done, >> right?

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>> Um, and Doge is still still still
happening, by the way. Um, this the the

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Doge is still underway. There are still

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there are still um there's still waste

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and fraud being being cut by by the Doge
team. So, it hasn't stopped. Um, the

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>> it's less publicized. >> It's
less publicized. Um, and they don't

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have like a clear
person to attack anymore.

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>> Well, it seems like once they basically

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they they applied immense pressure to me
to just to stop it. So then I'm like the

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best thing for me is to just, you know,
cut out of this. In any case, as a

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special government employee, I could
only be there for like 120 days anyway,

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something like that. So, whatever
the law says. So, I I could I I I was

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necessarily could only be there for 4
months uh as a special government

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employee. So, um

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um but uh yeah, I mean I mean you turn

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off the money spigot to to fraudsters,

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they get very upset to say the least. Um

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and um but my like my death threat level

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went uh ballistic, you know, was like a

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like a rocket going to orbit. Um

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yeah. Um, so but now that now now now
that I'm not in DC that that I guess

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they don't really have a person
to attack uh anymore. Um,

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>> well the rhetoric about you
has calmed down significantly.

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>> Yeah, >> it was disturbing.
It was disturbing to

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watch. It was like this is crazy.

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>> And to watch these politicians engage
in it and all these people just like

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framing you. It was this monster. I was
like this is so weird. Like this is what

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happens when you uncover fraud.

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>> Yes. >> The whole
machine turns on you. And if

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it wasn't for a person like you who owns

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a platform and has an enormous amount
of money, like could have destroyed you.

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>> Yeah. >> And that was the goal.

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>> The goal was to destroy me. Absolutely.

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>> Because you were getting
in the way >> of this amazing graft.

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>> The the this gigantic fraud machine.

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>> Yeah.

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>> Um like I said, I think I think Doge

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team has done a lot of good work. Um,

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you know, and in in terms of uh fraud

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and waste prevented, my guess is it's,
you know, probably on the order of two

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or 30 hundred billion a year.
So, it's pretty good.

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>> What do you think could have been
done if you just had like full reign and

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total cooperation? How much do
you think you could have saved?

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>> I mean, what level of of
power are we assuming here?

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>> Godlike. >> Oh, yeah.
I probably cut the federal

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budget in half

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and get more done.

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That is so crazy. It is so crazy that

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it's get more done and federal
widespread. It's that widespread.

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>> Well, I mean a whole
bunch of government

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departments simply shouldn't exist in my

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opinion. Um they they um you know um

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>> like examples >> well
the department of ed department of

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education which was created recently

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like under Jimmy Carter um uh the our

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educational results have uh gone uh

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downhill ever since it was created.
So if you if you create a department and

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the result of creating that department
is a massive decline in educational

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results and it's the department
of education, you're better off not having

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it because we're literally we were did
better before there was one than after

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when you let the states run it.

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>> Yes. >> Yeah. >> Because
at least the states can compete

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with one another. Um so but the problem
is like you hear like cutting department

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education. Our kids need education. like

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yeah they do but but this is a new

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department that didn't even exist um you

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know until late the late '7s. Um and

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ever since that department was created
the results education results have

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declined

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and so why would you have an institution

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continue that has made education worse?

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It doesn't make sense.
>> They killed it though, right?

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>> No, they still unfortunately >>
but they were trying to kill it. it has

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been substantially reduced. >> Okay.

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>> Um >> what other organizations

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what other departments?

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>> Well, I mean I'm
a small government guy.

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So um you know when when the you know

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when the country was created we just we

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we just had the department of state,

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department of war um you know and and uh

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sort of the sort of the department of

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justice. We had an attorney general uh

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and treasury department. Um,

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I don't know why you need more than that.