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Welcome to Huberman Lab Essentials, where
we revisit past episodes for the most

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potent and actionable science-based
tools for mental health, physical health,

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and performance. I'm Andrew Huberman,
and I'm a professor of neurobiology

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and ophthalmology at Stanford
School of Medicine.

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And now for my discussion with Dr.
Andy Galpin. Dr. Professor Andy Galpin.

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Super excited to have you here.
You're such an immense treasure trove

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of information on physical training
and optimizing for specific goals

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and outcomes. How should I or anyone else
for that matter think about their level

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of fitness in terms of really assessing
whether or not I'm as fit as I could be

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and should be both for sake
of health and performance?

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This is, I want to be big or want
to not be too big or I want to be lean.

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There is an aesthetic
component to almost everybody.

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They want to look a certain
way or not like a certain way.

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The other one is functionality.

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So I want to be able to perform
a certain way. Now, again,

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that definition differs per person.
So I want to be better at strength.

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I want to be better at mobility. I want to
be able to have energy throughout the day,

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whatever it is. So there's some sort of
appeal to aesthetic and there's some sort

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of appeal to functionality. So within
both of those categories, we want to...

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Be in a position where We can understand –

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Where do I need to go with my exercise
training so that I can be as fit and

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as healthy and – achieve
these goals that I want now.

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as well as be in a position where I can
maintain them for a long period of time.

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So this blends both immediate goals.
So say you're just interested in squatting

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a lot of weight.

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Say you're interested in running 5K time
the best you want. It doesn't matter.

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It blends that with the ability,
the desire to have a long wellness span.

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to be fit throughout life, to achieve
all those things for as long as possible.

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So then the question kind of comes
back to saying, how do I know –

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which area I need to focus on the most and
why am I not achieving these goals or how

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can I get there more effectively.

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And if we look at the big picture, we have
to understand that there are several major

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components

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to physical fitness that are going to be
required in all of these categories.

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And to achieve that, there are a handful
of components that have to happen.

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So what I'd love to do today is over
the course of our discussion is,

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hit exactly what those concepts are,
and then cover a whole bunch of different

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methods, and we could do that for hours,
but we'll cover a number of them for hours

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various goals. What are the major
adaptations that one can create in

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their body?

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using exercise the physiological
adaptations can be bucketed really in nine

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areas so the very first one is what i call
skill or technique this could be running

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more effectively this could be
practicing a skill like shooting a ball or

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an implement

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swinging a golf club, anything like that.
I call that skill development.

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The second one is speed. This is simply
moving at a higher velocity or with

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a better rate of acceleration.
That's very similar to the next one,

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which is power. And power is speed.

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Speed multiplied by force.
The next one then, of course,

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on top of that is force or strength.
Those are really synonymous terms, right?

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How effectively can you move something?
Now, this is often confused,

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strength rather, as muscular endurance.
So what I mean by that is,

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Strength truly is a marker of what's
the maximum thing you can move or it's

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the maximum amount of force
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Number five is muscle hypertrophy. And
this is the first time now we're talking

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about an appearance rather
than a functional outcome.

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This is the first one that's just
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and that's muscle
hypertrophy or muscle size.

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After that is muscular endurance. So this
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do of a movement. So think of

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how many push-ups in a row you can do,
how many sit-ups in a minute you can do,

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things that are typically in like
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and it is almost always local muscle.
A push-up test is really how many reps

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that your triceps and pecs
and deltoids can do.

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It is not a cardiovascular endurance. It
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It's specific to typically
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muscle groups at a time. This is why
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of every group there. After that,
now we've moved into number seven,

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which is what I call anaerobic capacity.
This is more synonymous with maximum heart

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rate. And now we're actually looking
at rather than a single movement,

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or muscle group, it is a total
physiological limitation.

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It is the maximum amount of work
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maybe even up to 120
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Think of your classic interval type
of stuff, So how much work can you do?

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at a maximum rate where you're going
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fatigue. The next past that
is maximal aerobic capacity.

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And this is probably something
like in the 8 to 15 minute range.

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where you're going to reach probably both
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max. So that is different from...

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the previous one where you can't
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It simply takes multiple minutes to get
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is actually going to be.

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sufficiently challenged are an indicator
there. And then the last one,

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number nine, is what I call long duration.

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And this is just your ability
to sustain submaximal work

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for a long period of time with no
breaks, no reductions whatsoever.

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This is often called
steady state training,

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or a lot of people just think of this when
they think of, quote-unquote, cardio.

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But your ability to continue movement
without any breaks or change or drop

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is the last and final
adaptation. So really,

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if you look at kind of a minimal
number there, it's generally 20 minutes.

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of what we're looking for, but a more
typical would be 20 to 60 minutes.

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But anything past that would still be...

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limited by your long duration endurance,
so your ability to sustain work over time.

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Can you walk us through the nine different
adaptations that you mentioned earlier

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and give us a way to assess our level
of adaptation in each of those nine?

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All right, the very first one we
want to talk about is movement skill.

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This is really about human movement
so that you stay injury-free.

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And you can continue to train
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So what are the minimum requirements?
Now, if you can have access...

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to a highly qualified physical
therapist or movement specialist.

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That's the best route. Go to them,
have them identify all of your movement

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patterns, overhead pressing,
squatting, running, all these things.

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That's your gold standard. If you want
to do it yourself, though, here's...

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A very simple four-step solution.

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So the way that I teach
this is I go joint by joint.

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And so I think of this just as the major
ones, your shoulder, your elbow,

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your low back, hip, knee and ankle.

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Okay, now what you can do is do
a representative movement for you.

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So if you bench a lot, use the bench.
If you do pull-ups, use the pull-up.

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If you squat, do that. I would
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an upper body pull,

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a lower body press and lower body pull.
An example would be a push-up.

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a pull-up or a bent row,
a squat, and then a deadlift,

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and record a frontal view and a side view.
Probably do three to ten repetitions.

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per angle. Okay. Slow and uncontrolled.
And you want to look for four key things.

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Number one is you want
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So symmetry is front
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and your right limb and your left limb.
If they aren't moving perfectly,

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that's fine. But you want to see, is one
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Is one turning to the side and one's not?
Is one fidgeting and...

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and twitching around differently.
So you want to look just to check...

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to see and make sure that
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you want to look for stability. So key
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can't control a squat, a controlled squat
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that would be an instability issue.
So can you do the movement slow?

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Can you pause at the bottom, maybe
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You should have complete control
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Are your hips sliding to one
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Is one elbow closer to your body when
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flared out? These are the things
I'm talking about, right?

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I'm not worried about what
angle they should be at or not.

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You're simply looking
for asymmetries or instabilities.

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All right, so again, as you're pushing up,

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does one elbow start flipping and
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The third one is what I call awareness.
There are a lot of movement technique

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issues that are simply people don't know.
And so you'll watch them squat.

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I do this in my classes all the time.
I'll have 100 kids out there squatting.

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and you'll see some
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And then when you just tell them, hey, did
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on the ground at all times when
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And they can correct it.
It's not actually a movement flaw.

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It was just simply an awareness.
I didn't know.

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and then I actually didn't realize
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So we want all of our joints to be going
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which is number four.
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Your knees should be able to go
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while maintaining good position,
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your three points of contact,
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and you're not compromising another joint.

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So that's all you're going
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Symmetry, stability, awareness,
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through each movement. You can
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in one or two repetitions
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I just look for absolutely terrible,

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like can't do it at all,

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minor flaw, or pretty close to good.

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But that's really all I'm looking for.

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So my scoring system is 0, 1, 3.

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Zero is like you're not
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because you're at a very high acute risk.

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You might get hurt on rep one tomorrow.

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Now your score of one is like,
there's a minor flaw here.

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We can probably do it, but we need
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The other one is maybe it's
perfect, maybe it's not.

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but go ahead and sort of do
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You'll be fine. So that's
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is a cost-free method of identifying
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within any of the things
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What about speed? I actually don't think
this is one most people should test.

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If you're a high-performance athlete,
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or we can do some different things
with a velocity transducer on a barbell.

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If you're a weightlifter or something,

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for most people, pure speed
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or acceleration or kind
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It's not just generally
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What about number three, power,

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which I believe before you
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The cost-free version here
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So this is stand,
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jump out as far in front
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and measure the distance
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and the back of your heel where it lands.

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A super basic number to look
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So you should be able
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If you're 5'5",
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That's going to ratchet down
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They just simply don't have
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so you're going to want
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But that's a very crude number.

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If you were to look at like
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if they're 6 feet tall, they're going
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We're not looking for optimization
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What you are looking for red flags if you
can jump your body height you going to be

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just fine To clarify there no running
approach here You going to stand at

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a still Yeah you can swing bounce as much
as you like to do You going to projectile

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off So you going to measure the distance
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stand behind the line and then
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possible score, not the best
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symmetrically. One's probably

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going to be a little bit farther. Just use
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and go from there. What about strength?
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You need to measure this in multiple

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areas. And we'll start off with grip
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grip dynamometer. Now, these are
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These actually used to be, like when I
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And now you can literally buy them

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on any website for $25.
So technically, that's not cost-free.

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I know your whole thing about the

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cost-free protocols, but $25,
I'm calling that basically cost-free.

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You can bring that in and

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test that and that's just a little device
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going to do

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and i would do your right hand and
your left hand they're going to give you

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a value in kilograms

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you want to look for something like a
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you're up past 60

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would be a really good spot to be in you
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than 10 variation

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between your left and right hand your
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that much weaker

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in this test so what you'll actually see
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stronger because the dominant hand is more
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that if If you are a male and you're under
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we're going to need to train that.

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but about 35 kilograms
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Another one that you can
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So you can hold on to any bar, ideally one
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your whole hand around it.

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Something like going to the gym
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rack.

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In general, we should be able to hang
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30 to kind of 50 seconds is my like good,
but we could probably get better here.

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If you're cruising above 60 seconds,
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Now, if you are exceptionally large,
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You know, if you're 240
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it's just hard to hang
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you're going to be able
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It's just not that much weight to carry.

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So just rough numbers to start off with.

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So that's grip strength.
What about strength elsewhere in the body?

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You can do an upper body
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although it's not technically
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One I'm generally more interested
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And the reason I like this
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A barbell back squat is,
look, that's my jam.

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That's my life, right?
It's just very technically demanding.

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And it's challenging. You need spotters.

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You need comfort. A lot goes into this.

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So for the average person, a leg
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You don't have to worry about technique.

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And people can just get into it and go.

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And so what you want to look for there
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can you do a leg extension
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That's a pretty good
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If you go up an age past age 40,
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and you'll still be in a pretty good slot.

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So if you're 50 years
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if you can do 160, you're
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And then you can just, again, take it
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Any of these strength tests,

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they don't have to be done
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So put on a load that you think is kind
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for as many reps as you can.

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As long as it under five reps total you
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that into any number of calculators
anywhere And it will tell you okay you did

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three repetitions at 200 pounds

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Your one rep max
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like absolutely going
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just get to a number that's fairly close
and do as many as you can and then go

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online. Again, one rep max
estimator equations are everywhere.

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If you get past five repetitions or so,
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going down. So don't put on something
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and then try to figure out
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It'll get close.

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You start moving past that, you're
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accuracy. If neither
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Another one I like a lot here is simply
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whether a kettlebell is great
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and you want to hold about
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go all the way to the bottom position
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So it's a pretty good indicator
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It's hard to be in a bad position
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as well as core strength
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It's more difficult than leg extension,
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and it's going to give you insight into
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So 45 seconds down
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and then returning to a standing position.

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I actually I'm not that worried but as
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without a technical

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breakdown in that 45 seconds that's
a really good spot as an intro I want

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a third of your body weight

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for 30 seconds it's important to add a
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stuff so there's

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two that I want to do number one these are
assuming you are technically proficient so

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to do any exercise to exhaustion or to
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with your

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technique. So adjust these accordingly.
If you're not comfortable with the front

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squat, do the leg

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extension. If you're not even comfortable
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utilize maximum testing if it's going to
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that's the most important flag. The second
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a huge effect on your actual results.
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especially if you're going to do a test

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and then a test again down the line,
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protocol is standardized.
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So the thing you want to pay attention
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of hypertrophy. That's entirely up to you.

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There is no rationale.

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You can decide what you feel like
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That's irrelevant.

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There is a sufficient rationale.

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you need to have where below
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regardless of your outcomes and so the
best way to do this is a couple of ways

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any sort of body composition test can
do this so whether this is a um a scan

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through like a dexa scan which is a gold
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impedance or other ways so there's a ton
of different tests you can get that are

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pretty close So what you want to pay
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is a number called FFMI. And so
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So you can look at, again,
any number of online calculators.

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These are all standard. So it doesn't
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You don't have to worry about...

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looking it up and whether or not
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And so that's going to actually tell
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And so a number you want to look for in
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your FFMI should be something like 20.

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or higher. If you're a woman,
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So those are the targets.
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that's a lot of muscle mass,
assuming you're reasonably lean. Now,

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if your FFMI is like 24, 25,

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but your body fat is like 40%,

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you're actually just a very, very large
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So when we say these sort of numbers, it's
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30% body fat for a man and sub 35
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There are online calculators. All you
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weight. your body fat percentage,
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You can enter those three numbers,
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and it'll correct for an adjusted value.
And most of those will actually tell you

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the grading rubric. And then it's
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But those are the numbers we look at.

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If you are, as a man... Sub-17

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As a woman, sub-15. Now we're in an area
of pretty severe physiological detriment

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for insufficient muscle.
What about muscular endurance?

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Is this where you're going
to tell me I need to do wall sits?

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So this is really nice. You can do any
number of tests here. A standard plank.

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Can you hold a front plank for 60 seconds?

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Can you hold a side plank for 45 seconds?
If you're able to do a push-up.

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We want to be able to do,
again, for a general male,

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we should have no problem
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consecutive push-ups.
This would be a full,

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complete lockout of the elbows on the top
and a full chest touch or close to it

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at the ground. You can do it different.
It doesn't really matter,

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but just keep it standard
from your pre-test,

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your post-test if you're trying
to mark progress. And for females?

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So for those folks, that's going
to scale down a little bit, right?

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So basically you're looking at 15
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where I want to see above 15.
And if I do, we're good.

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Anything between 5 to 15 is the number of

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we generally have some
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difference between 1 and 0, then

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Like now zero is a problem.
So we should be able to do that.

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The other way to assess muscular endurance
is take the exact strength test you did

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from the talk five minutes ago.
Which one did you do? Load that to 75%.

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And then do that for as many
repetitions as you can.

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And that is a tremendous barometer.

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of muscular endurance. So if you were able
to do 200 pounds on your leg extension

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test, put 75% on that and do
that as many reps as you can.

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You want to look for more
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If you are below eight repetitions,
then we have a muscular endurance problem.

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anaerobic capacity.
This one's more challenging.

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You either have to go to a laboratory
and do something like a windgate test.

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So this is a 30 second maximal test where
you're going to see how much work can you

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possibly do in that 30 seconds.

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If you don't have
a loudestestor laboratory,

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you can do this on any protocol
you want. This could be sprinting.

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This can be on an air bike.
This could be on a rower.

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Anything like that, anything where you can
exert maximal effort and you don't have

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to worry about technical.

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Problems. So I generally don't like
to do things like a kettlebell swing

440
00:23:53,658 --> 00:23:56,517
or something like that.
There's just too many other variables.

441
00:23:56,601 --> 00:23:59,081
You need to be able to go
as hard as you possibly can,

442
00:23:59,164 --> 00:24:01,814
knowing you're going to get
to a place of tremendous.

443
00:24:02,210 --> 00:24:05,630
fatigue. Now in the lab we
often use what's called a Bosco.

444
00:24:06,050 --> 00:24:08,682
protocol, and you're going
to stand on a force plate,

445
00:24:08,765 --> 00:24:12,011
and you're going to do as many
vertical jumps as fast as you can,

446
00:24:12,095 --> 00:24:15,648
as high as you can, for 60 seconds,
and you're absolutely destroyed by,

447
00:24:15,732 --> 00:24:16,857
like, second 45. Right?

448
00:24:16,940 --> 00:24:21,467
So we either use that Wingate Protocol
or that BOSCO Protocol. If you want,

449
00:24:21,551 --> 00:24:25,760
though, again, take any of those
other places – 30 seconds or so.

450
00:24:26,360 --> 00:24:28,864
up to 45 seconds, up to a minute if
you want. It doesn't really matter.

451
00:24:28,947 --> 00:24:31,617
We don't really have standards for these
things because it's going to be...

452
00:24:31,700 --> 00:24:37,121
different how far you can travel in 30
seconds on a treadmill is going to be so

453
00:24:37,205 --> 00:24:41,515
different than sprinting in the field
or on the assault bike or whatever.

454
00:24:41,599 --> 00:24:45,290
So what you really want to worry
about there is can you complete it?

455
00:24:45,710 --> 00:24:48,718
And then how awful do you feel afterwards?

456
00:24:48,802 --> 00:24:54,470
So what you really want to think about
here is not those protocols, but this.

457
00:24:55,220 --> 00:24:58,920
You want to think about can you
get close to your predicted goals?

458
00:24:59,120 --> 00:25:05,007
Maximum heart rate. So the number
we throw out is 220 minus your age.

459
00:25:05,090 --> 00:25:09,486
So if you're 50 years old, 220 minus 50,
you should be able to get to a maximum

460
00:25:09,569 --> 00:25:11,950
heart rate of around 170 beats per minute.

461
00:25:12,170 --> 00:25:14,590
Now, that number is extremely generic.

462
00:25:15,350 --> 00:25:18,703
If you don't get there, that doesn't
have any indication of your fitness.

463
00:25:18,786 --> 00:25:21,386
If you get higher, that doesn't
mean you're any more fit.

464
00:25:21,469 --> 00:25:24,775
It's just a rough number. So here's
what I want you to do. In this case,

465
00:25:24,858 --> 00:25:26,358
your heart rate recovery is...

466
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,980
is the better metric. So I want you
to get up to a maximum heart rate,

467
00:25:30,140 --> 00:25:34,233
and then test your heart rate recovery.
And what you should be looking for there

468
00:25:34,316 --> 00:25:38,513
is about half a beat recovery per second.
You're gonna get up to a place where you

469
00:25:38,596 --> 00:25:42,720
reach like absolute terrible exhaustion,
maximum fatigue, test your heart rate,

470
00:25:43,430 --> 00:25:47,450
And then count, right?
Have a timer going. Within 60 seconds...

471
00:25:47,900 --> 00:25:50,160
You should have, again,
that half a beat per second.

472
00:25:50,244 --> 00:25:52,910
You should have a heart rate
recovery of 30 beats per minute.

473
00:25:52,993 --> 00:25:54,117
Within the next minute...

474
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,591
So two-minute recovery,
it should be in half that, so 60 beats.

475
00:25:56,674 --> 00:25:59,997
Those are rough numbers to go by,
and your three-minute recovery is, again,

476
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,498
half of that again.
So that is the closest way.

477
00:26:02,582 --> 00:26:05,000
If your heart rate
recovery is worse than that,

478
00:26:05,083 --> 00:26:09,258
then we know we have a problem in your
anaerobic capacity or your cardiovascular

479
00:26:09,341 --> 00:26:11,110
capacity. What about number eight?

480
00:26:11,390 --> 00:26:14,935
maximal heart rate because what you just
described sounds a lot like maximal heart

481
00:26:15,019 --> 00:26:18,431
rate. So this is your VO2 max. So the gold
standard here is to actually go into

482
00:26:18,515 --> 00:26:19,348
a laboratory.

483
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,505
and get this thing done. So we can
actually run a VO2 max test where you put

484
00:26:23,589 --> 00:26:25,917
a mask on, collect all
your gases, and run new...

485
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,924
And there's a very specific protocol
for completion of a true maximum test,

486
00:26:30,007 --> 00:26:33,931
and any of the scientists will know that.
If you don't have access to that,

487
00:26:34,015 --> 00:26:36,900
you can do a couple of tests.
One of them is called...

488
00:26:37,310 --> 00:26:39,730
A 12-minute Cooper's test.
So this is simply time.

489
00:26:39,813 --> 00:26:42,383
You're going to run for 12
minutes as far as you can,

490
00:26:42,466 --> 00:26:45,337
and you're going to record
the distance you covered. Again,

491
00:26:45,420 --> 00:26:48,891
you can go online to any number
of calculators, enter that distance in,

492
00:26:48,974 --> 00:26:51,194
and that will tell you
your estimated VO2 max.

493
00:26:51,277 --> 00:26:53,630
So that's a 12-minute sprint?
12-minute sprint.

494
00:26:54,230 --> 00:26:56,697
Maximum distance you
can cover in 12 minutes.

495
00:26:56,780 --> 00:26:59,643
So that's anywhere between
a mile to two plus miles,

496
00:26:59,727 --> 00:27:03,780
depending on how fat you are. But you
just do that Cooper 12-minute test.

497
00:27:03,863 --> 00:27:05,450
If you want, you can do a...

498
00:27:05,570 --> 00:27:10,127
little gentler version of that. In fact,
there is a one-mile walk test you can do.

499
00:27:10,210 --> 00:27:14,711
In this case, you have to have some sort
of either a stopwatch or ideally a heart

500
00:27:14,794 --> 00:27:18,237
rate monitor. And all you have to do is,
this is a rock bar one mile walk.

501
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,865
So maximal tests, you're going
to walk a mile, record the time,

502
00:27:21,949 --> 00:27:26,646
record your heart rate at the end, enter
those in and those will give you estimates

503
00:27:26,730 --> 00:27:29,411
of your BC max.
So that's the like, oh, my gosh,

504
00:27:29,494 --> 00:27:34,137
I can't run for 12 minutes as hard as I
possibly can or I don't want to do it or.

505
00:27:34,220 --> 00:27:36,639
We have a lot of these in our
executive program. It's like,

506
00:27:36,722 --> 00:27:39,897
my knee hurts too bad. I've got back
pain when I run or whatever. Can I...

507
00:27:39,980 --> 00:27:43,552
Okay, and you did the walk test. And it's
pretty accurate if you do it correctly.

508
00:27:43,635 --> 00:27:45,357
And again, those are all standard...

509
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,693
calculations so anywhere you find those
you don't have to worry about the source

510
00:27:48,777 --> 00:27:51,863
so you just enter your stuff in and
they're going to be running off the same

511
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532
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Number nine, long duration,
steady state exercise. Yep.

533
00:29:15,661 --> 00:29:18,790
So you really want
to think about this as...

534
00:29:19,070 --> 00:29:23,376
Not a standard number. This is you should
maintain consistent work output for over

535
00:29:23,460 --> 00:29:27,605
20 plus minutes. And this one, I want
you to just pick something that it was in

536
00:29:27,689 --> 00:29:31,299
your lifestyle. So is there a loop
around your house that you can do?

537
00:29:31,382 --> 00:29:34,029
Is there some protocol
that you like to use it for?

538
00:29:34,113 --> 00:29:36,438
And you're simply going
to test your ability.

539
00:29:36,521 --> 00:29:40,239
Can you maintain work without stopping?
That's all it needs to be. Now,

540
00:29:40,322 --> 00:29:42,410
ideally, you're going to have to do it.

541
00:29:42,650 --> 00:29:44,733
I personally like to throw
a little twist in here, which is,

542
00:29:44,816 --> 00:29:47,404
can you do this with nasal breathing only?
That's when I feel really good.

543
00:29:47,487 --> 00:29:50,217
If you can go 30 straight minutes
without needing to take a break,

544
00:29:50,300 --> 00:29:53,680
Walking doesn't really cut it
unless you're very, very unfit.

545
00:29:53,930 --> 00:29:58,443
in which case if walking 30 minutes
without a break is a challenge, okay,

546
00:29:58,526 --> 00:29:59,917
I can't. there.

547
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,619
I want you moving at a non-walking pace.
I don't care what zone this is, two,

548
00:30:04,702 --> 00:30:09,443
three, four, five, I don't care. Show
me you can maintain minimum of 20 minutes

549
00:30:09,527 --> 00:30:12,580
of work with no breaks,
no intervals, no downtime.

550
00:30:13,260 --> 00:30:15,910
And again, ideally,
breathing through your nose only.

551
00:30:16,140 --> 00:30:19,531
How often should we be assessing our
fitness for each and every one of these?

552
00:30:19,614 --> 00:30:23,141
Well, the way that I would say this is I
would recommend doing this full battery

553
00:30:23,224 --> 00:30:26,074
once a year. Now, you could do
these technically all in two days.

554
00:30:26,157 --> 00:30:29,368
A three-day split here is probably best.
So if you were to just say, hey,

555
00:30:29,451 --> 00:30:33,203
this is like testing week. I actually love
this for beginning of the year or whenever

556
00:30:33,287 --> 00:30:36,227
it is that you sort of change
your training. Just like once a year,

557
00:30:36,310 --> 00:30:39,024
you should probably go to a
physician and get full blood work.

558
00:30:39,108 --> 00:30:42,724
You're going to be thinking, yeah, but I
don't want to like give up on my exercise

559
00:30:42,808 --> 00:30:43,708
routine that week.

560
00:30:46,140 --> 00:30:49,246
think, I didn't do very much work
this week. It's going to feel great.

561
00:30:49,330 --> 00:30:52,755
And then you're going to have a very
nice barometer of exactly where you need

562
00:30:52,838 --> 00:30:56,126
to change and prioritize your training
for the next quarter or half a year

563
00:30:56,210 --> 00:30:57,560
or wherever you want to go.

564
00:30:58,740 --> 00:31:02,536
Which order to do them in? The
non-fatiguing tests you can do whenever.

565
00:31:02,619 --> 00:31:06,470
The FFMI, the body fat composition,
all this stuff can be done wherever.

566
00:31:06,553 --> 00:31:08,520
I generally like to do that, though.

567
00:31:08,700 --> 00:31:13,440
as your very first activity. The reason
is we know that acute exercise is

568
00:31:13,830 --> 00:31:17,398
It can heavily influence things like
body composition measurements because

569
00:31:17,482 --> 00:31:21,395
of inflammation, water storage, etc. So
it's easiest to just sort of get that off

570
00:31:21,479 --> 00:31:25,293
of a 48-hour rest. You want to make sure
you don't do any hard exercise the day

571
00:31:25,377 --> 00:31:28,501
before a body composition test
and probably 48 hours before that.

572
00:31:28,584 --> 00:31:30,434
So just start yourself off with that.

573
00:31:31,140 --> 00:31:35,409
Your movement test can be the same thing.
You don't want to try to do an assessment

574
00:31:35,492 --> 00:31:36,960
of how well you're squatting

575
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,090
if you're incredibly sore
from your brutal squatting test.

576
00:31:40,173 --> 00:31:42,970
So tend to do those things
when you're the most fresh.

577
00:31:43,053 --> 00:31:46,657
Then what you want to do is any
skill or maximum strength or power –

578
00:31:46,740 --> 00:31:51,037
goes at the very beginning of the day,
Any fatiguing thing happens at the end.

579
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:55,417
And so you could easily do this.
All right, I'm going to...

580
00:31:55,500 --> 00:31:59,670
Do my power test, my broad jump. You're
not going to be fatigued at all from that.

581
00:31:59,754 --> 00:32:02,575
And on the same day, since
I'm already pretty warmed up,

582
00:32:02,659 --> 00:32:05,407
now I'm going to roll right
into my leg strength test.

583
00:32:05,490 --> 00:32:08,977
And since I'm really warmed up, I'm going
to do my leg muscular endurance test.

584
00:32:09,060 --> 00:32:11,718
Right there. So this is a very
common strategy we use.

585
00:32:11,802 --> 00:32:15,018
We do our one rep max leg extension,
five minutes, seven minutes,

586
00:32:15,102 --> 00:32:17,587
whatever we need to do,
come back, load it to 75%.

587
00:32:17,670 --> 00:32:19,020
Do as many reps as you can.

588
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,742
Boom. You could roll right into then your
upper body test or your grip strength test

589
00:32:22,825 --> 00:32:24,475
or anything else that
you want to do there.

590
00:32:24,558 --> 00:32:27,847
So you can knock out your strength
testing and muscular endurance testing.

591
00:32:27,930 --> 00:32:30,703
all in one day. You can do
your performance diagnostic,

592
00:32:30,787 --> 00:32:34,079
your power jump test, your strength,
and your muscular endurance,

593
00:32:34,162 --> 00:32:38,338
and all that stuff is knocked out. You're
going to have to come back on a separate

594
00:32:38,421 --> 00:32:41,070
day and do your anaerobic test.
This is 30 seconds.

595
00:32:41,550 --> 00:32:46,210
Max Monders things like that you could
though if you wanted Do that after.

596
00:32:46,710 --> 00:32:49,250
Your long duration test.
Your long duration test, again,

597
00:32:49,334 --> 00:32:51,499
is just going to function
as like a big warm-up.

598
00:32:51,582 --> 00:32:54,778
Or you could flip those things,
or you could do them on separate days.

599
00:32:54,862 --> 00:32:57,112
You're going to have
to do your VO2 max test.

600
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,603
on its own day for the most part,
unless you wanted to do, again,

601
00:33:00,686 --> 00:33:04,155
your movement or your body composition
sort of before those things.

602
00:33:04,238 --> 00:33:07,601
So you really have the ability
to kind of mix and match. Ideally,

603
00:33:07,684 --> 00:33:10,252
this most realistically
probably takes three days.

604
00:33:10,335 --> 00:33:12,880
You don't need to be
optimal in all these areas.

605
00:33:13,590 --> 00:33:16,301
to be quote unquote optimal
health from this perspective.

606
00:33:16,384 --> 00:33:19,830
You just want to make sure again,
there's no severe performance anchors.

607
00:33:19,913 --> 00:33:23,702
This is what we call them, right? We
don't want any of these severe constraints

608
00:33:23,785 --> 00:33:25,585
because you're going to get limited.

609
00:33:26,130 --> 00:33:31,267
Buy that thing. And so what you want to do
is move that up to just – sufficient.

610
00:33:31,350 --> 00:33:34,215
or concerning, right? And get it
away from that. If you do that,

611
00:33:34,298 --> 00:33:37,532
that thing's not going to catch you.
You're going to be able to continue

612
00:33:37,615 --> 00:33:41,217
to pursue optimization in any of the one
things that you have a specific passion

613
00:33:41,300 --> 00:33:45,457
for, which is generally what moves people,
right? You train so that you feel better.

614
00:33:45,540 --> 00:33:49,541
You train because... you know there
are all these benefits to it, and, geez,

615
00:33:49,624 --> 00:33:51,787
this audience probably
could list hundreds of,

616
00:33:51,870 --> 00:33:56,016
of them. But you also train because you
generally like to get better at something.

617
00:33:56,100 --> 00:34:00,091
A lot of us, like, have something. And so
you want to make sure that you're not

618
00:34:00,175 --> 00:34:02,361
going, hey, I know
you're good at endurance,

619
00:34:02,444 --> 00:34:06,436
but you really shouldn't train anymore.
We don't want that message. Not at all.

620
00:34:06,519 --> 00:34:10,057
I want you to love your training.
So before we close out, I want to go

621
00:34:10,140 --> 00:34:14,307
the metrics for VO2 max because I don't
actually think I gave you numbers on that.

622
00:34:14,390 --> 00:34:18,557
So in general, for men, a minimum number
we want to look at here is 35 milliliters

623
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,615
per kilogram per minute.
And for women, that'd be about 30.

624
00:34:21,698 --> 00:34:24,860
We can actually push a lot
higher on those things in reality.

625
00:34:25,230 --> 00:34:29,157
I want to see men above 50. And I'm not
even really stoked until I get above 55.

626
00:34:29,240 --> 00:34:33,050
In fact, if I want to see men above 55,
I really want to see women above 50.

627
00:34:33,810 --> 00:34:38,770
I want to add just one more metric to our
discussion today, which is really just...

628
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,960
my way of saying thank you
because if there were a metric for

629
00:34:43,380 --> 00:34:46,755
amount of useful information
per sentence spoke,

630
00:34:46,838 --> 00:34:50,141
you would be at the upper
level of that metric.

631
00:34:50,224 --> 00:34:55,976
You have this amazing ability to provide
so much knowledge in a clear and concise

632
00:34:56,059 --> 00:34:57,500
and today listed out

633
00:34:57,900 --> 00:35:02,097
format that is both interesting,
grounded in science, and actionable.

634
00:35:02,180 --> 00:35:06,378
So on behalf of everyone listening,
and certainly for myself as well,

635
00:35:06,461 --> 00:35:08,260
I just want to say thank you.

636
00:35:08,730 --> 00:35:12,511
Well, I appreciate the compliments,
and I'm looking forward to the next

637
00:35:12,594 --> 00:35:16,593
conversation, jumping right into speed,
strength, and hypertrophy training,

638
00:35:16,676 --> 00:35:21,030
and what are the evidence-based and best
practices for protocols in those areas.
